YingYangMom

Remember Biljana Djurdjevic, the Artist that Tony Podesta likes and has some of her work hanging in his home? Well besides her work being related to dead girls and mind programming, she also has a collection called "dentist society". Take a look:

http://archive.is/dnz2C

http://biljanadjurdjevic.com/DentistSociety.html

RweSure

They don't believe it? That's pretty revealing.

So they are revealed to be liars willing to casually smear people with this accusation, an accusation they have no basis to believe is true. And Upvoated on top of it.

RweSure

Care to address the more important point? People on this board believing

that James Alefantis works with a pig farmer to dispose the bodies of all the many people he has killed, but first he takes their teeth out. I ask you again how do logical people get to this point? Where is a single bit of evidence for such a conclusion?

RweSure

you don't believe anything people have discovered here has basis in reality.

My objections to the speculation and the conclusions based on what has been discovered. People are simply fantasizing. I would say the conclusions have no basis in reality.

Example:

Discovery - Alefantis talked about a pig farm.

Conclusion - Alefantis is disposing of the bodies of his victims by feeding them to the pigs on the pig farm.

That should sound crazy to you because it is. A more logical conclusion would be there is nothing unusual in the fact that James Alefantis has connections to farmers as he owns two Farm-to-Table restaurants and he needs farms as his suppliers, not just for pork but for tomatoes, cheese, vegetables, beef, chicken, steak, lamb, eggs, etc. He also would need a seafood supplier.

You have heard of Farm-to-Table restaurants right?

i don't think i'm going crazy, but your comments are intended to make us feel and sound crazy by twisting people's words and coming to illogical non-conclusions...calling you a gaslighter doesn't imply that you've succeeded at gaslighting. see? you make logical leaps all the time.

I don't twist people's words and I don't make logical leaps. Again, we are in a thread based on the idea that James Alefantis works with a pig farmer to dispose the bodies of all the many people he has killed, but first he takes their teeth out. I ask you again how do logical people get to this point? Where is a single bit of evidence for such a conclusion?

I'm here because the thinking on display is fascinating, but also because moral panics and conspiracy theories are bad for democracy. And if folks actually wanted to contribute and help their energy could be better focused, but they would rather believe in massive overarching conspiracy theories.

(BTW, I think we are all far less rational than we realize and can easily tell ourselves a story that will fool ourselves because it feels right. I put myself in that category.)

RweSure

Gaslighting? Do you think you're going crazy when you read my stuff? Because I am in no way being deceptive.

I'm not gaslighting, I'm floodlighting.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W4gg1gPd8mQ/maxresdefault.jpg

I'm turning the lights all the way up for folks to examine what is and what is not there.

If you are a rational educated person, please show me how we have reached the conclusion that James Alefantis is a serial murderer.

I created alt accounts because my accounts are limited to 10 comments.

Vox_Pacem

what was the leak that joe biggs got fired for... about the "surviving pizzas"? this might be a method to their "moloch machine"

duhiki

If Epstein is tied to Mossad, they could be using MKUltra techniques for programming and relaying messages. Considering the range of guests Epstein entertained, I can't rule out the possibility. The use of dentist tools for torture is documented via Brice Taylor/Susan Ford. https://i.imgsafe.org/6ca1174a74.png

ProudTruther

And yet another thread that gives bad feeling while reading it, but also sounding pretty freaking plausible.

quantokitty

Man, this is one sickening subject. You did go there, and it's a valid discussion, just hard to read about.

The teeth though, I remember a child that was abducted and killed. It was Danielle Van Dam and four of her teeth were missing, one found lodged in her throat. The man that abused and killed her was a pig. They need to give pigs a new name because actual pigs aren't that reprehensible.

Anyway, here's a link:

http://www.upi.com/Van-Dam-testifies-to-lurid-details/69591023332269/

I don't think this was from extractions. I'm posting to show that even without the stem cell theory, that these scumbags are so depraved as to think children's teeth get in the way of what they want to do.

wtf_is_happening

I believe the MSM media version of the Pickton pig farm murders in Canada is also dodgy. There seems to be an established connection with pig farms and satanic cults/cannibalism etc. Puts you off your eggs and bacon, eh.

WakeyWake

Just playing devils advocate bc I worked at a tattoo shop a long time ago and it was normal for tattoo shops to use dentist chairs bc they raise/lower/adjust/hold heavy people, etc... Also could be used if your getting your hair done, more relaxing than a regular barber chair, same functions tho (up down tilt, etc)

ArthurEdens

I'm aware of that yes, thank you. Not the part about your neighbor, sorry about him. Terrible story.

Celticgirlonamission

Teeth = DNA :then they could be identified I think they keep the teeth as a some what trophy

PizzagateBot

I made this post here - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1431640

What is still most interesting to me is the instagram post of the farm owner - https://www.instagram.com/p/BK8v7v6AkhG/

pby1000

I read that they have people who own mortuaries. It is very easy for them to dispose of bodies off the books through cremation.

Of course, I would not discount anything. I am just letting people know.

helpingabit12

-Could be related-

Don't forget this weird and dubious Youtube channel:

BebotsOnly Forever

"Free"... Dental care for young poor girls...?"

"Philippines Dating Holy Cow American Bistro Lunch & First Time Dental Visit SM Mall"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kirIDc0yhs&t=774s

Intheknow

Search voat for info shared and specutalated in pizzagate

Intheknow

CIA...The Farm

Tanngrisnir

I have some stuff on the subject. Dentists tend to go hand in hand with human traffickers.

Vic138

I was in Africa and a guy I met said the women in this one tribe are known for knocking their front teeth out because it's better for giving blowjobs. Don't know if this is true or not, but at the time I believed it.

PizzagateBot

Hi! I used Google to find related Voat posts using the URL(s) in your post and created the following link(s):

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3688656/A-fully-equipped-dentist-s-chair-close-photos-young-girls-backsides-eerie-images-videotaped-walk-billionaire-pedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein-s-Florida-mansion.html Epstein's Florida mansion was raided in 2005 and there is a police video of inside the house-- I wonder what they found and have not disclosed. 3/9/2017 OP
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3688656/A-fully-equipped-dentist-s-chair-close-photos-young-girls-backsides-eerie-images-videotaped-walk-billionaire-pedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein-s-Florida-mansion.html Connection between Jeffery Epstein's dentist chair and Biljana Djurdjevic's "Dentist Society" paintings? Any other dentist leads? 11/27/2016 6959298
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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3688656/A-fully-equipped-dentist-s-chair-close-photos-young-girls-backsides-eerie-images-videotaped-walk-billionaire-pedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein-s-Florida-mansion.html Biljana Djurdjevic's "Dentist Society" paintings, Jeffrey Epstein's dentist chair, and Rachel Chandler's bloodied mouth kids! 11/28/2016 OP
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3688656/A-fully-equipped-dentist-s-chair-close-photos-young-girls-backsides-eerie-images-videotaped-walk-billionaire-pedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein-s-Florida-mansion.html HAPPENING: WTF is this??? >pizzagate boy lover symbol at a dentist place. Post was 404ed on 4chan yesterday 4/14/2017 8783897
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NSFWenly

A "Highland Clearance" is when someone has all their teeth removed so they do not scratch while giving oral sex.

MiikoKiiko

I heard a rumor a long time ago that Barney Frank was toothless for that reason. ugggg

RweSure

could be systems

Could be systems is not putting two and two together. It is making shit up. This inane theory is made up of unrelated pieces of evidence and then people are drawing conclusions on top of it. Nobody here is actually interested in finding out what may be true. They are just building​ towers of their own bullshit. This thread itself it already build atop of a bullshit edifice. You've convinced yourselves Alefantis is a serial murderer​ and the complete lack of evidence for that bullshit theory just makes search deeper to pull out more bullshit. You've also convinced yourselves Alefantis is connected to Epstein.

Intheknow

Jamey?

Tanngrisnir

So the idea of entrapment schemes committed by Epstein or Alefantis is ridiculous. But the idea of entrapment schemes committed by Russia on Trump is highly plausible. Thank you for your valued opinions. /s

RweSure

Wait, where are you taking those goalposts? Why are you moving them so far over there.

Who was talking about entrapment schemes? Folks were talking serial murder and cannibalism here. Show me a single piece of evidence that Alefantis is involved in a crime, let alone all the crimes alleged above.

Human trafficking Serial Murder Disposing of bodies by feeding them to pigs Extracting teeth and harvesting stem cells Drugging people Inserting tracking devices Selling human flesh as pork Selling human flesh to those cannibal restauarants.....wtf? Selling the bones to a soap company or using it as compost. Using too much nitrous.

Where in the deeply disturbed fantasizaing above is there a single bit of evidence connecting Alefantis to a crime?

Tanngrisnir

Killing for stem cells has occurred.

is there a single bit of evidence connecting Alefantis to a crime -

Considering you said connecting, then yes there is probable cause. There isn't direct evidence. Any rape that is reported years later doesn't have physical evidence and yet there can still be convictions.

  1. Three FBI recognized pedophile symbols used on his block.
  2. Use of the pedophile code word chickenlover on Instagram as well as the pedophile yellow beads image.
  3. Association with pedophile Luke Kuhn.
  4. Threatening the man who ran Pizzagategear. (A police report was filed and Alefantis can sue for libel if the supposed texts were faked but hasn't.)

If you need a victim there was the guy who claimed on Reddit to have been raped by Alefantis. I am sure you will dismiss him though because you only like anonymous sources when they come from 4chan fanfics.

RweSure

Killing for stem cells has occurred.

And? Lots of things occurred. If this is your standard, this is not going to be a productive conversation.

Three FBI recognized pedophile symbols used on his block. You can't be serious can you? Putting aside the simple fact that using those symbols in no ways means you are a pedophile as they are fairly common designs just like saying pizza doesn't mean you are a pedophile. Let's put that aside, it certainly isn't illegal and was not even done by Alefantis. You know you're reaching terribly on this one, right?

Use of the pedophile code word chickenlover on Instagram as well as the pedophile yellow beads image. Instagram? So again no crime. Like if I commented on my friend's instagram to "put down the crack pipe" that is not a crime. Also pedophile yellow beads? That's a thing?

Association with pedophile Luke Kuhn. What association? This guy doesn't show up in the summary or the wiki. Doesn't matter. It's doesn't connect Alefantis to a crime. Simply knowing a guy who committed a crime doesn't mean you are connected to it except it a silly little semantic way.

Threatening the man who ran Pizzagategear. (A police report was filed and Alefantis can sue for libel if the supposed texts were faked but hasn't.)

Now, we're getting warmer. Still, seriously? This guy couldn't even convince voat this happened.

If you need a victim there was the guy who claimed on Reddit to have been raped by Alefantis. Should have led with this guy.

You don't actually know what probable cause is, do you? You don't think those any of the first three would justify a warrant do you? The second two might have if they were real.

UnicornsAndSparkles

They must hire people for every sick role they need. Why would they not just hire someone to take the teeth out for them. I'm sure peadophile dentists exist.

ZunarJ5

Or they would just abduct them too.

AngB23

Great post! This probably has 99.9% chance of having nothing to do with this but, it caught my attention when I was told this and thought I'd throw it out there. A friend of mine is an Endodontist and he mentioned like a month ago a shortage of Nitrous Oxide. He said he has a decent supply but worried when it's gone.

Just talked to him again yesterday and it came up again...still a shortage and now he's getting very concerned. Very odd it's still in shortage. FDA posted in January about it. I know it's used for other things but dentistry is probably the #1 I would think.

http://www.ada.org/en/publications/ada-news/2017-archive/january/fda-issues-shortage-notice-for-nitrous-oxide

equineluvr

Nitrous oxide (poppers, whip-its, and just inhaling via mask) is used in the homo community to relax the anal sphincter.

Some videos of some crappy songs by crappy bands using it were posted on here; I'll see if I can find them.

SayWhatNOWAY

Omg! These freaks will do anything for a thrill! Evil!

ArthurEdens

I was thinking about this pig farm yesterday. I think they could also be slaughtering the bodies and selling it as pork. Or selling it as human (long pork) to those cannibal restaurants. Grind up the bones at the farm and sell the the powder to flour mills or that soap company in Pennsylvania or just mix it in with the top soil or compost.

SayWhatNOWAY

Jesus, I want to vomit!

ArthurEdens

sorry, me too

SayWhatNOWAY

Not UR fault. It needs to be told. Sadly

awake4646

What is the name of the farm? Whitmore?

ArthurEdens

that's the one i think yeah

UnicornsAndSparkles

Depressingly, you are probably right.

janedoemadashell

OMFG! Some of this depravity has to be related to centuries of inbreeding.It must be. We see these individuals 'functioning' on the outside in socially acceptable ways. And yet, story after story after story demonstrates, imo, that none of these unbelievable actions taken by this population even phases them as abnormal on any level. There needs to be a whole new personality disorder diagnosis in the DSM....

Pizzalawyer

Yes, they lack an empathy gene. Normal toddlers display empathetic behavior. These folks are truly abnormal.

Are_we_sure

Now, many people have put 2 and 2 together

Wow many people are geniuses at math. It's all so simple. Kill them in in DC, take them to Jeffrey Epstein's FL house, take out their teeth, then take them to a pig farm in Maryland. EasyPeasy. It's like Occam owned an electric razor!!!!!!

EvaEverywhere

Isn't dental tissue worth a lot of money?

FreeRebel

Good thinking.

Jem777

Hate to even post about this because it makes me sick but research found that stem cells could be located in teeth and harvested. There are numerous research articles on this and it is practiced.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mohd_Hilmi_Abu_Bakar/publication/265985582_Stem_cells_from_childrens'_teeth/links/543bace50cf2d6698be30ebb.pdf?inViewer=true&disableCoverPage=true&origin=publication_detail

remedy4reality

or.... ' Project Moonstruck, 1952, CIA: Electronic implants in brain and teeth Targeting: Long range Implanted during surgery or surreptitiously during abduction Frequency range: HF - ELF transceiver implants Purpose: Tracking, mind and behavior control, conditioning, programming, covert operations Functional Basis: Electronic Stimulation of the Brain, E.S.B.'

http://www.lhohq.info/container/index.html

Pizzalawyer

To add to Jem777, the younger the tooth the more potent the stem cells. A fruitful line of research may be one of analyzing the need for or shortages of human teeth for stem cell research and dental treatment. I have found dentisits in my community to be overly eager to pull teeth and replace with a tooth implant which frequently requires bone grafts from cadavers. I say, there are not enough willing donors to supply the needs of the medical industry which in turn fuels illicit trade in body parts.

Jem777

Thanks for hitting me up @pizzalawyer . I wish we could all work together even when we don't agree or find evidence that oppose an earlier stated view. That is reasonable and in fact scientific. I am working on doing that more. It is hard when slurs and names are called and most people are trying to do the right thing.

I believe from the scientific study that I posted there is discussion about the stem cells that are available in different types of children's teeth, I.e. Molars, cuspids, etc.

They clearly have identified the most valuable teeth and process to obtain these stem cells. All indications this is from live children or at least recently alive children. This seems like a great area of further research.

Laskar

I agree.

Pizzalawyer

You are quite right. I have not been submitting posts, just comments. The submissions are time consuming requiring hours of research and effort to compose. My goal in joining was to act as a self-appointed cheerleader - or cat herder - to offer suggestions and encouragement and to stimulate a more focused effort. I'm hoping for the day when we can dump packages of research and position papers into the laps of those in power like Trey Gowdy or our own Congressmen. I want to see us achieve some credibility.Become lobbyists if you will since I think we are acquiring a rather sophisticated level of understanding.

On the issue of organ donors we need legislation at the national and international level, say WHO, World Heath Organization to toughen up laws that will discourage trafficking. All tissue and organs need to be certified that they come from an unadulterated source, we do this for organic foods, don't we?

Dressage2

Bingo! There you go, the precious stem cells.

equineluvr

Extraction is one possibility. However, a full or even partial mouth extraction would put the person out of "service" for at least 24 hours while they recover from pain, bleeding. One could argue they don't care, but I think "performance" would be hampered. If impromptu sex is your goal, that would put a damper on your "fun."

There are a few dental connections that have come up --

There is a "special" dental RESTRAINT invented just for kids. It's called the PEDO Burrito.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1772155

From the other (above) thread --

Combination pediatric patient safety restraint and cushion for dental patients.

Dental restraints. Hmm…

Here’s the original application http://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn75608331&docId=SPE20091007162017#docIndex=9&page=1 .

The trademark was simply typed words in all caps. It was sent in on a label, according to the paperwork. Not real impressive for a company logo. (And there also exists the possibility that this company is a front.)

Meet Vacharee Peterson. She's listed as the trademark owner as an individual. There was also a former owner (same last name, and may have been a dentist), according to the paperwork. Husband or ex husband maybe?

http://www.cdentc.org/meet-the-cdc-team

Vacharee is the CEO of the Community Dental Care. It’s a dental clinic, which includes pediatric patient treatment. She trademarked the Pedo Burrito name for her safety restraint device for young dental patients in 1999. CDC is a big practice, with four dental office locations.

Our multilingual and multicultural dentists and staff are gentle, kind and compassionate. They will try to make your dental experience easy, fast and pleasant.

Philanthropic too.

Started in 2006 as a partnership with other area providers, Program to Improve Community Oral Health (PICOH), which is grounded in evidence-based practices and has received national recognition, provides in-clinic oral health prevention and education for children and pregnant women, outreach, and school-based preventive oral health programming.

PICOH has a very interesting logo too. https://imgoat.com/uploads/512bd43d9c/10479.pngPNG

It looks like a butterfly, and is made up of two big people and one little person between them. We’ve seen these same type of logo arrangements before.

I searched “Combination pediatric patient safety restraint and cushion for dental patients” and this was one result. Just an interesting book called “Pediatric Dentistry for Special Child” Google result

Some interesting images came up in the search for pedo burrito https://imgoat.com/uploads/512bd43d9c/10480.pngPNG

As I was looking though the dental images of kids strapped helplessly to boards, with their mouths pried open with metal hooks, sedated at the hands of a sadist, I just get sick to my stomach.

So I will just leave this here, if anyone is interested in pursuing it further.

__

Dentistry plays a large role in trafficking somehow. Plenty of opportunities. There is stem cell harvesting. Trackers can be inserted. You can be injected with medications. You can be molested while you are unconscious. (My child went to a pediatric clinic once, and I was not pleased with the “no parents allowed in treatment room” policy. We swapped to a family dentist instead.) Are low-income kids being funneled into the dental system with all this low-cost/free care?

remedy4reality

or this >> Project Moonstruck, 1952, CIA: Electronic implants in brain and teeth Targeting: Long range Implanted during surgery or surreptitiously during abduction Frequency range: HF - ELF transceiver implants Purpose: Tracking, mind and behavior control, conditioning, programming, covert operations Functional Basis: Electronic Stimulation of the Brain, E.S.B.

http://www.lhohq.info/container/index.html

DrTeethateJanice

I found this article Peterson and it states that she's originally from Thailand and went to dental school.

"Dr. Vacharee Peterson came to Minnesota from Thailand as a high school exchange student and stayed for Bethel College and dental school, but she had trouble finding a job because the dentists told her she did not look like a proper dentist."

The Thailand thing might be something? We all know a bunch of shit goes on there.

rooting4redpillers

"One could argue they don't care, but I think performance" would be hampered. If impromptu sex is your goal, that would put a damper on your "fun."

I WOULD argue "they don't care," and I'd even argue that it would be the diametrical opposite of "a damper on their fun." I hate even writing this shit, but I think you give these people too much credit for capability normal human emotions. I'm not criticizing YOU, and I upvoated your comment. I just thought this ONE thing needed to be said.

equineluvr

Perhaps. It's still all speculation.

NSFW_LeeLee

The sadists would like it, and anyone who heard Skippy Podesta screaming at that child knows he is sadistic.

remedy4reality

Do you happen to have the link to the jamescorp site? I have something significant to add.

Dressage2

For some reason your #1047 and the next I goat are not loading.