waxdino

I've lost all faith that the government is going to do anything. I had a fleeting hope in Trump, but that's gone. I wish our government wasn't crippled, but I really think this is up to us. Which may be hopeless, we are a brainwashed mass of lazy, dumb fucks. Yes, I'm very pessimistic, but obviously think there is some hope, and it's worth the effort either way.
I think the only thing that will work, why I am here, will be ordinary people discovering facts, making connections, and spreading the word until enough people finally rise up to stop it. If you think there is an easier way, try to pull it off. I'm being totally sincere.

waxdino

I said, by all means, try. But I'm being a realist. Again, check out Charles Ortel's work. If that hasn't gotten results, I don't know how even all of us here filing out forms with the IRS will bring down the pedo ring. Don't get mad at me for that.
I had a boss try to cheat both me and the IRS by pocketing my tax deductions. I spent many weeks straightening out the mess it caused, filling out forms... Do you think he got in one iota of trouble? He paid them off or whatever, and that was that. So, if you think filling out some forms is going to bring down an international, government-protected pedophile ring, you might be disappointed. Just saying. Me pointing that out doesn't stop you from trying, so I don't get the hate.

Stormer-chan

Nice job, OP.

Cigarette5mokingman

It's so sad that posts like this go unwanted and unread and deleted, but posts about alefantis is an alien, and Kanye ranting on stage about "Jay zs going to kill me" thrive and flourish.

possiblepizza

Jay Z being dangerous is not so far fetched, but surely Alefantis is very nearly human ;-)

waxdino

Things like this never actually work in real life.
Reporting these crimes would do nothing but make you vulnerable for trying to expose it. It certainly won't result in bringing down an establishment-protected criminal cabal.
I mean, we could go around making citizens arrests, too, but, come on. It's just silly to think that'd really work and not just get you sucided.

EvaEverywhere

There are things called CC... Use it. When writing about such things you should always CC another person, ideally, your lawyer, notary, a person of import in your town, etc. All this depends on whom you are reporting. Your judgement is required.

fogdryer

Everything has consequences. Doing nothing has consequences

FuckReddit69

What's the solution ? Do you have a better idea ?

Following the money is probably the only way we can actually take them down. Al Capone didn't go down for drugs, they got him on tax evasion. I think money is the only language they speak. It's the only way we can probably "legally" get them.

waxdino

I just don't see how the corrupt system can be taken down by the corrupt system itself. And triggered by one ordinary guy filing some papers with the IRS. It's a nice fantasy, and, by all means, go ahead and try.
But it's going to take people opening their eyes and standing up. Yes, follow the money by all means, and spread the info you find. But there have already been entire treatises drawn up breaking down the Clinton foundation's illegality- see Charles Ortel- and I hardly see the feds rushing in to stop it.

fogdryer

Bad attitude. Lol You have to try

You never know what's gonna happen

Pg_is-insane

There's no turning back for me once a pedo always a pedo. Please watch me commit suicide on my webcam. Then log into my account my password is Facebook and tell the world of voaters what a slimy piece of shit I am

James A.

DerivaUK

Just make it soon, mofo.

YingYangMom

Haha :)

eucalyptus_spearmint

Great find!

Pg_is-insane

I'm a dirty disgusting pedophile. If you want to use my voat account to spread the word my password is Facebook. Please spam voat telling everyone I'm a kid diddling kid fucker.

James A.

UnicornsAndSparkles

Nice find. There's even a letter template! I am curious as to how many sent Trump a postcard too.