pby1000

It was all a distraction. I do not recall the word "Luciferian" being mentioned. It was all about Satanism instead, which is not the problem.

jstrotha0975

Satanic ritual abuse is not a problem?

pby1000

Just to be clear, let me explain. We are seeing the terminology different.

It was called "Satanic ritual abuse", but it should have been called "Luciferian ritual abuse" instead.

They called it Satanic to distract people away from the Luciferians.

The Luciferians are the ones in control of the world, but they do not want people to realize that. It is the Luciferians that sacrifice people, they sacrifice babies, and sometimes eat them (i.e. the pineal gland) and drink the blood. They also like to fuck little kids, too. The Luciferians have the power to start wars so that masses of people are killed.

Satanists like to wear mascara, and they refuse to clean their room when told by their parents.

Is this more clear?

Church of Satan:

https://youtu.be/0LvnlcbdngE

jstrotha0975

Why are you trying to protect them? They're both the same to me and need to be eradicated. Jesus will return to judge the living and the dead. John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

pby1000

I am not trying to protect them. It is important to know who and what we are dealing with. The Satanists and Luciferians are not the same. That is my point. They are not the same groups. If you go after the Satanists, then nothing will change.

It is the Luciferians! Do you understand?

Look at the wiki article on the Luciferians.

jstrotha0975

I did look at the difference. I view them as different branches on the same tree. Illuminati is the tree and the branches are Freemasons, Atheists, Globalist/Socialists, Wicca/witches/pagans, satanist/Luciferian (same split branch). Socialists split into other branches like Marxism and Communism and so forth. Globalists split into Politicians, Media, Banks, Corporations, etc...

pby1000

OK. Fair enough.

I believe the media played up the "Satanic" connection instead of the "Luciferian" connection to distract us. If you watch the old talk show videos from the late 80's to early 90's, I do not recall hearing any mention of the Luciferians. They only mention the Satanists, which makes me very suspicious. It is like they were trying to point people in the wrong direction.

That is all I am trying to say.

I still think the real threat is the Lucifierians. These are the extremely wealthy and powerful people who absolutely hate humanity, and want to reduce the world's population to about 500 million. They are the Globalists who want the New World Order.

I am glad you mentioned the Illuminati and Freemasons... I read the the Great Architect worshipped by Freemasonry is Lucifer.

jstrotha0975

Yes, most of the people in the branches are Satanic, Luciferian, Mocloch/owl, Weeping Spiders worshipers. The other religions are training academies leading up to those major religions of Luciferian, Moloch, Spiders. And Scientology, Morman, Satanism, Pagan, Wiccan, cults are all recruiting academies. I view a breakthrough in any branch as significant because it could lead to a breakthrough in multiple branches. But I also believe in cutting the head off of the snake. Take out the higher ups.

pby1000

There are some comments here from kazza64 regarding the differences between the Luciferians and Satanists. I thought you might want to check it out.

pby1000

OK. I understand you better now. My fear is that people will not go after the real cause of their problems. It is the mistake of Hitler. He went after the Jews, but most of them are poor and could care less about world affairs.

Hitler should have went after the bankers, the Luciferians, Freemasons, Illuminati. His place in history would be much different today if he had. Hitler had captured one of the Rothchilds, but he gave him back for ransom. This was a huge, huge mistake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Nathaniel_de_Rothschild

Are we to make the same mistakes?

I like your idea about rolling them up, as long as we roll them up to the very top of the pyramid.

jstrotha0975

Hitler did kick out the Illuminati. Hitler Created his own religion to rebel against them. He wanted to lead them. The NAZI party originated from the German Satanic party. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2164567/posts The Nazi's joined with the occult Thule society. Hitler kicked the Illuminati out because he wanted to rule the darkness. It's the example of why evil never wins, they destroy themselves.

pby1000

He kicked them out, but he did not capture or kill them. Compare this to his treatment of the Jews. That is what I am saying.

kazza64

yes the dutch banker that went public recently said as much as this. it is the luciferians in charge and the satanists party with the naked women and drugs and alcohol. he bowed out when he was asked to sacrifice children no doubt by the top dog luciferians who were willing to usher him in to their secret world

pby1000

I did some reading and the Satanists and Luciferians appear to be different groups.

kazza64

i think the luciferians are more comprised of the elite and they are very hard core and very low key.

pby1000

That is what I am thinking, too. When someone says "Satanist", I always think of a rowdy goth teenager who refuses to clean his or her room.

kazza64

the dutch banker said he went to satanists parties where there were naked women and drugs and alcohol. i think at the luciferians parties there are people being sacrificed

pby1000

So, let me ask you this. Do you think that people say "satanist" when they really should be saying "luciferian"? I mean, I did not know about the luciferians until about six months ago.

Has the propaganda been so strong that it has people convinced they are satanists instead of luciferians?

I hope I am clear about my question.

kazza64

yes it is very confusing. i agree. the dutch banker recently differentiated them. the satanists had the wild parties. the luciferians run the world and asked him to sacrifice children. i think satanists are deliberately made to be more mainstream and part of pop culture so it is seen to be ' acceptable ' luciferians are the elite being very well organised and very private because the things they do are hardcore like sacrificing babies and cutting them up and eating them. but then you have the military practicing satanic ritual abuse on children in mind control experiments and generations of satanists meeting together to also make sacrifices. i'm going to do more research on it but so far victims seem to really fear the luciferians more. maybe they have more power because they are comprised more of the rich and powerful.

pby1000

OK. I will keep all of this in mind. I am also trying to figure it out.

I see a lot of people posting about the Satanists, but people are starting to post more about the Luciferians.

I will watch that video again to refresh my memory.

kazza64

he talks about it towards the end when he reveals why he didnt make it to the top and was forced to leave the lifestyle due to conscience

pby1000

Thank you!

pby1000

OK. I have it in my mind that the Luciferians and Satanists are different. Perhaps it is not always so clear cut.

Either way, we need to do something about this, or we could end up condemning future generations. They might be in an even worse position to challenge this issue.

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