First thank you for the time and effort and please don't let my comments discourage you. I have a problem understanding your logic about how "there can't be such a huge difference in the amount of pedophiles between states". Knowing that there are different types of child molesters and that some of those types like to band together in groups and that some types prefer to live in area were ease of access is high and will move to reside in such a location. Remember, ease of access can not be defined by population level alone. What do you use to support the assumption that percentage per population should be close to the same state to state? I do agree that greater efforts need to be employed in reporting and tracking these numbers and that there are uncountable cases of cover ups. Keep up the good work.
This is an important note, thanks. As stated in the conclusions, there are States where the same victims are used by several pedos (more organized crime) but even that doesn't manage to explain the difference in this scale (28 times more between the both ends of the list).
The amount of pedophilia (assumed close to similar) doesn't match with "percentage per population should be close to the same" (it shouldn't, noting the organized aspect). What would be required to believe that the data was accurate, would be that there's 28 pedophiles for one victim against 1 pedophile for one victim in each end, and I really don't think that's possible. The gap is simply too wide, indicating false reporting.
People should be made fully aware of the seriousness of the problem
People should demand (local press, marches, petitions) stronger actions and better prosecution processes especially for the elite rings. And honest reporting too. While missing these, the public trust will stay low and reporting cases to the authorities won't take place
Slowly (decade or so), the trust towards authorities could be returned and more cases get reported, more prosecuted, more convicted, starting to bite the problem itself
So, step by step. Awareness is the first. We can't solve a problem lasting decades in a year. Pizzagate is not actually a discovery, it's just another scandal within a longer period of time of organized child rapes. The cover-ups started in WW2 (U.S. Army officials & Japan army officials diplomatic co-ops to not reveal child abuse and to not prosecute the criminals in either side), if not even earlier. Pizzagate offers more indicators of the problem itself, eventually revealing everything to the daylight.
I believe that those number should be way higher. My ex girlfriend told me she was abused by her grandfather. He died and she never reported it. Also, many people are abused more than once.
Me too, clearly higher. I'd use multipliers between 30-40 in the States in the bottom of the list to get closer to the true amount of cases. But this is an opinion, while multiplier 8 for the national amount is suggested by the data.
I'm impressed you would take the time and effort to do this. Good job. I'm terrible with numbers so I need to ask what does your research have to say about Virginia. We already know VA has an unusually high % of missing children. I wonder if NCMEC breaks out its stats along the lines of sex abuse and if their numbers are reliable at all.
It seems like that Virginia is reporting almost 5 times more cases to the public than what the feds forward as report to the public.
I guess people will find several similar indicators of possible false reporting for several States, when searching for local level data and compare it to above. Recommending.
Virginia being in the bottom of the list indicates problems in reporting there. I edited some more conclusions into the post after your question (thanks for asking). And thanks, any efforts and time used for making the kids life safer anyhow are always worth it.
▼ anonOpenPress
@Aaronkin @jstrotha0975 @Pizzalawyer
I just resubmitted this due to deletion for missing link: /v/pizzagate/1857604 , please resubmit your valuable comments there. Sorry for double work
▼ jstrotha0975
You could just edit the original post and add the link.
▼ anonOpenPress
No I couldn't (editing not possible after deletion) so I just posted it again
▼ anonOpenPress
@Millennial_Falcon Sorry for missing the links for now, but did you read the footnote "Note to the mods:" before deciding to delete this?
Yes I went against the rules, knowingly, but I did explain why and asked for understanding in advance. Sad now.
▼ Aaronkin
First thank you for the time and effort and please don't let my comments discourage you. I have a problem understanding your logic about how "there can't be such a huge difference in the amount of pedophiles between states". Knowing that there are different types of child molesters and that some of those types like to band together in groups and that some types prefer to live in area were ease of access is high and will move to reside in such a location. Remember, ease of access can not be defined by population level alone. What do you use to support the assumption that percentage per population should be close to the same state to state? I do agree that greater efforts need to be employed in reporting and tracking these numbers and that there are uncountable cases of cover ups. Keep up the good work.
▼ anonOpenPress
This is an important note, thanks. As stated in the conclusions, there are States where the same victims are used by several pedos (more organized crime) but even that doesn't manage to explain the difference in this scale (28 times more between the both ends of the list).
The amount of pedophilia (assumed close to similar) doesn't match with "percentage per population should be close to the same" (it shouldn't, noting the organized aspect). What would be required to believe that the data was accurate, would be that there's 28 pedophiles for one victim against 1 pedophile for one victim in each end, and I really don't think that's possible. The gap is simply too wide, indicating false reporting.
One indicator of false reporting is also presented in another comment /v/pizzagate/1857321/9094183
▼ jstrotha0975
What about all the sexual abuse that never gets reported?
▼ anonOpenPress
Considering a solution to that, it's a long road.
So, step by step. Awareness is the first. We can't solve a problem lasting decades in a year. Pizzagate is not actually a discovery, it's just another scandal within a longer period of time of organized child rapes. The cover-ups started in WW2 (U.S. Army officials & Japan army officials diplomatic co-ops to not reveal child abuse and to not prosecute the criminals in either side), if not even earlier. Pizzagate offers more indicators of the problem itself, eventually revealing everything to the daylight.
▼ jstrotha0975
I believe that those number should be way higher. My ex girlfriend told me she was abused by her grandfather. He died and she never reported it. Also, many people are abused more than once.
▼ anonOpenPress
Very sorry for your ex-girlfriend awful experience. Hope one day nobody will experience that.
▼ jstrotha0975
Yeah i'm sorry for her too, even though she treated me like crap.
▼ anonOpenPress
An experience like that might get her to treat several men wrong. I hope she gets over that
▼ anonOpenPress
Me too, clearly higher. I'd use multipliers between 30-40 in the States in the bottom of the list to get closer to the true amount of cases. But this is an opinion, while multiplier 8 for the national amount is suggested by the data.
▼ Pizzalawyer
I'm impressed you would take the time and effort to do this. Good job. I'm terrible with numbers so I need to ask what does your research have to say about Virginia. We already know VA has an unusually high % of missing children. I wonder if NCMEC breaks out its stats along the lines of sex abuse and if their numbers are reliable at all.
▼ anonOpenPress
I just had another look... Problems in reporting in VA seems far more serious, another official source reports 2,954 minor victims of forcible sex in 2014 (page 23: http://www.vsp.virginia.gov/downloads/Crime_in_Virginia/Crime_in_Virginia_2014.pdf ) compared to 653 reported by the feds (the data in my post) for the next year.
It seems like that Virginia is reporting almost 5 times more cases to the public than what the feds forward as report to the public.
I guess people will find several similar indicators of possible false reporting for several States, when searching for local level data and compare it to above. Recommending.
▼ anonOpenPress
Virginia being in the bottom of the list indicates problems in reporting there. I edited some more conclusions into the post after your question (thanks for asking). And thanks, any efforts and time used for making the kids life safer anyhow are always worth it.
▼ Pizzalawyer
You're welcome. We should probably look at Maryland as well since it embraces DC almost as much as VA.