The "red pill" effect - Is it working? ( pizzagate )

submitted by jstrotha0975

This is related to Pizzagate because the whole point of Pizzagate VOAT is to bring awareness and wake up the masses. Description of the meaning "red pill" and "blue pill". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill I've noticed over the last few months an increase in traffic at the church I attend. What really got my attention was that a lot of the increased traffic is young hipsters with tattoos and the hoops in their ears. I'm not trying to bad mouth anyone, but those kind of people usually aren't the types to worship God. Church attendance has to be up around 10-15% OVER LAST YEAR, I've only been going to that church for a little over a year. Could it be Trumps new executive order on religious freedom? http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/332108-trumps-religious-freedom-executive-order-can-be Trump says we must worship God and not the Gubmint http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-america-worships-god-not-government/article/2623027 It's not just with religion and church either. I've noticed an increased number of people not afraid to speak their minds in public ignoring the politically correct status quo http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/01/24/black-trump-supporter-stands-in-middle-of-womens-march-and-absolutely-goes-off-on-shocked-crowd/ https://www.infowars.com/video-crazed-leftist-wants-alex-jones-killed-for-brainwashing-people/ Even some of the media have had enough of the bias fad http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/10/maxine_waters_i_dont_support_trump_firing_comey_i_would_support_hillary_clinton_firing_comey.html http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/liberal-media-turns-itself-nyt-promoses-rededicate-itself-honest-reporting So what do you guys think? Are any of you witnessing an awakening against the elite?

icuntstopswearing

I submitted a thread a couple of months ago about redpilling church goers. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1699393 They are just the demographic to target - mostly conservative with a developed sense of right and wrong. In a way this is a spiritual war - and if Christians were made to believe that their country is being run by Satanists/Lucifarians - a real groundswell might just give pizzagate the critical mass to break out from being a tin-hat conspiracy theory.

ByTheBook

I've been doing a survey of my local churches. Most aren't likely receptive to the idea. I've noticed sinister iconography among many of them.

Granted I live in a fairly wealthy area. Monied people are less likely to make the sacrifices to the status quo necessary to affect change. Some are likely involved. There are masons in my nearest church for example.

icuntstopswearing

Those not involved have got a lot to lose by speaking out. Those involved...well they can just carry on

jstrotha0975

It's a good idea, but I would say that my congregation is split about 50/50 between liberal and conservative. Plus it's a church and many of them are old so how do I bring up the subject? Yeah the game was great last night, by the way have you heard about the pedophilia that is running rampant in DC?

icuntstopswearing

It's the preachers and pastors that need to be redpilled.Then they can bring it up in church in a sermon or prayers. I know some are corrupt, but they are the only figures in authority that have not been totally compromised. Forget the MSM, police and politicians - concentrate on those in the Good vs Evil business - it's their job for God's sake!

jstrotha0975

I feel that a lot of people that go to church don't want to hear about politics, I know I don't. Some Pastors are awake, some asleep, some opposition. My church doesn't have a permanent pastor, they rotate every week. We had a woman that instead of giving a sermon decided to tell us about how she went to the woman's march the Sunday after the election (the one where they wore pussy hats) and tell us how those are just poor people trying to have their voices heard. Then afterward she had the nerve to comment on how much she loved our congregation and we are great and would never tell anyone what she talked about. She hasn't been back since.

DriftingDevoid

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." Matthew 7:13-14

SoSpricyHotDog

In general I don't think an "awakening" is happening yet... I feel like the leaks have certainly started a fire in people's minds that is spreading slowly, but, for the masses? A leak is still not enough. I speak with people about this regularly and the consensus from those who remain ignorant is that this is all "hard to believe" and an "impossible conspiracy theory" - even with subjects that are blatantly proven to be true in the leaks, people don't believe it. Even with precedents set by previous arrests/court cases that graphically depict the kind of abuse we try to stop, they don't believe it.

The awakening needs to be something that shatters the conception and forces these people to acknowledge how depraved the powers that be actually are... like, literally concrete evidence so impossible to ignore, it makes it to the homepage of CNN.com with actual politicians/elites being named/charged and their crimes detailed.

Until then? It's a slow, slow burn fuse. The time frame of our current awakening is the polar opposite of nano-thermite.

jstrotha0975

The only true red pill is evidence, which none of us have.

Marfa-Lights

Agreed, the true red pill would be 911....

SoSpricyHotDog

Agreed! That's where the elite excel and we're completely dependent on whistle blowers and leaks in between connecting the dots/information.

There are chunks of the story that seemed like we had a good chance:

  • The server location in Hawaii (off the grid, separate networks)
  • The CP allegedly hacked from CPP's private domain
  • The lack of any explanation behind the leaked emails/messages pertaining to questionable behavior (namely the Luzzato pool party and the pizza related hankerchief)

A lot of smoke, but, no ability to illustrate the fire/source.

It is frustrating for sure.

Cigarette5mokingman

Idk how new you are to the "conspiracy" movement in general, but I've heard at least 50 different researchers, whistleblowers, conspiracy theorists, radio show hosts, etc saying the exact same thing over the last 25 years. Something like "there is a mass awakening happening" Not to say it isn't actually happening, I have no metrics to base on either way, but I'm just trying to establish that this has been said over and over and over again over the years. Imo, there is no awakening happening. The mass majority of people are CHOOSING to remain ignorant, regardless of the ease of access to information nowadays. And since you asked, that's my 2 cents.

fartyshorts

The discussions are WAY more common, though. I hear random acquaintances bring up 9-11. People are waking up to the feeling that something is wrong with the world, that things are not as they should or at least could be. They just don't know quite why yet...

jstrotha0975

New to the "conspiracy" movement? I've been on board since Bob Lazar, Phil Schnider, and Bill Cooper.

Cigarette5mokingman

Just out of curiosity, we're you listening to Billy Goodman in the late 80s?

jstrotha0975

No, I was born in 79 and only got interested around the late 80's when Lazar came out, and then the UFO boom of the 90's.

Cigarette5mokingman

I see, was just asking because you mentioned John Lear Bob Lazar and bill cooper, all of whom started their "careers" in conspiracy on the Billy Goodman Happening radio program back in the late 80s.

jstrotha0975

I believe Lazar, Cooper, and Schneider were real. I never heard Goodmans radio show, I know Art Bell took it over. I was young and didn't have access to a computer until 1999. I knew about these guys and Art Bell from the TV shows. I know you are a LARPer pretending to be Cancer Man from the X-files, that I watched religiously and know some of the episodes were based on reality.

Cigarette5mokingman

Excuse my ignorance but wtf is a larper. Quick search defines it as "A live action role-playing game (LARP) is a form of role-playing game where the participants physically act out their characters' actions."

Is that what you mean?

I honestly don't understand that statement. The x files were based in reality, as Chris Carter has admitted to using bill cooper's behold a pale horse as inspiration for the show.

Bill cooper is was and always will be my hero. I have reservations when it comes to the others mentioned.

jstrotha0975

"BASED ON REALITY" which means some things were changed and added. Yes, that is the LARP I mean. You are pretending to be a gubmint agent spreading disinformation.

Cigarette5mokingman

I'm not pretending to be anything, just use the screen name as I am a big fan of the show myself.

jstrotha0975

Why the hell would you use Cancer Man?

Cigarette5mokingman

Good mysterious character. I also have a thing for unnamed characters in stories. Like the man with no name in the good the bad and the ugly.

Cigarette5mokingman

Also, I never said you were new to the conspiracy movement. What I said was "I DON'T KNOW how new you are to the conspi....."

jstrotha0975

Yes I misread that but am too lazy to remove my reply.

JeremiahSinclair

Dude, the guy was just point out his own experience, he wasn't attacking you. Calling him a twat is uncalled for and makes you look like a hyper-aggressive jerk. Take it easy, save that for when you're ACTUALLY being attacked.

jstrotha0975

There, I deleted the word twat.

JeremiahSinclair

Just my two cents.

Judgejewdy

They teach you that in church?

jstrotha0975

No, they taught me that in Queens.

carmencita

The religions and their houses of worship are what have caused a lot of our problems.Many of their leaders are involved in either the sex trafficking, raping, organ harvesting in any of these or all of them. I really don't believe attendance is on the rise, but if it is attributed to hipsters, I find it even harder to believe. People are leaving religions by the droves.and people that do not identify with any religion now is up to 20%, but I believe many more just do not attend.