Gothamgirl

"2 people familiar with the inquiry" I just find terms like this make the whole story unreliable, if they can't name their sources.

stewmangroup

I'm not sure what you are expecting the journalist or the source to do. The journalist can't reveal their source because a) they would lose their source because b) the source would fired and/or put in jail.

I'm not sure if you understand how anonymous sources work, making a statement such the one you did. Journalists either know their sources directly OR they at minimum verify one way or another that their source actually has access to the information they claim, even if they don't know their actual identity. It's what good journalists do and have been doing for decades. This isn't some new process.

It seems you have a worldview such that, the journalist receives a call or email from out of the blue that says something interesting and they just run with it. That's not how these things work in the real world.

If the journalist is being straight up lied to, there's not much we can do about that until the information is made public. However, in the case of WaPo they have some of the highest standards in the industry. So if the information is verified to be false, they will issue a retraction.

Gothamgirl

Honestly, I don't believe it was Russia. I think it was me and citizens alike. If people are being straight up lied to by a reporter, who comes across unreliable information, it causes consequences. It doesn't matter if its retracted later. It seems to occur frequently. So in todays world, sources are important for credibility especially with organizations like "WaPo". You mean WaPo that has Molesta Podesta on staff? I don't believe anything in reguards to the Russian narrative, when we had the Awan Brothers and the Chinese doing the same, yet thats not reported.

stewmangroup

Have you not watched any of the Senate Intelligence Committee hearings?

ArthurEdens

Never knew I was a robot! Thanks hillary!

Commoner

Obama himself said that here was no Russian interference. Of course, that was when Hillary was suppose to win.

stewmangroup

This guy is trying to come at it from the Seth Rich angle. https://twitter.com/StockMonsterUSA/status/876892629606125568

Although his motion for protection failed miserably because he sucks at math. http://jampac.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/60-D.E.-60-Ord-Deny-Ps-Mtn-for-Ord-of-Protection-6-15-17.pdf

carmencita

Howard said that, as an example, bots had spread links to fictional stories that accused Clinton of involvement in running a child-sex ring in the basement of a Washington pizza parlor. The posts inspired a North Carolina man to drive to Washington and fire an assault weapon in the restaurant, according to police reports. If they are successful in spreading these Russian "fake lies" they will convince people Seth Rich was not the one that passed those emails. Thus the DNC would have no involvement and they will keep pushing their robbery story. These lies are being fabricated for more than one reason, but the main one is to cover their rear ends and to keep from getting charged with murder and child sex trafficking. Did I hear anyone say RICO?

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article139695453.html#storylink=cpy

stewmangroup

I hate Clinton, so you aren't going to get any support for her from me, however, the evidence she is running a satanic child fucking ring is nonexistent. It's a lovely conjecture though.

carmencita

I have no love for any of the Clintons, so you are not going to try to push that on me. Stop your secret shilling or if you are not a shill you are blind. Open Your Eyes Wide for they are Wide Shut.

stewmangroup

I'm not pushing anything. I am just a normal person. I can post whatever proof you like.

Pizzagate seems to be nonsense. I've been reading about it for months now. The FBI seems to be confirming that this disinformation campaign was spread by bots, mostly Russian based bots.

Commoner

So are you saying the podesta emails were fake? cuz he not saying it

stewmangroup

The emails appear to be real. What's made up is the BS from 4Chan that the mentions of pizza, hot dogs, walnut sauce, etc are some sort of code for child fucking.

Jem777

Why is the counter-intelligence agency of the FBI investigating bots when the Pakistani ISI Awan brothers have infiltrated the the Democratic congressional IT staff and fled to Pakistan just this month when caught by citizen journalists and Capital Police after they held their step-mother captive. They have an accomplice last name Abbas who worked for several other Congressman after working at bankrupt car dealership and threatening to "spill the beans" in 2012. He was then placed on Congressional staff IT given security clearance and paid over $400,000 dollars in taxpayer money. I just called the top ranking Democrat he worked for and asked was he still employed. They had never heard of him although he is listed on government records as their staffer being paid significant money with security clearance. The chief of staff seemed alarmed got on the phone checked and said he was recently terminated. I asked if she or the Congressman were aware of Abbas connection to Awan brothers Spy Ring linked to Debbie Wasserman-Shultz that was under investigation by the Capital Police. The Chief of Staff literally sounded frightened when she said No she was not and did not know why Abbas was terminated or if the Congressman knew. She stated she would inform him of the call immediately. Sure?

Everyone should call Democratic Congress that are implicated. Ask the chief of staff if the Congressman or Senator is Aware of Awan brothers Spy Ring & Capital Police case. Ask why the FBI counterintelligence is not investigating this? Call Judiciary.

Edit: Have listed an article that links Awan Brothers to Pakistan into Democrat IT office with national security implications. The car dealership listed in the article as C.I.A. was bankrupt in a scheme and Rao Abbas made the threats of exposure. He was then placed on Democratic Staffer IT in 2012 through 2017 when he was terminated.

I have attacked his proof of employment, connections to Awan brothers in a second document as well as pay from taxpayers. The Congressman he worked for are all Democrat and access to security and data bases possible. The only known investigation is by Capital Police although the Awan Brothers, their wives, & Rao Abbas have been named publicly by citizen investigators for over 6 months and many republican & democratic congress offices were personally visited notified in person and it was videotaped.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/20/exclusive-house-dem-it-guys-in-security-probe-secretly-took-100k-in-iraqi-money/

http://congressional-staff.insidegov.com/l/32778/Rao-R-Abbas

https://www.legistorm.com/person/Abid_A_Awan/33149.html

The below name is the Rebublican Senator in charge of Intelligence. You can call his office and inform them of your concerns. You can provide links to the articles provided and government records as well as notifying him there is a Capital Police Investigation right now. Providing the names in the articles helps. Awan Brothers and their termination with the corresponding Democratic Congressman named in the article.

Senator Burr Washington DC 202-224-3154

jangles

I have been calling Republican congresssmen with this information as well. Do you have a succinct news article you would recommend that would be useful for sharing this information?

Jem777

I will fInd one with Abbas name linked and Congressional pay...Stand-by

jangles

THANKS

EvaEverywhere

Thank you. Informing middle level people of these shenanigans can drive a wedge. Nobody wants to work for criminals and be an accessory to crimes (they dont get to benefit from).

stewmangroup

This is really fascinating and I completely support what you have done here. However, I am failing to see how the two inquires are mutually exclusive to one another.

carmencita

I highly commend you for sticking your neck out and asking these pertinent questions, although putting yourself in danger. This is what it will take. Private Citizens stepping forward and scaring the B-Geezus out of them. They think many of us are too busy or asleep at the wheel. That woman you talked to may just be a nobody really, and had no idea. But I am sure her Congressman boss did. Thanks Jem.

ben_matlock

You beat me to it @carmencita . I was juuuust about to post something very similar. It is inspiring, and necessary, that you stuck your neck out, @jem777 . Balls is what we need more of around here. Nothing will change if this investigation is confined to this board.

carmencita

I am not surprised that @Jem777 stepped forward. He is just that kind. It's that simple. We are lucky to have him on our team.

DeathTooMasons

We respect the FBI so much. After all, if there was anyting to PG, they would be investigating it, and suggest charges. Just like they did when the Clintons got Silsby off and had her become part of alert sense. Nothing to see there, it was legit, and the FBI knows there is never ever ever anything to see...ever. By the way, James Comey has integrity. Our nations system is legit.

remedy4reality

Not opening Mousoui's laptop, failure to find a any of the 4 flight/voice recorders at the WTC, failure to stop 1993 WTC attack ( in fact, provided the material for the actual bomb ), failure to expose Franklin Pedo ring...

it goes on... and on... and on....

PubMaster

Guess their projecting again...This was from October 16, 2016 when the Clinton Campaign launched their bot program. Seems like if they've done it, they accuse it! https://venturebeat.com/2016/10/10/clinton-campaign-launches-bot-that-texts-you-donald-trump-quotes/

remedy4reality

((( Mcclatchydc.com ))) ((( @stemangroup )))

this is the biggest faggot post I have seen in quite some time

stewmangroup

Nothing wrong with being a faggot.

remedy4reality

Except you ((( faggots ))) are actually child raping shitbags, posing as harmless faggots.

stewmangroup

No, that's crazy. I may have kinky debaucherous sex with my wife but at no point does that make me a child rapist. Where did you get the idea I am a child rapist?

Commoner

how old is your "wife"?

stewmangroup

She is 4 years older than me and we are celebrating our 20th anniversary this year. Why would you put wife in quotes? Do you live your life assuming everyone is lying to you?

remedy4reality

Because you're running disinfo for the cabal of child rapers, you dumbfuck.

The Pedo bond is tight.

stewmangroup

No, I'm not. I'm on a break from work.

remedy4reality

so.. you're like: 'Hey, let me open a VOAT account and sub to pizzagate/v because I have some fucking disinformation to post ! '

stop raping kids or defending kid rapers, you faggot.

stewmangroup

Didn't know there was a comment limit, sorry I couldn't reply sooner.

Yes, that is exactly what I did. I read the posts here relatively often but have never bothered to open an account. It took all of ten seconds so I am not sure why you even mention it. It's taken me WAY longer to write this reply.

banusaur

BEEP BOOP BEEP

stewmangroup

I'm not a bot.

Commoner

you sure do have a long lunch break.

stewmangroup

Or perhaps you don't have a decent sense of time? I wrote all 10 of my replies in under 20 minutes. Besides, I'm self employed so even if, god forbid, I did take more than 30 minutes on my lunch... my boss is cool with that.

DonKeyhote

Lol they quote a bitch from stratfor

DarkMath

Someone needs to tell McClatchyDC that "blitzing social media with links to pro-Trump stories" isn't against the law.

In fact Obama did the exact same thing in an effort to sabotage Israel's Netanyahu campaign.

Whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiich if you've been paying attention is why Hillary & Co were taken out behind the wood shed for an extreme ass pounding that's been going on to this day.

I love poetic justice so much it hurts. .......Not in my ass though, I just want to clarify that. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

:-D

DarkMath

Thanks for chiming in town rapist.

How many children did you rape today PGIsRetardedd?

Naughty naughy!

:-D

stewmangroup

What evidence do you have that he is a rapist? That's a pretty heavy accusation.

DarkMath

"What evidence do you have that he is a rapist?"

Stewman that was a joke. Although given his sick and twisted desire to deny pedophilia it does make me wonder sometimes.

stewmangroup

Don't quit your day job. Calling someone a rapist, doesn't get a lot of laughs on the comedy circuit.

DarkMath

PGIsRetardedd doesn't think Brownstone Operations exist and that their gears aren't greased by women and children. Do you know what a Brownstone Operation is?

stewmangroup

Pedophiles exist in all walks of life, it's a sad fact.

I have only heard of "Operation Brownstone" from pizzagate people and websites like this: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/content/operation-brownstone-george-bush-pedophile-sex-ring-and-blackmail-congress#axzz4kjyZqIdE

No one with any credibility so far. If you have evidence, present it. Don't you dare send be a YT link and claim its evidence for something either.

DarkMath

The Franklin Scandal was about a Brownstone Operation that saw Larry King(banker not the talk show host) fly underage male sex slaves children from Boys Town Nebraska all over the country to get toxic dirt on men of influence including politicians.

http://pizzagate.wiki/Franklin_Scandal

Why? Because when the Vice President of the United States is running a lucrative Crack Cocaine Business you need to dissuade any politicians with a conscience to look the other way.

:-D

stewmangroup

Seriously, I am not wasting my time with YT videos.

I am also familiar with the Franklin case. I don't recall seeing the term "Brownstone" referenced an any of the documents I have seen reading the case. If I am mistaken, please correct me.

DarkMath

One last word to the wise. Brownstone Operations are de rigueur when keeping men in power on a leash. They're absolutely essential because if you think using Crack Cocaine to get rich off of the suffering of poor black people then you ain't seen nothing yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahCMU8sppnQ

Now kindly go fuck yourself.

:-D

DarkMath

" I am not wasting my time with YT videos."

And I'm not wasting any more time on your dumb ass.

:-D

DarkMath

You've never heard of Pedo Island and the Lolita Express?

"Don't you dare" tell me those rich old white dudes were picking up teenagers on their own.

You must be new here.

:-D

stewmangroup

Why would you include a shitty photo like that, as if it had meaning? Do you really think that's a good piece of evidence for something?

Yes, I am familiar with the Epstein case. The "Lolita Express" and "Pedo Island" are made up terms, it's not like Epstein called them by these names.

There is nothing wrong with having a sex party on your own private island. We have to be careful about guilt by association here. Just because you spend time with someone that has done something illegal, does not mean you have done anything wrong yourself.

I have a personal example here. I am a photographer, and there is a local band that I have photographed many times. Over the years, I became acquaintances with the lead guitarist and his wife. When I opened my studio downtown, they often stopped in to say hi and we even did some great pinup photos of his wife. Then, out of the blue, suddenly he gets arrested for having sex with a minor. Turns out, that when he used to work at the music store down the street, he became involved with an underage girl (16) he was giving guitar lessons to. We had no idea, the band had no idea, even his wife had no idea that this had been going on. We didn't do anything wrong, which is why he is the one in jail and not everyone he knows as well.

Since I'm on a tangent... I think it's important we clarify that being a pedophile and having sex with someone who is underage are two entirely different things. I know you are going to attack me and disagree with me, but hear me out.

I, and every adult I know, lost their virginity before they were 18. Most of us were sexually active at 15 and 16. So, I think there is a fair argument to be made that the age of consent in the US could be 16 rather than 18. We let 16 year olds have a drivers license and a car is a far more deadly weapon than our genitals. Just to be crystal clear, I am NOT saying there is problem with the current laws or even that they should be changed. I am simply saying there is a decent argument to made that they COULD be changed.

Now pedophilia on the other hand, is generally referring to molesting, being attracted to, aroused by, or raping a pre-pubescent child. Clearly, a child of this age and development cannot give informed enthusiastic consent. That, I believe, is where the line needs to be drawn here.

Like I said, I know you are going disagree with me but I have very liberal views about sex and the freedom of consenting adults to do whatever they please.

So, back to the Epstein case. Obviously, he broke the law and he served his time (too short if you ask me). However, when reviewing the facts of the case I think it is difficult to call Epstein a pedophile. Don't get me wrong he pushes the bounds for sure, but it seems everyone he was involved was at least sexually mature. Regarding his sex parties, again, consenting adults can do whatever they like in that regard. If underage girls were being raped by people other than Epstein on his plane or island, that's a problem, however to date, there is no evidence of that. The accusations that Trump, Prince Harry, Clinton, etc are pedophiles simply because they partied with Epstein are, in my view, unsupported at this time.

DarkMath

"There is nothing wrong with having a sex party on your own private island."

That's where I stopped. If you can't figure out Epstein and Israel's Mossad were running a Brownstone Operation on Pedo Island than any further communication with you could impair my current IQ score. I'm sorry.

:-D

stewmangroup

Private sex parties are pretty damn fun, you should try it sometime. If you don't want to have a reasonable discussion about it, that's not my problem. Have a good day.

DarkMath

You seem to have missed the point which is Mossad getting pictures of powerful people fucking people they shouldn't be fucking.

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for fucking. I love it. But the purpose of Pedo Island is getting toxic dirt on people to make them more malleable. It's not just about sex.

crackingthecode

retardedPGis/ your so anger,,, do you hate everyone,,,?, ask jesus christ to come into your life,, ask him to be your savior. your hate will all go away. and then lucifer,satan. apollo, angel of the mourning will no longer own your soul

stewmangroup

There is no god.