Let's approach it from the logical side: Fact: What they say does not make any logical sense.

Fact: They have their jobs not because they are idiots. So it can be assumed they are capable to understand simple logic and reasoning. Does anyone believe that Michael Trimm is too dumb, to understand that sending kids into a pool for an adult's man "entertainment" is something that HAS TO BE investigated in a state under the rule of law and in a healthy society?

Conclusion: They spread the lie, that #Pizzagate is not real by intention.

Therefore they are covering up heinous crimes instead of exposing them.

Conclusion: They are evil people. "Hey, we all know that there are rich people doing things they shouldn't do HA HA HA!" Very funny, assholes!

What else do we need to know about them to write them off?

This post was meant to jump start that process https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1821156

OK thanks so much for the help !! https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1821156

Pondering all of this, and I think this is so important. This may be the strongest evidence we have (?), or at least right up there. I'd like to see how many holes we can poke in the theory that this is describing what it seems to be, because our doing that will kneecap the shills & keep them from being able to use talking points we've already debunked.

I won't take credit for writing it, and I think I will post it in the form of a question, what have we missed? I feel like there are other bits of evidence that could be related that I'm just not remembering. And perhaps someone out there can think of more defense for the innocence of the email, which would help us too. Then we can look at what we've got, and present it as a red pill, if indeed it is as solid as it is shaping up to be.

I don't think I'm the one to do editing to the piece, my brain has gone offline and it might have to do with my early history, I tend to just black out when I get too close to certain things. This email seems to have hit a nerve, and I'm not able to really work on this. I also don't know how to do a photo search. But it's possible my brain fog will clear up soon and I can revisit this, in case you're too busy.

We need everyone asking for an open investigation and spotlight on Racine, Wisconsin. We will bring everything to light.

We need to show how Racine is a small part of the bigger puzzle, and is the key to unraveling the whole rigged system. Everything is connected. It is time for people to learn the truth. We have inside information about Paul Wellstone. We have inside information about Mark Zuckerberg. We have inside information on Ashton (Chris Kutcher) and John McCain. We can show how everything is connected, but we have to get the initial domino of Racine, Wisconsin to fall.

Shine the light on Racine.

I dont think WL was even aware that there were pedophile issues lurking in the 50,000 emails, the intent was to expose the inner workings of Podesta, Hillary, the Democratic Party, Clinton Foundation, etc.

Can this new evidence be tied in? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1816517

What about adding the "raw and uncut" comment? I'm not as familiar with this part of the evidence, so until I do some more research I won't be of much help. I would highlight the part about the affair too, that's the new bit of evidence to my knowledge. I've never heard it mentioned here before. Also setting the record straight about pool versus hot tub is good.

I'm willing to post and take the shill attack if that sounds better to you.

False Flag ≠ Fake News . Check your definitions. A "False Flag" (operation, incident, terrorist attack etc.), doesn't necessarily describe an event that never took place. The term False Flag implies that such an event did in fact TAKE PLACE but as a covert operation (incident, terrorist attack etc.). What is in question is the real nature of what actually happened and/or the true identity of the perpetrators. 9/11 was a False Flag . Putin rigging the US presidential election is a Fake News .

It makes me wonder which definition of Pizzagate he's using:

• Hillary Clinton selling kids from CPP (mainstream media definition)
• sex slavery of children by DC elites (alternative definition)

If he's rolling with the mainstream narrative, that HRC auctions babies from CPP, then I would consider that definition of a black flag.

That loud mouth cuck Alex Jones was one of the first I heard using the term hot tub, in relation to this story right back when PG first broke.

I think there has been some misunderstanding here re: Mike Trimm who had less than 9000 viewers for his false flag episode. He in effect argues that Pizzagate is real to the extent it applies to child sex trafficking in general but it is not real as it applies to Podesta and Alefantis and others. He is of the opinion that there is insufficient evidence to implicate these particular folks. He goes on to say that if such trafficking is CIA controlled then Pizzagate is a false flag. Well the CIA cannot possibly control all trafficking - is he talking about Alefantis/Podesta? He really doesn't make any sense to me with this false flag argument and this detracts from the efforts and findings of the research community.

Regarding Alefantis/Podesta is he challenging the adequacy of the evidence from the point of view of conviction or arrest or further investigation by law enforcement? He needs to clarify himself because there is certainly evidence to justify putting the Alefantis crowd under scrutiny such as surveillance in order to obtain enough evidence to arrest and later convict.

From his commentary Mr. Trimm seems unaware of the extensive evidence unearthed since the first few weeks following the emails release as it pertains to the Alefantis/Podesta crowd to say nothing of the wealth of information unearthed about child trafficking in general. Mr. Trimm is pontificating based upon a smidgen of data and thus his opinions are worthless and yet can harm those of us dedicated to this issue. He's a jerk, pay him no mind. At least Mr. Black had the intelligence to admit that he didn't have enough information to form an opinion.

But Mr. Trimm does challenge us to find more evidence and the Pizzagate community needs to decide whether the goal is to close in on Alefantis/Podesta/Washington DC or are we to forever chase down every lead on child sex trafficking worldwide, the latter goal being impossible in my judgment. Just what is our mission here?

It's said that WL is a CIA/MOSSAD creation to control the flow of leaks against TPTB. Im starting to believe this, although it might have backfired with the PG revelations.

Don't forget the 6 bajillion jews that died. Never forget, Always feel guilt.

This is why Racine, Wisconsin is so important. It is connected to every aspect of Pizzagate and Global Criminal Corruption, and we can show you how. We just need the spotlight to be put on Racine. It is the domino that will work better on Pizzagate and Global Criminal Corruption, and is a gateway to exposing the entire network of systemic corruption and abuse. This is why all of the leaders in Racine are suddenly resigning in a cover-up process. We can expose them all, but we need the spotlight on Racine - how else do you think Paul Ryan became so powerful? It is because of what he is covering up in his own district.

I would like to believe it was a psyop and children aren't being harmed but why would Alefantis call a child a hotard?

Pizzagate sprung from DNC emails made public by Julian Assange. Therefore if pizzagate is a false flag it had to have been master-minded and launched by Julian Assange. Anyone think that's the case?

Why "pizza related" map? Why so vague? Why don't you just tell me exactly what the f@ck is on the handkerchief?

This should almost be a separate post, don't you think? Pointing out these specifics?

He also spoke about controlling the MEDIA as well.

it is not a false flag... have we lost the meaning of that phrase? Anyone who uses that term in this way is suspect to me.

Did they take years to set up a pizza place to look like it was involved in pedophilia just in case podesta or clinton's emails were leaked and spirit cooking as well as the Clinton Foundation human trafficking were exposed? Who would want to make us believe rothschild alifantis was guilty when he wasn't?

It can be argued it is a distraction, but even that is a bit idiotic since the pizzagate (and spirit cooking) story red-pilled a number of people. The shooting there was a false-flag... but the pizza place is mixed up in the oligarch's ritual sexual assault of children. with the number of missing children every year, there are probably thousands of such dark businesses around the country. Flamboyant Alifantis (baby-lover) just couldn't keep his flaming freak show private enough so he's taking the brunt...

Just like Alex Jones, they get silent once it becomes too real. Phonies.

Regarding the heated pool email:

The government liaison of the Pew Charitable Trust announced there would be children in the heated pool for entertainment. They are going to be ubered in and here are their ages. The response was "I've never even had an affair before." Sorry but that doesn't sound very debunked.

It's obviously not a false flag. We've heard from victims of these horrors for years and thought they were crazy. Podesta's Wikileaked emails and Comet Ping Pong's Instragram pages and all the links discovered through these sources provided mountains of circumstantial evidence that these victims have been telling the truth about what happened to them.

There are pedophiles, satanic, compromised, and otherwise, at the highest levels of our government, obviously protected by the agencies who are supposed to be protecting us from these criminals. They are also protected by the media, which is supposed to be exposing these criminals. The victimized children and direct victims of rape, torture, and murder obviously suffer the most, but we are all victims of controlled politicians who are implementing policies intended to harm us. In addition to harmful trade and border policies, our food and water supplies are tainted, many pharmaceutical drugs make us ill or addicted, our medical system seems designed to keep us chronically ill rather than healed, our schools and media are designed to keep us uninformed about what's really going on, and anyone who tries to expose or correct these things encounters a huge organized, well-funded force designed to destroy or silence them.

WTH is Mike Trimm and why should I care what he thinks?

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