The1stLantern

I'd happily wear an American flag suit on that day in his honor.

themushmouth

I uploaded the image in case nobody got it.

https://imgtc.com/i/qqCjSjM.jpg

pig_lifter

Curious, has the family done any pushing back on this fake gov't operative that is speaking for them?

I_have_my_gun_ready

Only push back I've seen from the parents was a YouTube video a few days ago, THANKING ALL Internet sluths for trying to help find Seth's murder. Which was.posted AFTER Brad Bauman put out a statement saying the family wanted to be left alone, and asked everyone to leave Seth's murder investigation to the police. They were pro most likely threatened to shut up after that, because they haven't said a word to the public since.

weewaawooba

I am glad you call us realistic people normies.

I_have_my_gun_ready

I also don't believe for a minute that Seth's parents are being paid off to keep quiet. After Brad Bauman came out and "claimed" the family wanted to be left alone and said Seth had nothing to do with Wikileaks, Seth's parents posted a video THANKING everyone online for trying to help find Seth's killers. Seth's poor mom almost broke down talking about it. There's NO way Seth's parents are being bought off. They obvously want the people the people that murdered their son to be brought to justice too!

Verite1

Apparently that video was from April though a month before the brother pleaded for the media to stop promoting the story and before Fox retracted it

I_have_my_gun_ready

Something's wrong with Andy Rich's tweet to Jonathan. First off, I can understand why Jonathan tweetied about his cousin's strange death. He wanting to tell people to KEEP DIGGING! But Andy's response is VERY strange. If you want to keep matters private and NOT DRAW ATTENTION to it, you DON'T TWEET BACK (I'm paraphraseing) KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. You'd call your cousin up on the phone and tell them to keep quiet. You'd only tweet them back if you WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION to the original tweet. I believe the family is being FORCED to keep quiet, about what's going on. The higher ups at the DNC's maybe threating to kill another one of their kids, or hurt someone if they go public (?).

2impendingdoom

Andy is Jonathans brother and cousin to Seth and Aaron.

nitro169

They have recordings of Seth talking about it with his parents, they are being threatened with aiding espionage if what Seth did goes public, that's my guess, so let's get it public that Seth was the wiki leaker!

Silverlining

DNC is not the State [except in its own mind!] It would amount to breach of confidence and a civil not criminal matter, surely. Theft of information might amount to a criminal offence.

weewaawooba

Maybe he was just very emotional. I don't think your analysis is adequate.

I_have_my_gun_ready

I don't doubt he's emotional. But his brother died almost a year ago, and even though it can take years to work through something like this. He seems to be pretty level headed in his tweet, and doesn't seem likely to pop off a tweet to his cousin when he knows the world is looking careful at his brothers murder.

equineluvr

And if you're Lyn de Rothschild, you don't admonish Skippy via Tweet. You'd call him up.

Unless EVERYTHING ON TWITTER IS A PSYOP FOR THE SHEEPLE'S CONSUMPTION. Twitter s just another propaganda medium like television.

I_have_my_gun_ready

Oh, once the Rothschilds think this pizzagate/ Seth Rich investigation has died down, Skippy's DEAD. The Rothschilds hold him personally responsible for a lot of this mess. Because he gave out value information in his emails. If Skippy was smart he'd join us, and help expose what's been going on. He's very stupid to think he'll be ever be forgiven, or allowed back in the fold.

PizzaGateDiscovery

I have questions about Seth Rich and pandas. When did the panda come into play? When his posts were discovered? When his parents went on youtube?

Since Pandas has a connection to pedophilia, did he really carry a panda around or was he trying to tell us something with his chosen username for posting? Does anyone have all his posting usernames?

I_have_my_gun_ready

I read that Seth's nickname was Panda. Because he was a big and sweet bear of a guy.

PizzaGateDiscovery

Were his parents covering up his panda clue with all that talk about Seth's love for pandas? Or was his fixation on pandas really innocent?

All those Disney characters in the background of the parents youtube were weird.

Could Seth have been a victim at some point?

I_have_my_gun_ready

Yeah..No. Your way off track on this one. There is ABSOLUTELY NO evidence to support any of your ideas.

weewaawooba

Awesome. Assume things as facts, draw more assumptions, turn them into facts again .. you can get anywhere with your methology. I can make a connection between the most absurd things.

MysticMa

They are from Middle America and there r people who really love a certain animal that have no knowledge of an alt. meaning. Same with Disney characters or fantasy game or comic. Some of us here were already awake and aware, yet many are at various degrees of the rabbit hole. It does give "Pause" but our little knowledge of the Rich family should not be summed up to an automatic negative. I have no doubt, "IF" there are stains... it will all come out in the wash!

sugarskull

What a find!!! His brother was FULLY LAUGHING ON CAMERA so there has been something with him from the get go. He might be the weakest link and could have a mountain of evidence to share.

SoldierofLight

I think he might be the weakest link too, but for a different reason. At first I thought he was trying not to laugh, but when I watched the video on a full screen I noticed tears in his eyes. Who is ever prepared for their brother to be murdered in the prime of their life? And no, one year is not enough time to "get over it." I think he's under tremendous pressure because of his grief, but also because he knows stuff, or suspects it. But the messaging he's getting-- probably from his parents, the handler, and maybe scary guys in suits with badges and guns, is to shut the fuck up. He might be feeling ripped in half-- knowing he's in danger if he talks (look what happened to his brother) but wanting to do right by his brother. I think he's on the verge of a mental breakdown. That's why I agree with you when you say:

He might be the weakest link and could have a mountain of evidence to share.

charmeuse

I just have a gut feeling that the brother may be somewhat developmentally disabled, which may account for his oddly inappropriate emotions as seen in the video.

cult_of_philanthropy

Why assume election/voter fraud was the only information leaked in those emails? Given the voracity of MSM and others trying to shut down SR and PG investigations, I have to wonder what other information may have been in those emails.

privatepizza

It's fair to believe that many DNC and Podesta emails re PG have been held back. As has been alluded to, they could cause civil and international war. To release them would be suicide for the world when the masses (and gov services), aren't ready.

A drip drip drip, hint hint hint here and there to get the word out in digestible form , would be the most humane and sensible way to awaken people to what is real. As @darkmath and many have said, the awakening isn't going to be easy and could lead to a mass psychological, international epidemic.

I believe Seth knew very well what was happening with PG. He had to.

Verite1

I don't believe so. My instinct is just saying he knows about the election fraud. Why would you have to email exchanges that allude to PG?

privatepizza

Idk.... I wonder why he would know about one compartment of corruption but not the other.

2impendingdoom

i wouldn't have know the food code, I didn't know the food code or panda being code. if you're not looking for it, you just shrug it off as weird but not criminal.

privatepizza

that's a very good point..

Silverlining

It does make more sense that the hit was to prevent further very damaging disclosure. It is pure vindictiveness kill someone for merely leaking emails.

Normal people would fire him, ruin his career and involve the police. He must have - at the very least - been believed to have some VERY damaging information.

If he had threatened to blow the lid on pizzagate and couldn't be bribed or blackmailed, then burial is the logical option.

privatepizza

True.. remember when Hillary mentioned that she didn't want to have a conversation over email with JP due to 'email elves' ? They knew, and knew he must have had everything.

DarkMath

"I believe Seth knew very well what was happening with PG. He had to."

Well said. Seth must have known. And he also must have known he was taking a real risk since he was working in the belly of the beast.

The severity of the crimes must be why all these characters did what they did. And it's why I post here without an ounce of fear. I have to post here because unless we all do something about this we're all dead or will soon change addresses to the nearest Concentration Camp Fusion Center.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller

:-D

privatepizza

Truth ^^^^^

DarkMath

That it is. And thanks for that comment because it inspired me to write EDIT 2:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1883864#submissionTop

More people need to know who Martin Niemöller is.

:-)

Commoner

The family is afraid. The brother knows he will be suicide most likely. What parents would want to lose another child. That is why Sean, not only mentioned the parents on his show last nite, but he focused on the brother, too. And not only the brother, but the brother's GOFUND me. That family needs protection .

Silverlining

If you were that afraid, would you engage a PI - even if "sworn to secrecy"?

I_have_my_gun_ready

The PI was hired months ago, before this case blew up.

jangles

HERE IS the archived link to the twitter thread. http://archive.is/d2qd0

2impendingdoom

thanks, I do believe that the cousins and the tweets are valid, I just try in general to approach all new info with some skepticism, scrutiny, critical analysis so that we don't end up suckered by fraudulent activity or disinfo.

quantokitty

Seth Rich's case is central to #pizzagate. ANYTHING in that original Wikileaks email drop absolutely falls under this heading. Pedosta clearly states to make an example of whoever is leaking. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it ... HEY! A lightbulb just went on. This:

‘I’m Definitely For Making an Example of a Suspected Leaker'

Okay, if Pedosta thought the Russians were hacking into the DNC, why oh why, was he suggesting to make an example of the leaker? By his own words, he's saying that the leaking was coming from WITHIN the DNC and not from the outside.

And he didn't get any pushback on this. Nobody said, "We can't do that, Skippy, we can't get to the Russians." The fact that everyone was on board with this notion of the DNC having leak means everyone there knew it!

V____Z

I think in a court of law, the added "even if there's no basis for it" could be used a a defense. He could claim, see? I am saying i don't know for sure.

quantokitty

No, he's saying the opposite. He's saying even if there isn't a basis, let's go ahead and make someone an example, anyway. Usually, you need evidence to convict someone, but not the Pedostas.

4warned

For sure! And if he suspects the Russians, why isn't he pushing for a thorough investigation into Seth Rich's murder? Wouldn't he be thinking it was the 'Russians who bumped off Seth '? But he knows they didn't.

Verite1

Ah Ha, YES! Lightbulb!

quantokitty

Excellent point! Think someone should start tweeting that all over the place!

4warned

Thanks!

V____Z

I agree! This is a red pill.

PizzaGateDiscovery

Excellent Point! Not even Podesta believes it was the Russians.

quantokitty

Absolutely ... and no one called him on it.

2impendingdoom

And another thing, if Podesta thought he was being hacked by Russians why didn't he call the FBI about it, and why didn't he insist that they upgrade their security? Also, did he know that HRC had a basement server? Seems pretty sloppy on Podesta's part, for someone who was allegedly tech savvy.

pig_lifter

There's nothing tech savvy about that idiot. He's just among stupid old baldheads who know absolutely nothing. So the fact that he knew how to work email, made him tech savvy in these idiots' minds.

Ser_Snow

His password was P@SSWORD.

I'm fairly certain his technological abilities have been grossly exaggerated.

quantokitty

Another excellent point ... why the heck wouldn't the DNC call the FBI? Especially since the Cannibal Queen and Comey were so friendly. They could have made out while underlings tended to the techie stuff ... or maybe shared a pizza?!!!!

Blacksmith21

For the same reason the DNC refused assistance from the DNC in helping shore up their cybersecurity against hack attacks.

crashing_this_thread

tech savvy falls for the most basic phishing scams in the world

Pick one. It's incredible the greatest scandal in the worlds history came out because of such incompetence. Thank god for technologically illiterate baby boomers.

followthedolla

arrogant. i think the word for the boomers is arrogant. they can't get over themselves for 2 seconds to think their actions through, they we're born in to the world-after-ww2, where all the evil was defeated and the world was their oyster. and now we're given scraps to fight over while they keep sacrificing children for the same ego they can't get over for 2 seconds.

?????

2impendingdoom

no shit, unless they hire only russians.

In one statement he ADMITS that there is a LEAKER and that its internal and that THEY ARE GOING 6 WAYS TO SUNDAY on him. how more incriminating can it be, in Podestas own words?

Shows motive and intent.

That alone is worth a criminal investigation of a normal person.

quantokitty

Absolutely, and it completely negates this false narrative. Sorry, but I never connected those words to contradicting the entire contrived story they advanced.

Further, it does bolster KimDotCom's assertion that Seth Rich had been working on this since 2014. It would mean that they knew they had mole, but didn't know who it was.

Commoner

You did good!!

quantokitty

Thanks! I appreciate it ...

2impendingdoom

yes, and it explains why they raided Dotcom's enterprise on "copyright" violations.

V____Z

whoa

quantokitty

It surely does. I'm sure this guy isn't stupid. That evidence is safe because it's what's keeping him safe.

V____Z

Kim might be many things, but stupid isn't one of them.

2impendingdoom

It a pure case of retailation and revenge for the exposing of election tampering crimes. So much easier if they had simply fired Seth instead they kill him. just goes to show how invincible they think they are.

Verite1

Totally

cult_of_philanthropy

Yes, but firing him still leaves a potential liablility. Killing a liability of that nature is nothing to them. "By any means necessary". So sad but true.

Commoner

Invincible and run like a gang.

carmencita

It also proves how stupid John David Podesta really is. I believe he has done other really stupid things. They are probably not that hard to find. They have been hiding in plain sight. Remember they never thought we would be smart enough to discover their little games.

Silverlining

Is his brother Robert Anthony Podesta - the guy who rocked up at Bohemia Grove with Dr Sava?

GhostOfSwartz

And they thought the election was in the bag and they'd have all their little minions in place to cover it up.

carmencita

Bingo.

The1stLantern

Pizzagate is the sweater we want unravelled - Rich's murder is the thread we pull to do it. Nothing more.

anotherdream

I disagree that the #SethCh case is sucking the air out of pizza gate. If people, including as I suspect the family - who is being kept quiet by their DNC handlers, - it has the potential to blow the lid off of the whole thing. We"re right over the target. They"re literally in 24/7 damage control mode right now.

V____Z

I wonder if part of that damage control is sending people to Voat to complain about us discussing this...

privatepizza

I agree.

anotherdream

Wow auto correct really got ahold of that one. Any way the investigation is being obstructed. If it blows with proof, it'll bring those sick fucks down.

Pizzalawyer

Let's draw the line at Sean, shall we. Technically the Rich murder is not a Pizzagate subject, it's now sucking all the oxygen out of the pizzagate room, the Rich story can only be justified if the postings are very tightly circumscribed, otherwise this train us drifting off track....

Silverlining

Ed duplicate post

Vic138

Many of the people involved in Pizzagate are also complicit in the murder of Seth Rich. Brock, Podesta, Hillary, etc.. Whether Pizzagate and Seth's killing are related is not known. It's a lead, and a good one.

I_have_my_gun_ready

It's like someone said, I'd rather bring these guys down because of pizzagate, but if we can get them for Seth Rich's murder, it's at least SOMETHING! It's like the Feds getting AL Capone for tax evasion. it's not as satisfying as racketeering and murder, but it gets the off the streets. Plus regardless of what happens with Seth's case. MOST people don't plan on stopping pizzagate, EVEN IF the Clinton's are jailed for ordering Seth's murder.

ReddittRefugee

Technically the Rich murder is not a Pizzagate subject

This is what you don't "get"

The Seth Rich assassination is a key Pizzagate subject

Seth Rich may be the whole reason Pizzagate got started.

He may have leaked the email stash that Wikileaks released, and it was in that stash that some people found Podesta's strange emails containing weird pizza-code language, and contacts, that started the whole trail of crumbs leading to Comet Pizza, women setting up pedophilic hot tub sessions, etc..

These facts need to be confirmed, or disproven.

Here's the real reason the Seth Rich assassination is so key:

  1. It's clear the narrative released to the press by the DC Police is absurd.

  2. Someone has the kind of influence it takes to get the DC MPD to stand down and issue a press release that is an obvious falsehood.

  3. People who get too close to the political pedophile network, and who threaten it with serious exposure . . . get killed!

This is heavy shit. It's something a lot of people have been glib about.

There is actually a long history of assassinations of people who get too close to pedophila in high government echelons. Do a search on the assassination of Mary Caitrin Mahoney. Or look up the "death by airplane sabotage" of Gray Caradori, who wouldn't quit investigating the Boys Town pedophilia network connected to the GHW Bush administration in the face of threats by the FBI.

It's all detailed in The Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal, by Nick Bryant.

http://thiscantbehappening.net/print/1315

It's vitally important that people get to the bottom of the whole Seth Rich story. The country owes a debt of gratitude to him because he opened the Pizzagate can of worms, and deserves justice, but also because it may be key to starting a discussion about how people in possession of potentially explosive information can stay safe.

(BTW- Gary Cadori made the mistake of calling people whose phones were tapped to tell them that he had acquired incriminating photos in Chicago taken by the photographer who produced porn for the guy who was organizing after-hours "boys tours" of underage child prostitutes in the GHW Bush White House, and was going to be flying back to Nebraska with them.)

Please stop trying to appoint yourself the "manager" of the people investigating Pizzagate here. Freedom of speech is what will enable people to follow their nose and make breakthroughs that others wouldn't have thought of. You are the one "sucking the oxygen out of the room" with your control-freakiness.

Silverlining

I have a vague recollection that someone said "follow the pizza" or at least encouraged people to look into the weird food code.

And set the whole thing off - it wasn't a spontaneous serendipity - as I understand it.

Can anyone help me out here?

2impendingdoom

I think it was the 4channers who noticed the strange language and absurdly frequent mentions of pizza, specifically the playing of dominos on pizza or pasta and the whole pizza related map handkerchief. then redditters picked it up and they all got banned and migrated here.

jangles

Because of Seth Rich I found Pizzagate - Think about that.

Kacey

Let's not draw that line. I begin to question the motives of those trying to shut down Seth Rich discussions. Clearly many think there is a connection so we need to research and discuss to confirm or deny that. Obviously commenters here want to discuss it.

AssFaceSandwich2

It's like we are currently examining Capone's tax records. How they go down is somewhat less important, but point taken.

pizzagater99

it's an ongoing journey, let's see where Pizzagate takes us