keepthefaith

WHAT DID THOSE FUCKERS DO TO THE OLSEN TWINS!!!!

Fuck.

V____Z

omg

dickface8

I always thought it was funny just because it was so wrong. And Saget is known for his edgy, tasteless comedy after Full House.

concernedaboutitall

The twins went and married men clearly old enough to be their fathers. I say that speaks volumes...

V____Z

Whoa. So true.

Tanngrisnir

When Bob Saget worked as host of America's Funniest Home Videos I once read there was no screening of the videos before he watched them. People would send in porn, child porn, snuff films and other stuff and Bob Saget had instant access to it all.

http://www.cracked.com/article_22775_5-weirdly-sexual-escapades-behind-scenes-kids-tv.html Also there is this. . .

FE_Rebekah

I found this video a while back. Remember in Full House the mom had apparently died, and that's why they lived with "Uncle" Jessie and Joey? Well check out the PizzaGate references in this "home movie" they watch of their mom on the show.

https://youtu.be/tHqKnlojL_g

Touchdown50

Holy crap

wincraft71

Alright I'm going to catch some flak for this because anytime I try to explain humor like with the "Pizza sluts" thing I get downvoated to shit. But Bob Saget, even though he was in Full House, has a very dark side to his comedy. Watch some of his recent standup or his "Aristocrats" joke on youtube and you'll understand. He'll pretty much say anything that's dark, morbid, and gets a reaction.

3141592653

I absolutely hated and will never forget his aristocrats joke. I see absolutely no value in it

Judgejewdy

All that proves is that he had a hardened conscience. Not really doing him any favors.

wincraft71

Right but comedians who do dark comedy will say terrible things about babies and children to push the envelope and make the audience shocked and uncomfortable.

He's not really guilty of anything besides breaking the boundary of what is considered to be appropriate.

eucalyptus_spearmint

I'm sorry people downvote just because you try to make a point. I wish we could agree just to downvoat shills and paid detractors.

carmencita

It definitely is a pile. This reeks of the Hanks and Kimmel vid. Ala Jon Benet.

cult_of_philanthropy

Here is a link to the original video that Pockets of the Future critiqued. Pleas note, I AM NOT DEFENDING PEDOPHILIA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRDhnoLIQTw

Although, Sagat and Stamos are quite touchy/feely with each other, I don't really agree with P.O.F assessment of it. The comments of dating a 9 yr old were Rickles jabs at Stamos for all the women Stamos dated. Stamos said, "why 9, that's inappropriate, can't it be like 20 or 22?" Sagat looked directly at the audience and said "dating a nine year old is wrong, that's wrong."

Admittedly, I haven't researched the show happenings on,"Full House"; but, I do agree that Hollywood is proving daily what a cesspool it truly is. Also, I commented on this because, for me, it's important to go directly to the source when possible.

3141592653

Stamos is open that he raped a girl

cult_of_philanthropy

Hmmm, I didn't know that, but I've also never followed his career. Do you have a link to any info on that?

3141592653

I should apologize and say he admits to allowing /facilitating the rape of a woman. He admits to being in a dark room with a woman and about to have sex, and secretly leaving the room and letting his friend come in and rape the girl, thinking it would be too dark for her to have any idea. Pretty sick

equineluvr

"Can someone explain why Bob Saget offered his new born to be "fingered" for a dollar? Then joked and said it should have been $5?"

He is Jewish.

As for Hollyweird (Saget is a TV actor, not film) it is 100% Jewish .

eucalyptus_spearmint

Is there some type of point you are making when you point out that he is jewish? Just curious because I seems to be a recurring theme on the pizzagate voat.

herbsmoke

Becajse jews have been practicing ritual abuse and pedophilia and satanism as commanded by the talmud since ancient babylon. They are the root of pizzagate, they are the satanists the politicians are owned by

eucalyptus_spearmint

Even if that is true, all Jewish people do not engage in these sick behaviors. So, to paint all of them with that brush is wrong, and detracts from what we are trying to do here. You're going to alienate good people with that kind of talk.

pby1000

The Talmud.

V____Z

Thanks to one person.... it isn't representative of us as a whole.

eucalyptus_spearmint

Noted....

AssFaceSandwich2

Thank you.

Eli3k

1/4 Jewish = 100% Jewish

Laskar

This YouTuber, Paul Romano, has done great videos on this theme.

Here are a couple of them:

Full House Gateway to Hell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erdgVYg-D4I

Fuller House More Satanic and Pedophilic Than the Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wghz3c6cs4U

I hope he does make a playlist of all of them--there are so many.

Everything we have seen on TV looks a lot different now.

Lonesome_Pizza

How can an atheist justify that pedophilia is objectively wrong, if we are just random stardust raping another form of random stardust?

mudbear

Its puts atheists in a difficult position since there is no objective standard to measure against, which means that morality needs to be created by the individual, but different individuals may create different structures. objective *Subjective morality is useless. There of course could be some objective morality that functions towards a goal, perhaps the perfection of the human race and human evolution, from an atheist point of view, and anything that goes against this would be immoral. In this case, strong family structures that produce healthy functioning humans would be the gold standard, but then genocide of the weak would also fit into that goal so... yeah...

eucalyptus_spearmint

Genocide of the weak does not fit in with the goal for the simple fact that we all are weak and strong at the same time--living paradoxes. Caring for the weak makes us strong . It makes us merciful, and better, as humans. We do not seek to create sickly, weak people, because that would be sick and evil of us to do, but when they occur accidentally, it is good and right to HELP and not destroy them. Goes back to that whole golden rule, karma, etc.

mudbear

Your bringing the golden rule and karma into an atheistic moral argument, it doesnt belong in there.

As for the concept, i guess controlled reproduction would be a better term than genocide (though realistically not much different). For instance removing the ability to have disabled children and sterilizing those with negative traits while forcefully breeding the strongest to create the next generation like what we do to cattle.

While i dont support this idea, this i think would suit an atheistic moral standpoint where objectively not all humans are equal, some are intrinsically more valuable than others and what is best for the species is to only breed the fittest and sterilize the weakest.

Again, this is only related to what a universal goal for morality could be for atheism, not what it is or what it should be, but i struggle to understand what other concept a soulless belief could come up with.

eucalyptus_spearmint

But who gets to say who is fit and who is not? This could devolve into 1984 type situations VERY easily. For example, why stop at sterilizing pedos? Why not keep people who are in prison for drugs from breeding? Sterilize murderers. Sterilize retarded people, autistic people. Sterilize those with "bad political views". Sterilize people when the population gets too high. When taxes are too high.

Sarcasm to prove a point. Thing is, don't ever plan on giving a government control over people's bodies if you don't want it taken to the nth degree. You might never be able to walk it back. People's bodies should be treated as sacred, even the bodies of people we hate.

And if golden rule, karma doesn't belong in an atheistic argument about morality, then what DOES belong in an atheistic argument about morality? What can you possibly say, then?

mudbear

Im not saying that its a good idea, thats the exact slippery slope that came to mind for me, i dont want that but evolutionary perfection seems to be the only objective moral standpoint i can consider for atheists as supremacy and survival of our species seems to be in the best interest of all humans, which is an objective moral goal for us all.

That is more or less what i think needs to be discussed, its a very good question: What does belong in an atheistic argument about morality? Pedophillia should always be considered wrong, but for something to always be morally wrong then you must be a moral absolutist, moral absolutism is much easier for theists who have a singular doctrine to follow, atheists dont have a moral pillar so to speak of other than what they determine themselves (not to say one is more moral than the other), there needs to be a good argument for moral absolutism for atheists if pedophillia is to be rejected. moral subjectivism is a mask for moral nihilism, be wary of anyone who pushes for it.

3141592653

Yes!

eucalyptus_spearmint

In Chrisianity, there is the assertion that non-believers have no excuse because everyone knows right from wrong. While you can debate the particulars to a degree, we all know it's wrong to hurt other people. Haven't you heard of the golden rule?

equineluvr

Oh puhleez. No particular religious group has a monopoly on virtues and morals.

mudbear

Not what he was saying. Theists have a blunt doctrine that explicitly states what is moral and what is not, the standard is set against their deity, whether right or wrong their moral point of view is objective and applies to all, whereas there is no central form of morality in atheism, morality is subjective, which means anything goes, if i believe raping kids is a OK, then who are you to say otherwise? (I dont btw). This is a philosophical problem that arises with atheism, and this is going to be the argument moving forward that will be pushed to normalize pedophillia, mark my words.

3141592653

I don't think there's a link between atheism and acceptance of pedophilia. Some of the worst offenders have been the Catholic church and other organized religious institutions

mudbear

It is important to understand why that is the case. My view on this is that priests dont become pedophiles but rather pedophiles become priests. Priests are highly trusted members of their communities with a lot of respect and authority, they also generally have access to children, this position would make a perfect cover for a child molester. Also there is a tradition in catholic comunities where if the parents suspected their child of any perversions they would force them to become priests, hoping that a religious lifestyle would cure them.

I wasnt trying to state that atheism supports pedophillia and that atheists are the ones promoting it, but rather moral subjectivists would, and atheism tends to support subjectivism more than objectivism which religions tend to support.

Not saying atheism or theism is better than the other, this is more an argument about subjectivism (morality is decided by me and only applies to me) and objectivism (morality is universal and applies to all), subjective morality allows pedophillia, while objective morality doesnt.

3141592653

I hear where you're coming from, for sure

eucalyptus_spearmint

Yeah. It's a fallacious argument in itself, but that doesn't mean people won't buy it, hook line and sinker. And they are already. :(

mudbear

Agreed, moral subjectivists can justify whatever they want and slither out of any moral responsibility, i consider it disgusting but to them they just dont care. The culture we live in in the west abhors responsibility, moral subjectivism therefore is extremely appealing to self interested thinkers. If a moral subjectivist culture becomes the majority, then it will be difficult to actually combat this.

Therefore, i think it is important to come up with an atheistic form of moral absolutism, its easy for theists, but atheists tend to be religiously opposed to anything theists support, including objective morality.

I guess the only real takeaway from what im trying to say is that atheists need to come up with an argument to oppose subjectivist morality to ensure they have a chance to combat pedophillia.

Lonesome_Pizza

What gives the atheist the justification to call anything good or bad, if we are just random stardust? If there is no God, then any evil act is permissible.

equineluvr

Some "atheists" know how harmful it is to hurt others and don't wish to be responsible for that. You can call it "karma" (though they do not) if you wish.

Furthermore, what difference does it really make at the end of the day when Christians and practitioners of other religions are committing some of the same sick acts? The murder victim of a Christian is not any LESS DEAD than the murder victim of an atheist.

eucalyptus_spearmint

Nobody with any sense in their brain would say it's ok for Christians to murder and not ok for atheists. If it's wrong, it's wrong. So, when say the Catholic Church was practicing widespread mass murder in the name of God during the Inquisition, that was wrong.

Anyone can do something wrong and lie and say they are doing it for the right reasons. That doesn't mean that all people within the same belief system are the same and it's silly to paint them all with the same brush. It's the same as saying all Muslims are terrorists, when it is obvious they are not.

BlowjaySimpson

And because you mistakenly believe in god, you are then justified in telling anyone else what to do? If I don't want evil acts done to me, I have a humanist obligation to not do them. Imaginary gods have nothing to do with that.

eucalyptus_spearmint

Not sure who you are to tell me that it's a mistake. I'll be the one to decide if my choice to place faith in God was a mistake, thankyouverymuch.

And I'm every bit as justified in telling someone what to do as you are with your "humanist" perspective.

BlowjaySimpson

I'll be the one to decide if my choice to place faith in God was a mistake? Wouldn't that be.... god who gets to decide that for you?

HollandDrive

Hollywood was already pushing boundaries in the very early films until they were stopped by legislation. Imagine where we'd be. I was shocked to see the burlesque stuff of Shirley Temple that was posted on here a little while back, but should have known. Art mimics life.

https://youtu.be/k1mhGDtWIHg?t=583

jokersmild

Right. Shirley Temple played a prostitute in her first two movies.