OP:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5j16vm/last_night_i_met_2_people_who_work_for_james/
"Last night I met 2 people who work for James Alefantis and learned that his basement is not in Comet Ping Pong, it's in Bucks Fishing and Camping, a restaurant he also owns, two doors down. There are 4 restaurants there: Comet Ping Pong, Little Red Fox, Bucks Fishing and Camping, and Besta Pizza.
There has been so much emphasis here on Comet Ping Pong, but there's no reason Buck's couldn't be just as suspect.
Also learned that the bands that play at Comet do not get paid, not even in food and drink. They do it for the exposure.
Edit: Funny thing is that these people were NOT together and didn't seem to know each other. Both at the same party though.
Evidently "Ping Pong" can refer to either "quick, promiscuous sex" or "gay sex." Since Comet Ping Pong is a pretty strange name for a restaurant, it occurred to me that it could be read as "Come at ping pong."
Edit 2: There is much more I could say, but not without potentially doxxing myself. Just passing this on, take it for what it's worth.
Edit 3: The main image on Buck's website is indeed disturbing. Also, only open 4.5 hours a day, in an area where real estate is very pricey.
Edit 4: I'm not on Voat and it's currently invite only.
Re. Little Red Fox, it's an allusion to the fairy tale "Little Red Riding Hood" about a girl who is hunted and then eaten by the big, bad wolf.
And a "fox" is a term for a sexy woman, at least it used to be.
Before anyone chimes in to say that "this proves nothing!" I'm not saying it does. Just speculating about possible meanings."
▼ comeonpeople
100% false. Every band that plays there gets paid AND gets food and drinks.
▼ pizzagate3456
Here's an article about that place: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/tom-sietsema/2013/10/13/0c787c80-2d3a-11e3-97a3-ff2758228523_story.html?utm_term=.d965d5634d97 Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, White House Social Secretary Jeremy Bernard are notable attendees
▼ pizzagate3456
OMG THE SIMPSONS PREDICTED THIS: https://herasblogcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/pizzagate-simpsons.jpg "The kidnapping was at our other location"
▼ blablah
yea I've seen that too. Thanks for bringing it up again :)
▼ neverobey
but I always wonder why we keep forgetting about the Pegasus museum and Alefantis death threads because of the mention of Pegasus.
▼ neverobey
For what it's worth:
give every letter a number starting with A = 1 to Z = 26
this would make fox 666
or do it with the numerological system from 1 to 9. Then you get this .
▼ blablah
so foxes are also satanic? :D
▼ neverobey
not from my point of view. Just trying to fit the narrative we know so far. :)
▼ Chronik
Personally I think wherever the basement is/was it won't be there in "that state" anymore. A guy with his connections got that covered already.
▼ blablah
I'm also pretty sure they removed everything. ....but it could also be, that they think they're untouchable and just continue. So f private investigators looking into it, there will be something maybe.
▼ kazza64
if you feel like sharing more information please feel free.... we are all ears at this point
▼ KnightsofHubris
This is not unusual on the very small scale DIY scene that Comet is part of, but I would be genuinely surprised if this is true of all bands at Comet. There's have a main stage and small stage there. The main room is the ping pong room and they put them away when they have a show. For smaller shows, they use the back room, and I would bet those folks don't get paid because often that is experimental music. But they have bands at Comet from out of town and I would be surprised if a band that is well known enough to tour isn't getting paid when they play Comet.
Having a place to play in front of an audience is real important/valuable to a band just starting out. I also suspect they also have a lot of bands where everybody has day jobs and they only do a show every few months. In those cases, you play out just to play in front of your friends.
▼ KnightsofHubris
Because Alefantis is not the person who made up the fantasy of all the nefarious stuff going on in the basement of Comet Ping Pong. He's responding to a specific false allegation.
▼ KnightsofHubris
Yes. and it was a complete leap to think the buildings are connected. There was a party at Comet and they first wanted you to go to Bucks to sign in. Comet and Ping Pong are not next to each other, so unless this passageway also includes another business, most likely the people were walking to Comet on the street or through the alleyway like you normally would. The flyer just basically said something like first sign in at Bucks. It didn't say "access" was through Buck's
▼ FuckUredditFuckuSpez
No you stupid fuck. It literally did say access was through bucks. You're a shill or a retard. Probably both, based on your history. Every comment you make is incorrect, misleading, or retarded.
▼ pby1000
Is it possible to hear kids screaming from the street level if they are being held in the basement of Bucks Fishing and Camping?
▼ V____Z
I think Jimmy chose it because it's got satanic symbols on it - the moon and 4 upside down pentagrams.
▼ Chatman
I have heard almost nothing of this little red fox, is it ja's property too?
▼ reasonedandinformed
All along, I have thought CPP is the transactional front for the activity...the reason the computer (allegedly damaged by the magic bullet fired by the gunman who initially was reported not to fire his gun) had to be removed. There had been a finding of child porn on the computer, which was sent to authorities who apparently did not act upon it. There was analysis of the Comet logo where it drew the same conclusion (based upon the placement of the logo and the word "come" within it), within a larger image with three men and a child I believe. I could not find the image. JA tried to misdirect, as did the strawman articles by the LSM, by focusing on a false claim that we had tied the activities to a supposed basement at CPP. That was never the case, and Buck's has always been something requiring a deeper look. Look at this post for a good analysis of the Buck's picture you referenced: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466453
▼ KnightsofHubris
Sounds so reasonable........Except why not quietly remove the computer? How hard is that? Buy a new computer and walk out the back door and put in the trunk of your car. It's a completely ridiculous theory that something had to be staged to get rid of incriminating evidence. You could, you know, just get rid of the evidence. It would be the simplest thing in the world.
Also they has been no finding of anything on that computer.
Transactional Front? You've been watching spy movies haven't you. Why would the transactions have to happen at Comet? An envelope left on the dresser not stealthy enough?
▼ formatist
Are there tunnels between?
▼ blablah
there is a huge tunnes network in thata area
▼ srayzie
It was posted on voat a couple of months ago. But, Ping Pong also refers to having one penis in the mouth and one penis in the butt and bouncing the middle person back and forth. It's horrible thinking that would happen to an innocent child. ☹️
▼ pby1000
There is also the ping pong scene in the movie Lolita:
https://youtu.be/Bhbk23rqKsY
▼ blablah
...no... just no. please.
▼ Laskar
"come at ping pong" --it gets sicker by the minute.
Great post, thanks.
▼ 44NJ9
The Comet part of the name was there from the previous business, AJ added ping pong.
▼ blablah
you're not on voat? ...u are currently logged in as Nana66 ? ...I don't get your point.
▼ Nana66
YOU, said it in your post.
▼ blablah
aaah now i got it... look i C&P the posting from reddit, I posted the "OP"-Link at the top of the posting. So nothing to worry about.
▼ DarkMath
"bands that play at Comet do not get paid........They do it for the exposure."
Correct. Although I'd call it by its other name: Narcissistic Personality Disorder
The only question I still have is whether they do any Huey Lewis covers.
;-)
▼ blablah
invite only? ...sorry you must be wrong. I am able to browse all the links.
▼ ProudTruther
Here' JA talking about storing the tomatoes in the basement of bucks fishing and camping. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1459694
▼ hypercat
WHy are their drinks in hkd?
▼ ArthurEdens
Nice post!!!
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▼ V____Z
Thank you for bringing this up. In my opinion, we are nowhere near finished talking about our early finds in this investigation, though most seem to want to turn this sub into a discussion of low level busts, the latest Alex Jones newz, and weird, random, meaningless stories about stuff like an abusive grandmother dressed as a witch.
▼ blablah
I totally agree with ou. we may should collect all the important data and make a full report. I already digged a lot, but also forgot a lot already. to keep an order we should think about building a database.
▼ uuuuuuuuuus
Do not forget to include this in the full summary regarding Buck's.. preface with the observation that it's a very weird name for a restaurant. I'd like to hear the explanation he comes up with.. as far as I know, there's no Jay-Z songs that mention it, /s.
Someone may have summarized it better and more comprehensively, but this is just what I know - haven't looked into it that deeply. Pretty solid proof nonetheless. A ton of pertinent information like this gets lost in the fog, and it doesn't seem that there is a dedicated team compiling all of it into an easily digestible format. This is very important if any of this is to gain traction among the masses.. we know they're dumbed down and brainwashed, and will not take the time to research themselves. Pull them out of the dark ages.
P.S. a similar tidbit that I haven't seen brought up much, which means many on here probably aren't aware of it.. the chicken lovers infographic has made its rounds, but it doesn't include this important proof for skeptics:
▼ DarkMath
" forgot a lot already"
Forgive me blablah but I gotta ask, aren't you forgetting something rather important about said basement?
@V____Z
▼ blablah
No I know about the basement. I can remember there is also an interview of a guy stating that JA has a basement. But I can't remember where it was. If you're searching the whole day u get confused some times ;)
▼ DarkMath
Keep searching and/or lay off the weed.
;-)
▼ blablah
I'll keep searching, no weed here :D
▼ YingYangMom
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1459694 http://archive.is/MVff1
http://archive.is/6opBr
http://archive.is/zRk7w
▼ V____Z
From the alley it is apparent, comet doesn't have a basement but the other stores do. He owns or is friendly with them all. There is nothing confusing about the idea that there is a tunnel system, the block is on top of it, and owned mostly by the CIA, and that comet can access those tunnels through a basement accessed somehow - there is a door across from the bar, hidden into the wall, there is the back alley, where they can take a short walk to get to the basements, which are likely all connected to the tunnels.
Do I have this right or no?
▼ blablah
I also have that info. It needs to be investigated immediately with UV light so detect blood or other body liquids. I'm pissed that intel isn't doing anything because most of them seem to be involved.
▼ V____Z
You're pissed.. JOIN THE CLUB
▼ mooteensy
If there's not a member fee, I'd love to join
▼ V____Z
You already have :)
▼ kestrel9
Regarding your comment (good one btw) that "Ping Pong" = gay sex, one could make a case that depictions of pizza are also used to denote gay sex (a.k.a. the Instagram pics with pizza slices covering naked man's penis, and the pic with the male BJ threesome).
▼ pby1000
There is also the ping pong scene in the movie Lolita.
https://youtu.be/Bhbk23rqKsY
▼ Yuke
Again, this is old news.
▼ Scirel
Yeah, we had pretty much figured this out, but it's always good to have extra verification.
▼ mooteensy
It's called confirmation. Any legitimate investigation appreciates this type of information.
▼ sensitive
See also https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1530683
▼ blablah
oh I should really search better next time. ...so it seems there is a lot of data, if not evidence, against JA, what can be done now?
▼ V____Z
Exposure, here and on social media. Look at what he says to stay away from, and go there (not physically). For instance, we never finished the investigation into Pegasus and the lookout tower, the "kids" spray painted nearby, the playground...
Maybe we can take what we've learned from pedogate as a whole, and see how it fits with the early info we gathered. My two cents...
▼ DonKeyhote
Wasn't it you who I just told yesterday we need anons with balls? I guess I took up the available supply of balls
▼ Laskar
Exposure is the key.
▼ V____Z
Since it's what they hate the most, then i think we can assume that. Plus, it's possible our time is limited, the screws are tightening. They're crushing youtubers by taking away their revenue, they're censoring us everywhere, so while we are still able, we should be screaming from the proverbial rooftops!
▼ blablah
please investigate that. I can't because I live in europe & I can help in europe if investigation needed!
▼ V____Z
All of the prior investigation done on Pegasus was done via internet (Google Earth, especially). I believe one guy did walk through the alley but that gained us nothing. All leads came from piecing together info gleaned from Instagram & Google Earth. For instance: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1545472/7540038