YingYangMom

Excellent Post. Thank you for this :)

AngB23

So that means the doctors that examined the kids and found evidence of sexual abuse on both children are lying too. Um, ok. And Aaron Dover who was just murdered and came out and talked about abuse at same place was a liar as well.

Yep, nothing to see at Hamstead...clean as a whistle.

DerivaUK

An excellent paper. Thanks for bringing it forth. Regarding his comments on retraction, the Hampstead Children were removed into "care" for the period between disclosure and retraction. During this time the fear of the overriding consequences of their disclosure would have set in; familial fragmentation and maternal/paternal abandonment will have played its part here, I feel. I have also seen many times and the mother also states that clinical examination did in fact reveal evidence of abuse.

norobotono

She is still with the evil fucker Abraham Christie, who is the one that physically and mentally tortured the kids in Morocco and made them say those things.

They are now happily promoting hemp while still on the run, and not giving two shits about the children except as an afterthought..

snefru

Why are there no victims? There are many victims. The no victim meme is getting ridiculous. Victims have written books, made films, testified in court, gone on television, started organizations. Why are the victims silent? They're not. They have been speaking out for a long time. The mainstream media used to even cover some of this material back before virtuous pedophiles somehow became "mainstream" while non-pedophiles were turned into bigoted fringe "conspiratards." Ultimately the advertisers will probably have to decide whether they want to promote pedophila and have their products associated with child molestation. The media has already made its choice.

Narcissism

There is definitely an accomodation on the part of the child victim. I asked the question in a Sociopathic/ Narcissistic forum "Why did you allow yourself to be abused as a child" Almost no one wanted to engaging in the discussion and the only one who did said "Fear".

AngB23

Maybe I'm miss reading this but if the way I read/understood your question, I can see why no one answered. "why did you allow yourself to be abused as a child?!?!" Do you honestly think a CHILD can prevent abuse from an adult?

Narcissism

YES, and perhaps thats the way forward. Stop accommodating the abuse.

AngB23

I'm speechless. You are clueless. That's like asking a 5 year old that gets beat by an adult, why didn't you beat them back. They are CHILDREN. They are smaller and defenseless against predators. You can't be this dumb, right? Blaming the victim is pretty pathetic

Narcissism

Even a 5 year old can drug or poison an adult or vandalize their property. Push back is the name of the game here..

AngB23

Ya, makes total sense..... for a fucking Dumbass. Pizzagate isn't a forum for you.

Narcissism

You come up with a better plan and I am all ears - so far nothings working, perhaps it time to adopt a new strategy?

Vindicator

Nice contribution, Tyranny. I notice the shills got riled about this post. :-)

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pby1000

Get a load of this:

http://operationhydrant.com/

shizzle_mcbobblehead

Little of both lol...

pby1000

shizzle_mcbobblehead

Probably dead...

pby1000

Yes, I am going through those to see what they are of. There is just a lot of information to process here.

I just sent you another message with links to the news articles I mentioned. I cannot link all the news articles because it would take too much time. I linked a few, then gave you some search terms to use. You will then see all of the articles I saw.

pby1000

OK...

It looks like both articles both go back to the same website:

http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2015/02/satanic-child-abuse-in-hampstead.html

One article (1972) mentions David Farrant:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highgate_Vampire

Search '"david farrant" hampstead' for more articles.

The other article (1983) mentions a missing mother and her child. Rita Cabbidu and her daughter Marion Cabbidu.

Search "Rita Cabbidu" for more articles.

shizzle_mcbobblehead

Those kids weren't being "tortured" in any way by the people they were with. They were too comfortable.

Obvious anxiety when telling their story, but not consistent with anyone forcing a narrative (they looked at each other more than they did the camera.)

A few obvious embellishments but kids their age generally don't like to admit when they don't know something, so they fill in the gaps.

All in all that video was two kids telling a truthful,story to the best of their ability.

pby1000

Do you see the newspapers? I did not link directly to them, but they are there. One is dated in 1972, and the other is dated in 1983.

There is an information overload... I can't process it fast enough.

http://hampsteadchristchurch.com/

YingYangMom

This 6 hour member troll is messing with you...

pby1000

Ah, I see.

Anyways, interesting links. These people are pretty fucking sick, it strikes me as being very similar to the McMartin preschool case.

YingYangMom

It's worst. I've viewed the 5 hour video and listened to their entire accounts and, let me tell you, they have been through hell. Those poor kids never stood a chance. Plus, the mother has been harassed and had no other choice but to leave England and go into hiding. She's fighting for her kids from abroad, sending requests and all. Also, their Russian maternal grandparents are fighting alongside her for full custody, but so far, no luck. I don't know if they ever will be in safe hands again. I couldn't imagine a worst fate than theirs...

I've researched and posted a thread on the Hampstead kids, if you want to know more here:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1638650

pby1000

I am looking through the link you sent me. It looks like it is a lot of really good information.

Have you seen this video? I just want to make sure you are aware of it. He starts to talk about child sacrifice at about the 20 minute mark, but I recommend watching the whole thing so it is in its proper context.

https://vimeo.com/212237317

YingYangMom

Yes! I have, thanks. It is awesome. I have watched it twice, the entire thing. I even did a transcript of the video About 4 minutes of it and posted it in the comment section of the Voat thread :)

pby1000

OK! I just want to make sure you have seen it.

pby1000

I will look. Thanks!

Piscina

Thank you for posting this. It gives an insight into the issues faced by the victims.

carmencita

This analogy sure makes a lot of sense. When a child trusts in their caretaker, that being a parent, teacher, grand father, etc. and that trust is seriously broken by something as serious as sexual abuse, the pain is compounded by being broken a second time when they deny it. Also when the other parent stands with the abuser.. People do not realize how much a child loves their parent. Their heart and spirit is completely broken and yes that can cause anger. You are so right. I have also heard that the child many times gives in to more abuse in order to please the parent. This is so very sad.

shizzle_mcbobblehead

What the hell kind of question is that?

shizzle_mcbobblehead

Yeah, you could. You can't just call people morons without a cohesive argument.

shizzle_mcbobblehead

I'm sorry?

shizzle_mcbobblehead

Virtually no child is prepared for the possibility of molestation by a trusted adult; that possibility is a well kept secret even among adults. The child is, therefore, entirely dependent on the intruder for whatever reality is assigned to the experience…The secrecy is both the source of fear and the promise of safety

This...

This can't be stressed enough when evaluating a child in any abuse situation.

sugarskull

Also the things that one describes as a young child CAN ONLY be described by someone that experienced it first hand! Children discussing sexual things or things about murder and such are things that a young mind cannot possibly make up. Believe the children!

pby1000

There are newspaper articles going back to at least the 70's and 80's regarding similar accusations by children in Hampstead.

sugarskull

True..I read that Chris guys SRA cult members list on the wayback machine last night and not only was Hampstead mentioned there there were some truly eyebrow raising names on the list as well! England is chock full of abusers and cult rituals. Its truly scary!

pby1000

Which one? Do you have a link? Sorry, but I have information overload. Lol. I am trying to follow several topics at once.

sugarskull

pby1000

Thank you.

sugarskull

no problem, anytime!

DerivaUK

There are some strange things go on in Hampstead. Regularly. I lived there for a while.

pby1000

I get that feeling. Do you have more information?

It seems similar to the McMartin preschool case in the US. They were doing the same things.