zagreos

Where do I draw the line? Instead of selecting an arbitrary number chosen on the basis of subjective, ambiguous, or culturally relative criteria, I let biology draw the line for me. The stage of biological development that physically separates the state of being an adult from the state of being a child -- this is the only line that exists in the real world as a definite, concrete, objective, observable state of affairs. Anything else is either figment of our imagination or exists only as an arbitrary number defined into law -- a kind of legal fiction, like the notion that a corporation can be a 'person'. Legal fictions are sometimes necessary but they have nothing to do with morality -- true morality is never arbitrary, never anything that can be just invented on the spot. When a man fucks a toddler, he's not breaking some arbitrary rule but he is committing a real evil.

In other words: old enough to bleed, old enough to breed. That is how I determine if sexual intercourse is morally permissible or not -- provided that it also be consensual on both sides, and not exploitative or manipulative in character. If a girl hasn't bled yet, and is still physically prepubescent, then it is wrong to have sex with her.

When premarital sex wasn't the norm, and the average woman would be married out at a young age to a suitable man CHOSEN BY HER FATHER, age of consent laws were not even necessary, or if they did exist they would be as low as 12. There was a time when it would be perfectly normal for a father to let his 14 year-old daughter marry a well-chosen 27 year old man of good standing, a man normal in every way, whose character was first carefully scrutinised not only by the girl but also by the father, mother, grandparents, and everyone else in the family.

This was the norm for our ancestors, and still is the norm in most countries; now idiot Americans call it 'pedophilia'.

Whattheheck321

ugh. I cannot stand your point of view on this. Makes me sick to my stomach. 14 year olds are still children.

ElfMurder

That is not pedophilia. That is not rape. The policeman showed minor irresponsibility and nothing more.

IShallNotFear

Member for seventeen hours. I'm calling shill on this one.

ElfMurder

You can fuck right off nigger. I made an account after lurking for a long time. Debate my argument instead of throwing accusations around with no evidence.

zagreos

Hmm, 14 is the age of consent here. So I tip my hat to this cop, if the relationship was consensual.

cult_of_philanthropy

What's your source for 14 being the age of consent in DC. From what I just reseacrhed it's 16.

https://www.age-of-consent.info/states/District_of_Columbia

This says age of consent is 16 and that DC has no close-in-age exemptions. Although, if Ruth Bader Ginsberg had her way the age of consent nationally would be 12!

zagreos

I said 14 is the age of consent 'here', that is, where I live. At that age a person is an adult, as far as I'm concerned. I am concerned more with stopping real pedophiles from raping actual children (like six-year-olds for example); I am less concerned about people having sexual relationships with 14 year olds (i.e. young adults), except when such relationships are involuntary or exploitative. That the age of consent is higher where you come from is irrelevant to the moral status of the activity in question.

And I use 'exploitative' in the true, unambiguous sense of the word, not in any neo-marxist, social justice warrior sense. All exploitation, molestation, rape, and paedophilia must be opposed; but to oppose these things we don't have to lump people who rape toddlers into the same category as people who have voluntary relationships with consenting (if young) adults.

DerivaUK

Until it's your little daughter/sister/niece etc? This is flawed logic. Children are children. And 14 is still part of that category. Having sex with a 14 year old is exploitative; any consent can only be viewed as coercive.

sylisillysicily

Why the fuck is he even offered the deferred adjudication.....

Pizzalawyer

So Weiner is going to do real time in the big house for cybersex and this cop is not going to do any time for real sex. Go figure.

senpaithatignoresyou

Weiner has to get jail time, because he is very famous. Had he gotten off with nothing, too many questions would have been asked.

No one knows about this cop.

ReddittRefugee

Cops (and judges) take care of their own.

It's tit-for-tat too.

If you're ever in a car with a judge who gets pulled over for some infraction, watch how the cop gives the judge a warning instead of a $300 ticket!

RickFeynman

Weiner had all the serious shit dropped, and plead to a simple 'showing your dick to a minor' charge, will get less than 2 years, and most likely like EPSTEIN it will be in 'home confinement', no chance these guys will go to big house to be raped by nigga's

Recall Weiner's laptop had 100's of giga-bytes of CP, but all that had to be with-held from evidence to protect DNC.

RickFeynman

"If your not cop, then you are little people" - blade runner, 1981

Commoner

The judge, Marc Carter , seems to have a record of letting child molesters go. http://www.chron.com/news/falkenberg/article/Outrage-at-judge-is-misplaced-1732341.php