Pizzalawyer

I respect Abby Martin. At least she admits that she needs more info before rendering a verdict on the merits of Pizzagate. So this says to me that we need to do more work. Reporting on a pedophile cop in Keokuk, Iowa is not going to shore up Pizzagate, doing more research on Podesta, Alefantis, Virginia and Washington DC will.

EvaEverywhere

She gave us the "in"!

If you couche pizzagate and explain it starting with Steve Bannon -> IGE -> An Open Secret -> etc. rinse, repeat.

Pizzagate is everything, and can be brought up within a thousand context. First step is listening to people and understand how they have been misled about pizzagate. Then you can RESET and talk about it on their terms.

I am so unimpressed by people who dismiss others who are not on the exact same page as them (to feel good about themselves). They are just lazy and don't want to encounter something slightly difficult.

Language is powerful and all the power belongs to the person who is able to use language.

Fatsack

I used to think Abby Martin was perceptive and smart. Now she just sounds like a communist ideologue.

NotHereForPizza

Good god, she annoyed me.

She tried to scurry away from tough subjects, and completely wrote off the email about the kids in the hot tub. How do you view something like that and so quickly conclude that it must be embellished? What Joe said after she wrote it off made a lot of sense to me, and I feel like any good parent would video the situation similarly.

edit: View makes a lot more sense than video does here.

DonKeyhote

Who is this cunt? "Actually, Joe, cooking is his hobby, so it's not weird to mention pizza!" Great acute analysis bitch, gtfo back in the kitchen for real.

jangles

GO JO

V____Z

Abby Martin: gatekeeper https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo8AykxeYjc

She makes fun of Alex Jones, but used to hang with him https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mzfxa2w_0w

DriftingDevoid

I watched a short bit but either Abby Martin is a sloppy journalist and not caring about the signs on the wall OR she is just a downright shill (the DOOM shirt might be a hiding in plain sight sign).

V____Z

Downright shill, outed years ago.

PizzagateBot

I watched it yesterday. I love Joe, but generally he appeals to whoever he has on.

Abby Martin is obnoxious and I do not see her having an open mind by the way she spoke about things that were outside her 'realm'.

She certain isn't a pizzagate supporter, she was trying to write it off and move on and Joe is the one who kept at it. You should link to a few minutes before the part that you did link to.

Later she says in a mocking tone something like 'where were the pizzagate researchers looking into that' about a lead and she was wrong on that as well, it has been looked into.

She gets more upset about arbitrary political stuff and tried to write off pizzagate.

I think we can all go without any of Abby Martins opinions and commentary. You'll be better for it.

Fatsack

I agree. I used to respect her perception and insight into US empire, but lately it just sounds like she's gotten lazy and is relying on her laurels.

Poot_McGarvey

I still respect her but she annoys me in that she relies too heavily on ideology.

She's relying on her laurels because shes doing her work on her own (or with her brother)

But hey. Any big voices working to uncover corruption are a positive thing in this world... in my book.

fartyshorts

And Joe is completely right about how she ignores SJW's and censorship and suppressing free speech because "but look at what Trump is doing!"

Breadleaf

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CeepsNo

Yeah, he presents some of the good info about pizzagate, but I remember him kind of downplaying it at the start of it.

At ~39:00 he claims it's trump supporters "like a sports team" going in to fight antifa, which isn't true. I don't know if he's trying to appeal to leftists or middle of the road people or what, but that's just not a good concession to make.

thisHoCwilltumble

I think he was saying that both sides are like sports teams.

ArthurEdens

How has joe rogan not been targeted? Guy is a hero

DonKeyhote

Lol how is a pothead fighter gonna give us credibility? Glad he has an audience but come on. Do you understand that MSM coverage is the gold standard people rely on even here to source shit?

ArthurEdens

Your gold standard has a hot steaming turd in the center. Paper thin gold - miles of turd. It used to be the gold standard, not anymore. Joe has between 11 and 30 million downloads a month, not too shabby for a pothead fighter. CNN and MSNBC are lucky to crack those kinds of audience numbers these days, and they're huge corporations. Joe is a dude in a room.

DonKeyhote

You miss the point. Media corporations are at least publicly accountable to shareholders, so getting them to publish something is actually significant in the way a conspiracy oriented broadcast like Joe's (fairly often) isnt.

ArthurEdens

Most of the shareholders are the perpetrators or complicit, so publishing on msm will never happen. Joe Rogan and the rest are all we got. The revolution will not be televised.

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