When James Comey was 15, he and his younger brother Peter were held by the armed "Ramsey rapist". No one was charged. ( pizzagate )

submitted by Laskar

In North Jersey, three days before Halloween and 9 days before the elections in 1977, James Comey and his younger brother Peter had a run in with a criminal that had raped young teens in Bergen County.

A man dubbed “the Ramsey rapist” held 15-year-old Comey and his younger brother at gunpoint after breaking into their Allendale home on an October day in 1977, one of a string of break-ins that included the rape of two area baby sitters. The Comey brothers, locked in a bathroom while the intruder searched the home, escaped through a window, only to encounter the man again on their lawn. The brothers ran back inside the house, locked the doors and called police, setting off a massive manhunt.

Comey has said [that episode] taught him important lessons about crime’s psychological toll on victims. He said it affected him for years, though he did not say exactly how.

Source: http://archive.northjersey.com/news/fbi-nominee-comey-was-held-captive-as-a-bergen-teen-1.589446?page=all

Comey has seen all those emails. What happened to that important lesson?

One of the Comey brothers (unnamed), identified the rapist in a line up, but the police did not pursue**any **charges. In fact, the bail for the guy they had in custody was lowered and the police chief put up his own house as bond (ethics, conflict of interest). A grand jury in 1978 returned no indictments.

No one was ever charged for the home invasion or the rapes.

Sources:

http://archive.northjersey.com/news/fbi-nominee-comey-was-held-captive-as-a-bergen-teen-1.589446?page=all

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/07/the-gunman-the-rapist-the-woodsman-and-young-jim-comey

How many holes can you find in this story? e.g. How did two teenagers just run back into the house "to call police" when they were confronted outside by a guy with gun?

whatonearth

LOL I am starting to think that the /v/pizzagate ideal would be for people who are crime victims as children to be immediately executed so that they never accidentally make something of themselves as adults.

Stosh21

Time to watch some old Howdy Doody re-runs...

damnittohell

Perp was the son of some VIP who got him out of it.

Laskar

Or CIA.

quantokitty

Yeah, Comey was 16. Is that what you're saying? That he was involved?

srayzie

Yesterday on the Common Sense Show, Dave Hodges's says that James Comey and his brother were victims of childhood abuse. This actually a very good clip of the podcast. He talks about Pizzagate/Pedogate too. I'm curious to know more about James Comey's childhood. Dave Hodges is going to cover that soon.

Here is the clip I listened to. It starts at around 1:08. https://youtu.be/ywYPWH-vwG0

Criticalthinker615

I dont quite understand the part about the police chief covering the rapists bail. I dont understand what the logic would have been for that giant conflict.

Laskar

The entire story is fraught with such discrepancies. When things obviously don't make sense, you know there is an attempt at hiding the truth.

quantokitty

You know, now that I'm thinking about it, why was the man searching the house? What was he looking for? Evidence? A babysitter? Were the babysitters that were sexually molested female? If so, it's against his MO to be breaking into a home with two teenage boys. Lots wrong with this story, but again, why search the house?

Laskar

He obviously wasn't searching the house. If there was a break-in, they would have called it a break-in. Notice there is no information on how the perp got in.

quantokitty

Exactly. But why a break-in? He raped babysitters. That was the MO. So why the Comey home? What was he searching for? It makes no sense.

Laskar

The article did not say break-in, but "home invasion"-- it's a small point maybe, but we have seen the latter term used when the occupants of the home were raped or murdered. They never say "home invasion" when no one is home. There is no source reporting that there was forced entry in the Comey case either.

quantokitty

It's just weird that the previous cases had, what I assume, is a female babysitter on the premises, and that when this "home invasion" occurs, there are two teen boys? How did the police even connect the home invasion with the rapes of the young girls? Why would they? If someone kicked in the Comey's door and started searching, what does that have in common with the other case?

44NJ9

I'm sure Comey took a fat one in the ass that night.

Laskar

He himself said he was traumatized for years, but gave no further detail.

Tyranny-News-Network

The fact that Comey was touched by LE and the courts may constitute his entre to the global protection racquet. Even without the various secret societies, the legal system has all the required pieces to commit organized crime. Add government and the IRS, etc. and the sky's the limit.

Laskar

Exactly right.

Blacksmith21

What percentage of rape victims know their attacker(s)?

Conejo_loco

WHAT THE EVERLOVING FUCK?! I moved to Los Angeles and worked in Beverly Hills... I was talking with a group of coworkers... 9 of us, all attractive men/women... they were all talking about how everyone is molested as a child at some point... I was like, I wasn't I had a great childhood... they didn't believe me... that's when I realized how FUCKED this world is... 9 random people from all over the world and I was the only one not molested as a child...

quantokitty

Very sad commentary.

Godwillwin

Whaaaaat? I wasn't either, but I do remember my best friend's dad liking to tickle and he drank martinis. When he was drunk he would take tickling a little too close. It freaked me out so I learned after 2 too close tickling incidents to never get close enough to him to be tickled. He did this in the den in front of his entire family, so it wasnt a bedroom type situation. He would tickle all over the body and while trying to get away his hands would go where they shouldn't. His daughter, my friend, didn't learn as quickly as me. But she never revealed to me that she felt his tickling was inappropriate. We never spoke of it

bahhumbugger

That is a mind fuck

equineluvr

Great post.

Dad later was "elected" to serve on the City Council. A reward for something?

""J. Brien Comey was an Allendale councilman in the mid- and late-1980s."

"And how do two teenagers just walk around their house, go in and lock the door to call the police when they are held at gunpoint?"

That's not what happened. (from linked article) They hid in the bathroom as the man went through the house, then they climbed out the window. When they got outside they saw the guy in the yard, then ran back inside and locked the doors, then called police. Jim was the elder brother and was 17 (not 15, as in title) at the time. Since he is GAY/BI, "sissy" behavior on his part -- at any age-- does not surprise me. But I think this is a typical reaction.

Just curious, why did you bold before the election, Laskar? Which election are you referring to? The presidential election was held 11/02/1976 (the year prior). What bearing on an election could a 17-year-old (born in 1960) James Comey have?

Godwillwin

Comey is bi?

Laskar

Like I said, the guy with gun sees them when they climb out of the bathroom window and just let's them run into the house?

The article I quoted and sourced reported his age as 15 and that he was the older brother.

What are the sources of your other assertions?

fogdryer

Too many oddities

Laskar

Agreed.

srayzie

The Common Sense show yesterday talked about him having a terrible childhood. I haven't had time to find out details yet.

Laskar

Read his Wikipedia page--doesn't sound too terrible there, unless you want to read into it.

srayzie

Ok I'll check that out. Thank you

Laskar

You are welcome.

TrishaUK

Comey is mixed up in all this: HOW HSBC MONEY LAUNDERED THE CLINTON FOUNDATION MONEY FOR THE CLINTONS: 1) HUGE 'CLINTON Money Laundering' - Hillary, Chelsea Clinton & Foundation Scheme REVEALED, HSBC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpPa9HDXVVo 2) EXPOSED: FBI Comey Receiving Clinton Foundation Millions as his Brother does CF Taxes! - FILE ACTUALLY LABELED: 'Hillary Cover Up Operation'! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmY9hEtsS3Q - (these are 2 other interesting videos related - BUSTED! More New Clinton Scandals - Pocketing 'Relief Money' & Bribes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTDlZ7oPZ7A )

"FBI and DOJ In Turmoil" Over Comey’s Betrayal & Lynch’s Cover-up of HILLARY CLINTON Crimes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG0JKyXV4vw

srayzie

I see just a general description. I posted the video but here it is again https://youtu.be/ywYPWH-vwG0 Dave Hodges said him and his brother were victims of child abuse and it's well documented.

Laskar

Can you tell me where it is "well documented" so I can include it in my post?

srayzie

I don't know yet. That's what the Common Sense show said. I listen to that show everyday. He's going to cover it soon he said. I'll try to find out.

Laskar

Okay, please let me know.

srayzie

I will. I'm going to comment and ask him.

TrishaUK

This is an excellent podcast by The Common Sense Show!!

srayzie

Yes!

Jem777

I commented about this awhile back and have done some rearch about the Ramsy rapist case and the possibility that James Comey was a victim of something as a teenager as well as his brother.

I believe the Ramsey rapist was jailed for something else later on and died recently. The part about one of the Comey boys identifying him out of a line-up and the police chief putting up his own house to post bond I have never seen.

That is so disturbing. There are many holes in this story and might open a lot in explaining James Comey and his lack of investigation on pizzagate.

Laskar

There was another "Ramsey" case and that is the one where the guy died I think.

I even found a recent one with the same name, who was shot by police.

There's a big cover up. Otherwise they would say something like "Comey attacker never charged" or something or just ask Comey why his parents did nothing about it.

Dressage2

What about this Howdy Doody crap from ET Williams? This was Halloween. Was somebody in that grouping dressed as Howdy Doody? This whole thing is very bizarre. Maybe this affected him in his later years.

EricKaliberhall

The Police Chief put up his own house as bond. Hmmm Interesting!

2impendingdoom

no wonder they dropped the charges.

Laskar

Very. He did not seem to be worried the guy would run out on him, because he knew the perp was "untouchable" in the first place. They just went through the motions.

EricKaliberhall

Police corruption at its Finest.

Laskar

Of course the police are corrupt. Many are pedos as well, and some even prey on their own children; see the list in this article: https://medium.com/@LoriHandrahan2/law-enforcement-arrested-for-trading-in-child-rape-ece48164430f

So who controlled the grand jury?

How did two teens get away from a guy with a gun?

Who is higher up than the cop who risked his own home?

At what time of day did this take place? Where were the parents?

If the perp was identified by victims, what about the other victims? The press does not expose this back then, or even when Comey himself brought up the incident?

equineluvr

Grand juries are VERY manipulated by the prosecutor. They follow his/her lead.

Laskar

So a rape suspect identified by victims is never charged.

Who was the prosecutor?

And what about all the holes in the story?

jstrotha0975

Stockholm syndrome.

SoldierofLight

There's a lot more to that story than what they're putting into print. I'd be interested to know if there are any indications that the rapist was part of a ring of some kind. I wonder if the rapist was fulfilling an initiation rite. Was it just him or did he have accomplices? Did Comey's parents know the guy or have any connection to him?

Clearly, if the police chief made sure the guy walked and without even being charged (which kept him out of "the system" or database of arrests) he had reason to keep the guy quiet.

Nice find, OP.

fogdryer

Was he related to chief????

SoldierofLight

I think related in one way or another. Probably not biologically. I'm thinking that maybe the chief and Comey's father were Masons or part of some other group participating in sex trafficking and child rapes. If Comey himself was a 33rd degree Mason it would not surprise me one bit. In fact, it would explain a lot.

Godwillwin

Do we know comey is a mason?

SoldierofLight

I don't know if he is or not. But if he is, then others will know and have maybe posted info about this somewhere.

fogdryer

makes sense

Laskar

Thanks. I'm glad I am not the only one who noticed how many hole there are in that story. FBI?

And how do two teenagers just walk around their house, go in and lock the door to call the police when they are held at gunpoint?

carmencita

What if the boys or one of them was really raped? What if the story sounds as if it has holes in it because it does. Remember in those days, what it would mean in that community to the family. The mother was involved in the Catholic Church and in the country club, the father sold real estate and was a councilman. It is possible the rapist was never charged, so the story could be changed. It was just a break in, no rape. People wondered, but later forgot about it. Oh, yeah the boys were really smart, right? We wonder what happened to make them like they are, so maybe they were raped and it was covered up to bury the embarrassment. James and his brother Peter may have both become pedophiles or maybe just James. Just a thought.

Laskar

If it's a break-in to rob the home, then it is called burglary. When someone is assaulted or murdered in the home and there is no "break-in" or burglary, then it is called a "home invasion". There is no mention of forced entry either, so they could not use the term break-in in that case either. Think about all the things wrong with the "official story" as per usual.

All the information indicates there were no charges.

carmencita

I am proposing there were no charges because the parents did not press charges. Due to their standing in the community and the shame in those days, I am saying they may have just wanted it to go away. Also, as we know parents nowadays allow these things to happen, for payment. Also there is the 'possibility that a master key was used by LE and the story was made up. I think there are holes because the truth has never been told. Only Comey and his brother know the real truth.

Laskar

There were no charges because the grand jury did not hand any down.

The parents were not even mentioned.

SoldierofLight

You're absolutely right. The official version stinks. Also, if this was a legit version of the story, why hasn't it come up from Comey's people? They would have used it as a compassion story to shine him up and guilt people onto his side-- from the time he was in the running for FBI director until recently when the Donald stuff blew up.

Laskar

Exactly.

It really looks like they do not want anyone to even know about this.

They would rather talk about an absurd analogy of Nixon firing a special prosecutor to Trump's firing of Comey, instead of opening the Pandora's box of Bill Clinton firing his FBI director the very day before the body of Vince Foster was "discovered". Although Foster was last seen alive in the white house and no record exists of him leaving, his dead body with no blood is found in Virginia. Tunnels?

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1854448

SoldierofLight

Fun fact: Listed as an example beneath the input field for Google Earth is "1600 Pennsylvania Ave, 20500."

With tunnels under most of DC, how could there not be tunnels beneath the White House too, especially for use in an emergency? So logic directs me to think of a location that is close and that could be secured from passerby's eyes. A location they could take Foster via an underground tunnel, pop up with men wearing guns but who wouldn't raise eyebrows and where they could scoot Foster into a car, preferably in an underground parking lot beneath this theoretical nearby building. Using Google Earth, I see how incredibly close and direct the Treasury Department building is. How handy.

I think you nailed it. The body was clearly moved. Anyone who isn't afraid to see the truth is hit between the eyes with the obvious fact that his body was moved and thus it was a cover up of some sort for some reason. Even back when I was still asleep, I knew that. Except I figured he'd had an honest heart attack with a prostitute and his buddies wanted to save the widow from embarrassment. How naive I was.

Laskar

The thing is that there is no evidence whatsoever, video or otherwise, that Foster left the white house, let alone traveled to another state suddenly to kill himself in a park.

But if they conveyed him through a tunnel, then everything was easy for them to stage--he could have even been shot there.

There must be lots of tunnels, even before Obama put in more: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/us/big-hole-on-white-house-lawn-prompts-speculation.html (from this: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1477680) )

Your last sentence is more like the Rockefeller heart attack story.

ThePuppetShow

Here's evidence of tunnels under the White House..

Not to entirely douse warm interests in secret places at the White House, there was once a “tunnel” that could be considered “secret,” although it was not a very desirable place to visit. This was a conduit built to carry water from the concealed gutters on the roof away from the house and was subsequently incorporated into Thomas Jefferson’s water closets in 1801. Water and waste were simply flushed from the house, through the tunnel, out in the open on the marsh that began on down the slope south of the house. James Hoban made a careful elevation showing a neat, arched interior with plastered walls, and a deep bed of gravel and sand for the floor. replaced the tunnel in the 1850s. https://www.whitehousehistory.org/secret-spaces-at-the-white-house

SoldierofLight

You brought up a good point with the gunshot-- in the tunnel it would have been hard to hear it as opposed to almost anywhere else. If it happened within the White House itself, it would probably depend on where and who was there at the time. However, I'm guessing it was planned and so they would have used a silencer. Maybe they drugged him first so he wouldn't resist and they did it where they could clean up easily and without anyone walking in on them-- like the tunnels. I didn't know about the Obama expansion of the tunnels. But back then I probably would have taken it at face value. That's what's funny about waking up-- everything looks different afterwards.

Laskar

Your last sentence is a real gem--so true.

This is all the more reason that we need to look again at past events, especially those which so not seem to make sense. A little light shining on them and then we see clearly.

The new Obama tunnels featured in one of my early VOAT posts, five months ago: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1477680

It is getting harder to find good documentation of the tunnels but I think there should be a post gathering everything on them. Even their origins are interesting ("spooky" as intelligence services).

SoldierofLight

You're right! I'm getting all my Clinton-related "suicides" and Cabal trickery confused, lol. In my defence, there's a lot of them!

Laskar

No need to defend yourself when you are not attacked. : )

At some point, if you go high enough up, it's all interwoven.

SoldierofLight

No worries, didn't feel attacked. Just some late night self-effacing humor.

It's incredible how much of it is interwoven, as you point you, and how that goes back thousands of years.

cantsleepawink

Yes, clearly more to the story.

mrohm

This makes his silence on Skippy even worse, to be honest.

Laskar

That's my point. The corruption is almost unimaginable.

DerivaUK

This could have created severe mental and emotional trauma. One common reaction to PTSD is psychopathy; devoid of or drastically lessened feelings of remorse or emotion amongst other psychological effects.

wgvdl

wrong. as we learn nowadays psychopathy seems to be a genetical launched brain development disorder.

by imaging techniques we meanwhile are able to identify certain brain areas that are underdeveloped in a psychopaths's brain. for example we have a degenerate fasciculus uncinatus, an important enervation that connects the prefrontal cortex as is identified with executive functions with the limbic system esp. the amygdala as is identified with emotional responses.

so a psychopath can execute/act without emotional impact.

these brain areas start in fetal development. it is speculated if a womb/mothernal stress - trauma might interrupt the proper and healthy development of these brain areas. but it's very unlikely.

NSFW_LeeLee

Interesting and contrary to what I have been taught. Please, show me a study saying that psychopathy is common in PTSD sufferers. We covered deviant behaviors in psych class not long ago and I'd like a link to share with my fav professor.

DerivaUK

It has long been established that there is a link to early adverse and traumatic experience as an antecedent to later psychopathy and this is found in many early studies including Hare ('91, '93 and later 2000 and '01) and Lykken ('95) to mention a couple, and these are all supported by the fantastic early maternal deprivation and childhood neglect studies by Bowlby ('69, '73, 80) and more recently Carletti and Craparo (2010).
There also exists a wealth of research in the link between severe anxiety (arising from early experience) and psychopathy https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3871837/#!po=16.6667 .
However, it was Hodge in 1992 who first proposed early PTSD as an antecedent of adult psychopathy and the premise of a type of causation of a type of addiction to violence http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cbm.1992.2.2.212/full#references Hodge's studies elicited many studies in this area (mainly sampled from prison and offender treatment programmes) for one of the more recent example see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3871837/#!po=16.6667 There is much published out there in relation to this topic although online links for some of the more formative and well known papers are not available for example Dolan and Coid (1995) and Coid (2012). The link between PTSD and military conflict experience such as soldiers from Vietnam and more recently, Iraq and Afghanistan who were later diagnosed as scoring very high in the PCR checklist for psychopathic traits that were not present prior to their combat experiences. My knowledge is also qualification based.

Jem777

It is irresponsible to state psychopathy is a result of PTSD. That is simply not true. And am writing this from a place of qualifications without going into them.

Psychopathology is the result of a variety of factors that can include extreme early childhood trauma but will also include attachment disorders, severe abandonment and a whole host of issues. Even with all of the above children are resilient and do not become psychopathic in most cases.

PTSD is actually being changed to PTSI because it is not a disorder it is considered an injury to the central nervous system. (Fight, flight or freeze) This system gets deregulated to such a severe degree in extreme trauma and repeated trauma that it become damaged and can no longer regulate appropriately again.

What is true though is that male children who have been sexually abused by male suspects are more likely by a significant number of becoming abusers themselves if not helped and also more likely to identify as attracted to same sex partners.

DerivaUK

It is one of many hypothesised antecedents and yes, I agree there are often other factors. But not always.

carmencita

This is why I have always believed it is so very important to get abused children the help they need. It must be started immediately. They should not have to wait, with time to think, about how no one cares. For if they are not helped they will feel alone and detached from their family and others. I am hoping that there will be centers started for those that have been harmed by the elites and others. There are so many children that will turn to pedophilia if not given the proper care.

Laskar

What about the rapist who got away? And why particularly were the Comey's targeted?

2impendingdoom

There was 60 minutes episode about this. For a while, back in October/November, i thought being a kidnap victim meant that Comey would be all for pizzagate, but that has not panned out and instead he is howdy doody. Or he's afraid of Clinton Body count increasing.

Godwillwin

What is howdy doody? A Disney cowboy? Gay?

TrishaUK

Wonder if this is when the Comey brothers were 'picked' for service by the elites? Makes sense if you think about it, the elites just showed the boys that they were in control of the police and justice dept by freeing/not charging a rapist, thief and gunman! Years later Comey helps the Clinton Foundation with laundering $1,000,000s through HSBC (and his brother is still there) and HSBC got off with a slap on the wrist and minimal fines when exposed, no indictments. After his faithfulness at HSBC Comey was promoted to Head of the FBI by Obama, despite no experience in law enforcement, I heard. The sole purpose of controlling any narrative Obama/Clinton ordered him to do. Proof = he got her off no charges! IMO

Laskar

Great comment.

2impendingdoom

I have no fucking clue. Maybe the Comey boys were "boyscouts" and the rapist heard that they were into Howdy Doody rape fetish. At this point crazy wins.

Laskar

Operation Mockingbird.

And yet, people are still taken in by it.

quantokitty

WOW! One of the most important posts ever made on Voat.

This deserves digging into.

Laskar

Thanks. Have an upvote!

I think this is very important information, critical to understanding the level of corruption at the very least, but so much more.

How about the cops and the grand jury. Raping teens is okay?

2impendingdoom

Duh, rape is perfectly okay. Creeps can gang rape a girl and get praised by the judge, while the kid who uncovers the evidence gets prison. Remember the Steubenville football team story? Or any other lenient judge all across America giving rapists the "go out and do it again card". Its just another aspect of systemic corruption against the vulernable and innocent.

Awoke_AF

No shit. How has this not come up before?

quantokitty

Have no idea ... and the story ... so weird ... no way it's coincidental. Especially being around Halloween ...

cthulian_axioms

I'm with you on the story being really fuckin' weird, but to say that it's not a coincidence is ... well, to put it tactfully, it's an extraordinary claim; and I say this as a believer.

Let's break this down logically. If it was not a coincidence, then the only other conclusion is that would tend to suggest that 15-year-old James Comey was deliberately targeted. But how could they possibly have known who he would grow up to be? Are you suggesting that the demon inhabiting John Podesta's meat shell can somehow see into the future ? Because that's not the power of a demon, that's the power of a god.

Edit: Bless me, KEKU, for I have sinned. I have assumed a duality where no such thing exists. I will refine my mind, and improve its function, the better to serve the Elder Ones.

Godwillwin

some testimonies of anonymous insiders as well as victims say they keep tabs on "special" children for their secret organizations. I don't think that was the case with Comey but his dad could have been in the ring maybe? Maybe they covered for the ring? I don't know. There's so many ways to spin this when so little facts are known

cthulian_axioms

There's so many ways to spin this when so little facts are known

That's part of the fiendish perfection of this whole thing. It's been lurking just below the surface of our collective unconscious for so long , only spoken of in half-mad rumors, whispers of a nameless fear ... the facts just ain't there yet, they know this. And what facts there are, are so fucking out there that people are questioning their own sanity when they start believing what's right in front of them.

quantokitty

I believe there is a network that keeps tabs on children. How else would Obama have been plucked out and targeted for grooming? He was a lackluster, unremarkable child, but he was moldable, malleable, and very impressionable to suggestions. Look at his influences? A transgender prostitute for a nanny? A communist, pornographer that took nude photos of his mother a surrogate father? I mean, come on! Remember that the TPTB work hand-in-hand with the geniuses running Madison Avenue. Think predicting how people will react isn't a science? It's how they know what we guinea pigs will do before we do it. So how do we rein this subject in and make it relevant to your central query? (1) The Cannibal Elite know what type of trauma will trigger a given psychological effect. (2) They have an effective way of delivering it because they do control sanctioned factions and unsanctioned factors (i.e., Michael Aquino/Charles Manson enlistees. Read Maury Terry's book or Linda Blood. She as much as said that people in her cult were getting jobs as babysitters so they would have access to children). (2) They can replicate this trauma. That means the variable is taken out of the equation. They repeat this process on likely candidates and can measure how they react. From that group, they select the one that most conforms to their agenda. If you don't believe this, why else do you think a sweeping mass of children are being molested? Money, yes, but it's also to splinter a healthy psyche and produce a screwed-up. So many directions to go with a screwed-up one.

It's strange, but I've been watching Blindspot. It's funny how that show is bringing in and mingling some of these #pizzagate concepts/theories into its story lines. Like using foster children for pharmaceutical drug trials, human trafficking done to illegal border crossings, and, oh, yes, targeting a youngster and grooming him in this way. Kurt Weller, the effective head of his unit at the FBI was manipulated from his youth by the leader of this terrorist group. He doesn't know why, wasn't even aware it was being done, but this leader shaped and defined who he was by cataclysmic events.

You can believe what you like, but, yes, if you want a statue built a certain way, you shape it with your hands. If you want an individual built with certain characteristics, you shape their mind using the same process.

Godwillwin

Well said quanto

quantokitty

Thanks.

Tyranny-News-Network

As someone who's done a lot of research into the Sandy Hook event, I think the profiling of children may have been the underlying reason for the event. We've already seen legislation and rhetoric in favor of psych review of children in the 5-6 year age range. It's possible that they can detect something physiologically unique in kids at that age but requiring testing not possible without legislation granting them the right to test them.

quantokitty

I believe you're spot on in your assessment and comments. Absolutely, children are evaluated intellectually, but psychologically, there has to be a reason. Usually a psychiatric evaluation is personal, private, and with the family seeking help. You know, now that I'm thinking about it, there's a tremendous amount of bullying and violence being allowed on school grounds with no repercussions. It could be that they're trying to build up the bullies psychologically and trying to tear down kids that most likely are way smarter and could have amounted to something. I'm thinking of one story where a talented teen was beaten up in the girl's bathroom. She was repeatedly hit in the chest and the coroner concluded she died of a heart attack?!!! The criminals that actually murdered this girl got off with practically no prison time. Does anyone believe they're not going to cause trouble in the future? Especially when they go on social media and trash the victim?!!! What's happening is frightening, and it's reaffirming that #pizzagate and The Cannibal Elite being real.

equineluvr

Ocommie has ROYAL BLOODlines. That is why he became POTUS.

SoldierofLight

I'm certain that Obama's real name isn't even Soetoro and that's why I can't find him listed in Burkes Peerage ( http://www.burkespeerage.com/) ). Do you know what his real last name is, or his royal lineage name?

quantokitty

Royal? Ain't nothin' royal about that sack of shit.

cthulian_axioms

The Voatmins have to implement flair up in this bitch, because I'd have you tagged as "makes very astute and terrifying arguments".

quantokitty

Thanks. I hope I'm helping the cause. The thought of kids being hurt makes me ill.

cthulian_axioms

Oh you are, don't worry about that. Just now you put together a bunch of pieces for me very succinctly, and I will now be able to make better points in educating others. (Being a minister, I will often start with, "Okay, so demons are a thing ...")

2impendingdoom

demons can't be a thing, or it would be a no win and we must win. it is people acting demonically. I think for many of them drugs and alcohol escape, cover or suppress their conscience or pain, or let addictions drive the unconscionable behavior.

SoldierofLight

Demons are a thing. And we can win and we must win. And... we WILL win.

Godwillwin

Demons, the devil, evil are/is real. You have to respect that in order to defeat it. But God and good are more powerful. We have lost many battles but in the long run He shall triumph and we will triumph with Him. This battle is a BIG one. I now understand why the Blessed Mother Mary is always crying when she appears in medjugorie. She sees the evils perpetrated upon these children. She knows that many men and women have chosen to follow Satan rather than her son. She weeps for the children as well as for the loss of the souls who chose to be with Satan for eternity. They will never return to their Father in Heaven. We are all God's children, but as we can see, people such as Hillary, the Podesta's, Alefantis, Saville, Franklin, etc have chosen to turn away from their Father to join a new family. The Devil has them now. They chose him over God.

It's very obvious that demons exist. I can literally sense and see the devil in people. I've only been in their presence a handful of time, but I can see it in Alefantis, Podesta, and many more of them. You can literally see evil if you look closely.

cthulian_axioms

Oh you sweet, sweet summer child. I have some bad news and some good news for you.

The bad news is that there absolutely exist malevolent, non-human, non-terrestrial entities who possess supernatural powers and/or extremely advanced technology indistinguishable from magic. Whether we call them demons, aliens, star people, whatever, it doesn't really matter; the important fact is that these things exist, they are at best indifferent to human suffering, and they are in a lot of powerful places.

The good news is that these beings are neither immortal nor invincible. There are many stories, from many different cultures and times, of people defeating demons. This is not a no-win. That's what they want you to think . They can be beaten, and insha'KEKU they will be beaten.

There's more good news: We have help. There are other beings out there who are fond of humans, who want us to become more intelligent, more creative, more empathic, more clever, more powerful -- in short, They want us to become more like Them, because this is our birthright. These are called the Elder Gods, and They have been with us since the beginning. I mentioned I was a minister before -- the Elder Gods are the ones I serve. Some of Them are forgetful and very far away, but They can be entreated to remember the Covenant They made with our species in the First Day.

2impendingdoom

ha ha. you're funny. there are flat earthers here too, and a group who believe in giant bleeding bird mountains in antarctica.

cthulian_axioms

People are free to believe whatever they like, friend; and if it gets them through the day, then it works and they ought to keep doing it. That goes for you and me, too. I'm not going to try and convince you any more than I already have. You do what works for you, and what you think will be useful to the cause. I will do the same. Go in peace and power.

2impendingdoom

Kay Griggs talked at length about how "they" find high school/college corruptible kids and groom them into rising stars, so I don't think they knew Comey would be FBI Director, but his path to the highest levels would have been paved and cleared (as so many others at these high levels of gov.).

cthulian_axioms

Huh.

So what this was, was the .. how you say .. precipitating event, then?

2impendingdoom

I couldn't possibly guess. I suspect that a lot of kids are targeted but not all will respond in the proper manner. Maybe its the ones that get ass fucked and like it that get to be FBI Director or head of CIA

cthulian_axioms

Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. Gods, I wonder what "a lot" is. It's probably pretty much universal at elite private schools, so I guess that's "a lot"

2impendingdoom

It has, at least by me in comments, last fall, in all the Comey speculation threads.

quantokitty

Can I just say to never bury news like this in comments. If you make a comment like this, please, everyone, please start its own thread.

2impendingdoom

The brother Peter Comey was/is tax lawyer for DBL Piper in charge of Clinton Foundation taxes. I thought this was all posted last Fall/December.

Godwillwin

Wow. The web just gets deeper and deeper

AngB23

What?! Ummm...that's pretty damn important info. Thanks for reposting

quantokitty

It may have been, but I don't remember seeing this.

2impendingdoom

There have been so many great threads and contributions in comments, I know its impossible to keep track of all of it. :)