Donald Trump is in " fighting mood" with a "scorched earth" mindset now because he's been pushed too hard - and that spells big big trouble for the 'globalists.' ( pizzagate )

submitted by HollandDrive

Ignore Alex Jones here. This is just a comment by Roger Stone, who knows Trump well. It's just a minute or two.

https://youtu.be/rRqdqIfujPg?t=423

Yeah I know who the ((( globalists ))) are. Yeah I don't care for Alex Jones. But I do like dirty trickster Roger Stone, and haven't given up on Trump. I guess I want him to blow the place apart, come what may. This is getting old. Too big to jail.

I hope Trump says to hell with the "agenda" and starts playing hardball. Quit being overly concerned about a "legacy." Even if it gets ugly and he's a one-term president. (No I don't believe he was "selected.")

FuckReddit69

Accomplishments? Like what? He signed a few executive orders his masters made him do? He mentioned human tracfficking a few times on camera?

What accomplishments and how have they helped average people like you and I?

QuantumSquad

That's how I see it too. It's spiritual warfare

Tribulation coming?

FuckReddit69

Soooo, your line of reasoning is: because Trump is more successful in making money than I am, he must not be a Zionist puppet?

That's some mighty undeniable logic you got there son.

HollandDrive

Funny, we've discussed that before here, because some lose hope. I could say a lot on this but not now, only that I agree, and that good times are ahead ... I can't say that there won't be societal and economic turmoil in the interim, but it may be a fire that cleanses and burns away the dross.

FuckReddit69

"Makes no sense" -yea right. I used to think the Flat Earth theory made no sense too, then i looked into it. Long story short, im a flat earther.

Come back to me in a year and tell me if anything on your list of things that make sense changes.

MONOLITHicide

become a land surveyor and still think the earth is flat. morons. i have to learn equations that correct the error in my traverse over a certain distance because of the curvature of the earth. the earth is a geoide not a sphere.

HollandDrive

i have to learn equations that correct the error in my traverse over a certain distance because of the curvature of the earth

Well you're the first I've ever heard on this. How do you DO that. There is an abundance of testimony, going back at least a century, from surveyors and engineers that they do NOT adjust for any nonsensical "curve." So I guess water "bends"? And curves? Maybe you can help this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGx1zs0k4qw

MONOLITHicide

the curve is so great on a horizontal plane the adjustment is minimal. how about you read into surveying societies and the math. i can look at a sky map of all satalites on my data collector showing there placement around the earth.

HollandDrive

The curvature chart from NASA is easily debunk-able. Here it is (below). There is no detectable curve. There is no detectable spin. It's actually quite simple. And because you're not supposed to see Chicago from a certain distance, because this very curve chart says so, look how foolish this weatherman looks trying to convince the viewers that they're actually looking at a mirage ... and not the actual skyline, of Chicago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLlNKy5j_O8

https://aplanetruth.info/2015/07/03/measuring-the-non-curvature-of-the-earth-basic-spherical-geometry/

awakenaware

Don't get me started on FE.. Yea theres a lot of truth to it. All my heros of old turned out to be BS. I remain hopeful with Trump.. Hes an enigma. Shit aint black and white. Hes kinda like a rouge agent to me. Loves the limelight and seems to have many enemies in the establishment.. I feel Hillary was the chosen one. He was supposed to be the clown, but he went awol. Still his hands are tied. He has kids. A beautiful wife and so on. So they can control him. I almost think this whole pizzagate thing is orchestrated from higher up as a divide and conquer thing. A drama to occupy our hearts and minds. Everything about this reality seems to be geared towards keeping us occupied and fighting something. Keeping us coming back lifetime after lifetime.. Its a human farm.

badgertime33

Dude, you fell too far down the rabbit hole and got lost. It happens. Dont be overly paranoid, it's not healthy. Step away from conspiracy for a bit of you have to, but once you reach flat-earth levels of crazy, the cognitive dissonance is on full display.

FuckReddit69

Sure thing mr.33

HollandDrive

No, he's correct about the earth. What's crazy is that it's blowing up the internet, for a reason, The redpilling is becoming exponential. Just act like it's a big joke and watch a few videos. I thought it was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard of, but no longer.

badgertime33

I've watched. It's total nonsense. Know a false argumebt when you see one. Know a psyop when you seen one.

HollandDrive

Suit yourself. No problem.

HollandDrive

How many times do I have to tell people about the damn flat earth. We've been fooled on a massive scale. (Thanks.) People check into it and the truth will set you free. NASA is complete BS. Don't think of it as "flat earth" people. Think of it as do you REALLY think we're on a spinning ball with China under us and ocean's aren't flying off and the sun and moon just happen to coincidentally be just the right distance from each other (which nobody can agree on) to be the same size and that planes adjust for the curve as they fly around it. Etc.

HollandDrive

I'm with you.

HollandDrive

Not much. The country is on life support, and has been for decades. Soros is trying to finish us off, and they want Russia too.

Mad_As_Hell

Learn from Europe's mistakes people. It's too late for us, MAGA the hell out of it and take down as many globalists as you can https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-16-2015/OyFizX.gif

FuckReddit69

How do you know his calling out of the media isnt designed ? For some purpose we have yet to see ? That means squat. What has that accomplished exactly, we still have idiots watching the idiot box.

HollandDrive

This is what he needs, the support of the people. If he goes down swinging, I think his 'base' could give a rat's behind whether he gets anything done.

That alone will be getting something done, however messy it may be. And it may get messy. Like Samson pulling down the pillars, taking his own life at the same time (though I do hope for a better outcome/scenario than that).

FuckReddit69

I wouldn't idol a man and put so much faith in him. You seem to be overestimating him (whateverD chess). I strongly believe he was put in place because something huge is gonna go down and he's gonna take the heat for it- whatever that may be. He's the ultimate Divide and Conquer president. You either hate him or love him- and that's exactly by design. Not saying he's a complete idiot, but he's just an actor playing his part.

Let's be logical here for a minute. If every president post-JFK was selected and our world is pretty much ran by an unknown elite pedo-satanic cabal, even till this day, who's to say Trump is any different? Is he actually doing anything that's clear proof that he's not an insider working towards their agenda? Assuming they control practically everything , do you think they would have let him get that far if he wasn't a plant?

HollandDrive

If every president post-JFK was selected and our world is pretty much ran by an unknown elite pedo-satanic cabal, even till this day, who's to say Trump is any different?

But who's to say he's not? Stuff happens. I believe the TPTB are on a leash, a long leash yes, but a leash still. I never thought they would give him the keys to the kingdom, but they had no choice. To believe the Trump phenomenon was completely planned, I think is to ignore the empirical evidence.

And I'm as much a conspiracy nut as anyone (I prefer conspiracy analyst).

GhostOfSwartz

Ha! I'm using that. Conspiracy analyst! That's me!

FuckReddit69

Maybe, maybe not. I'm gonna go ahead and Occam's razor this one.

HollandDrive

I hear you. Truth be told. likely all of them have been selected, earlier than JFK ... he just seems to be one who bucked the system, he was young, naive, idealistic, and Utopian, and surrounded by leftover Eisenhower admin warmongers. Didn't stand a chance. Some of the military chief of staff actually truly believed he was a National Security threat, being soft on communism ... some of them thought it their duty to take him out, some say. His kid brother tried to take on the mafia. Dumb.

BirdLaw

I'm out of the loop. What's going on with Trump? Why are people "giving up" on him? It seems every week the media has a new "Is this the end of Trump's presidency?" or "New Russian connection, we swear this is real!"

HollandDrive

That's the point. "You start taking more flak the closer you are to the target."

There's been nothing but stories, one after another, with no proof, just "sources." From the establishment. It really is a witch hunt.

BirdLaw

Is it true that Alex Jones has officially given up on Trump? I was told that by someone earlier tonight.

HollandDrive

Of course Alex is a controversial figure here on Voat, but the answer is apparently no ... I highly doubt it, whoever AJ really is.

Mbailey63

Agree once he gets his feet grounded he will level that city.

jstrotha0975

Trump should have taken his gloves off on day one.

equineluvr

More theatre for the stupid sheeple.

All the world's a stage.

HollandDrive

If so, it would have to enter some kind of spiritual level, some spiritual element, in that men, even ((( these ))) men, aren't quite that bright, there has to be a diabolical, ergo supernatural, element and back-game to this 'stage' and the players thereon. I agree that it is indeed a stage.

2impendingdoom

They wouldn't be so viciously against him if they had him in their pocket.

pby1000

Yes, Trump has never behaved like he is afraid of being blackmailed. I can only guess that they have nothing on him.

Obama, on the other hand,...

pizzaequalspedo

Exactly. The retards who say he's controlled by the Zionists/GS just like all previous POTUS's couldn't be more wrong and can't be very bright.

2impendingdoom

they want us to give up

HollandDrive

Exactly. Makes no sense. Gingrich just today advised him (via a radio interview) to quit having press conferences, quit paying attention to the MSM, he doesn't need them, he has social media. (I think Trump possibly believed he could redeem them (MSM), if that's the case, he's going to be pissed because he was spurned.)

And I think Trump, as Stone says, has tried to be "bi-partisan," for the sake of his agenda, but it's getting quite old. He's a brawler and he punches back hard. I'd like to see it happen. Thanks for the comment.

Freemasonsrus

Trump has a big heart but also a big ego when it comes to his ability to make a deal and win people over. He really is different in person but turns on for cameras. Those two things, along with snakes in the grass taking advantage of both, have caused the chaos by having people in WH who are sabotaging with leaks. I think the thing that makes the globalist actually shit their pants IS his unpredictability. He has the ability to get his hands on intel that sends all of them to jail and instead of playing ball, they decided their best path was to go to war with him. Big mistake. Huge.

4_InquiringMinds

Trump has a big heart

So big that he bombed Yemen killing lots of civilians, approved a massive arms sale to SA to kill more in Yemen, bombed Syria killing even more, bombed in Iraq killing even more, who knows how many really killed in Afghanistan (lotta beautiful babies killed with those bombs)...yep, one big heart alright.

So tell me please, if that is your idea of a big heart what is your definition of a dark heart? Killing, maiming, mutilating is not my idea of heart. Is his heart big enough to foot the bill for prosthesis for all the limbs blown off? And please none of this going after isis bs.

MolochHunter

dont be a fuckn DOLT. This is the military industrial complex. IT bombs whoever the fuck it decides to, then the 'president' of the day has to pretend it was his idea or be revealed as powerless.

Wake up. Hillary caused the Libya war against obamas wishes. Geddit? Trump got nutn to do with the ACTUAL decisions on syria or yemen - or the next place they bomb

HollandDrive

Yes, he's different in private. Don't feel obligated ... he's hilarious here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G2vhi4J6gg

Are_we_sure

quit paying attention to the MSM, he doesn't need them, he has social media. (I think Trump possibly believed he could redeem them (MSM)

He craves their attention. This is a man who used to plant stories in the ny tabloids about how Madonna or Lady Di we're trying to date him

VFoster93

How's yer butt buddy Dave Brock doing, Are_we_sure? Those heart attack guns aren't as efficient as they're cracked up to be. Too bad.

HollandDrive

Lol. I don't know about those stories (wouldn't surprise me though), but you're right, that's an impediment for him, the attention part, that would be, or is, his Achilles Heel. Probably why Gingrich was talking about it. But hey, a guy can change right? Trump's not the same man he was just a few years ago.

Oh, and maybe they were trying to date him. I don't think that Lady Di would be his type, though I can see him planting the story. I could never figure out what people saw in that girl.

PGIz___Retarded

Good luck waiting for those FBI agents to talk.

2impendingdoom

Thanks for the post.