remedy4reality

catch 22 / they are telling how fucked ( they think ) we are

22 : Master Builder

millennial_vulcan

"ALLEN" Ginsberg. Please make sure spelling is correct before posting submission. He's a fucker, but he's a very important cultural icon, too.

YogSoggoth

Gumshoe missed pederasty. OK, let's get on with this. Went looking for local perverts with the now ancient weirdo theme of HOWL. I found a Packard connection.( Like the car) Some rich families change things up with their name but do not want to give up their name entirely, and that has been the case since the fall of the Roman empire. Whether this has anything to do with certain families or Ginny his self, is up to the deciders. Maybe I just stumbled on this, but I think this is appropriate in this forum. Sorry if someone already covered it. I work. Sick stuff y'all. http://www.mcall.com/news/local/police/mc-pa-grace-packer-jacob-sullivan-arraignment-20170331-story.html

equineluvr

' Some rich families change things up with their name but do not want to give up their name entirely, and that has been the case since the fall of the Roman empire."

Yes, Jews have done this for centuries. They have also "converted" to other religions. They claim they do this because of nonexistent "persecution."

From your linked story, the defendant is Jacob (obviously Jewish) Sullivan. Sullivan surname is of Irish nobility.royalty.

gumshoe_mob

I did not see a reference to pedophilia in Ginsberg's poem. He was homosexual. He railed against immoralities and greed and cities full of lost people. Perhaps he blamed this on Capitalism. Perhaps he was a communist. Whatever. Humanity has social problems that we need to sort out.

In Hillary's speech this week she reminisced about her days as a "revolutionary." There was a lot of change in the 60's but not all hippies bought into communism as a political ideal. Maybe as a social solution but not as a political solution. Most hippies that I knew LOVED our country and wanted it to live up to its guarantees of freedom. America had an authoritarian/religious ideal of never questioning authority. Our country was corrupted and was on a trend to build empire and interfere in sovereign nations. Military was looking at war as a way of solving world problems. How can Hillary claim any part of the PEACE MOVEMENT?? I think she is trying to defame the PEACE movement by aligning herself with it.

remedy4reality

'who bit detectives in the neck and shrieked with delight in policecars for committing no crime but their own wild cooking pederasty and intoxication'

I suggest you find out who the REAL Ginsburg was.. No coincidence that Operation CHAOS launch the same year of this poem.

bopper

Hmmmm, that would explain why Morrison couldn't sing worth a flip. And a lot of their stuff was garbage.

Psychedelic infiltration? Like at the Monterrey Pop Festival? After Sir Paul went to see Papa John the depraved pedophile heroin junkie there in California? And helped the CIA pass out free acid for a little experimentation?

https://youtu.be/mPT27weM21U?t=22

remedy4reality

Love that site and I agree with 100% of what you said.

Last weeks attack in Manchester is foreboding when you consider 22yr old kills 22 on the 22nd @22 :33 hours / 223 days from the end of the year http://gnosticwarrior.com/322.html

The_Crux

I ain't gonna read all that shit so you best post the highlights.

tomasdeminos

OP refers to Part II of this poem in which Moloch is repeatedly invoked. Other mystical terms are employed throughout e.g, seraph, Kabbalah, etc.

I wouldn't say Ginsburg is celebrating Moloch as much as he's associating it with the evils of industry and war. Ginsburg was a Gnostic, like Yeats before him. Aleister Crowley fell from their teachings and corrupted the Gnosticism.