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carmencita

This is a great idea. I am already doing this. I don't eat pizza unless I go to a party and there is nothing there to eat. Even now, I have turned it down. I have hated pizza for years. It is so disgusting now the way they make it, we never know what kind of meat they use, and there is so much cheese you nearly gag. Now that I associate it with this cause, I can't even look at it in the grocery store. Yuck.

Pizzalawyer

Moderators...where are you?

sensitive

Here now :-) In such cases, better ping a moderator or send a mail to mods.

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palmitespo910

I haven't eaten pizza in months already though. I'm not gonna stop eating meat. Good thought, however.

ProbablyHoly

I don't mean going out to hunt or fish. I mean the death factories.

palmitespo910

Oh shit i'm with you on that. The "farm factory" shit really does concern me. I read somewhere that the US would run out of food very quickly if those farm factories were shut down. I don't know how true it is, but I definitely can see it being truth.

ProbablyHoly

If you don't stop eating meat, you are allowing sentient beings to suffer in agony since birth.

Why does that not concern you?

palmitespo910

Because I don't know any of them and I have no proof that they exist.

ProbablyHoly

You failed the empathy test. You will not graduate this time.

palmitespo910

It's alright. I am pretty empathetic toward people I can relate to. I cannot relate to sentient beings. I'm sure they understand, since they're so much more woke than I am.

ProbablyHoly

How do you know if they are so much more awoken, if you cannot relate to them?

That premise is a relationship.

palmitespo910

The saddest part of this is realizing that I was not understanding sentient correctly. I am stupid.

So, back to the beginning shall we?

I need to eat. And, luckily for me, they are available for me to eat. If I stop eating meat today, it will not stop the slaughter of thousands more today. That said, I can't justify quitting eating meat. I like it too much.

ProbablyHoly

You're not stupid.

Maybe the evil ones of the one wont consider morality because they like what they are doing too much? Do you see the problem with lax moral reasoning?

palmitespo910

I know that you don't see it as different, and I respect that. In fact, for lack of a better word, I kind of envy that. And like I said in my other reply, I didn't know that you were talking about factory farmed meats. That, I probably would be willing to give up. For example, I live in a rural community so I could buy meat straight from the farmers. It would keep money in my county anyway.

To be fair, though, I am absolutely for an Extra Terrestrial race completely wiping humans from the planet. As I would consider them to be my superior beings, provided they are able to get here.

ProbablyHoly

Oh we've always been here, encoded in the DNA.

palmitespo910

I also choose to often entertain the notion that we ourselves are the extra terrestrials.

ProbablyHoly

Well, some people see the whole of creation as a staircase which has inevitable plateaus of development.

Veganism changes us on the molecular level. The pathogenic flesh eating bacterias, remove themselves from us. Think of that as a microcosm of the universe.

carmencita

This was a really good discussion to bad it was deleted. I figured it would be. I am working on giving up meat. I did for about a year and have fallen off the wagon, but only eat it about 3 times a week. But I only buy organic and not from those big factory farms. I try to do the best I can. Keep it up. You are doing the right thing. Right now, we need to get people to just eat less of it, maybe cutting all out is just too much for most. We need to do it incrementally.

ProbablyHoly

I feel stressed and dull when I eat meat.

carmencita

Yes! Exactly. I must admit I felt a lot better then. I am probably going to try it again this summer.

ProbablyHoly

I'll do it with you.