kazza64

i follow liz on twitter and she is very very good. https://twitter.com/LizCrokin

Votescam

Thank you for this fantastic interview of Liz Crokin .... highly recommend it -- !!

United States of America is all about pretense .... As Liz Crockin is pointing out the DNC corruption is high and wide, much more than what has already been acknowledged -- Debbie to Donna Brazile, Lynch and primary fixed for Hillary, duplicate polling stations run by HRC and who knows what else -- except that very likely some info re human trafficking/child trafficking might have become visible to Seth Rich.

Well, we can definitely say that sex trafficking rose with the right wing and this is true all over the world.

And it's protected by Elites/wealthy -- and we should remember that it is organized patriarchal religion which underpins Elite patriarchy.

Liz also makes an excellent point that James Alefantis' website and photographs can't be explained as anything but sexualizing children, including the original art work on his restaurants' walls.

Also, clearly Liz Crokin is very much aware that she has persisted in writing accurate stories about human trafficking, but that many others in journalism are ignoring it because they know the consequences.

It is a world different from what we thought we knew about our nation .... because of the secrecy and the ability to hide so much from the public - so much of organized activities by evil people.

And it is indeed an "industry" put in motion by our CIA.

Liz also comes back to the practice by organizations like Skull & Bones where you appoint your fellow Skull & Bones-man to high positions in government and this has been going on more than 100 years! No, this certainly isn't all happening by accident --!!

I will add my own opinion which is that anyone involved with this trafficking is living under threat of murder.

srayzie

She's great. She was on The Hagmann Report last week too with HoneyBee. She's great. She gets really emotional about these kids. H.A. Goodman speaks really highly of her.

GuannaRue

Oh, look! Suspected shill @V____Z has presented the fine people of voat with yet another non-credible celebrity personality as a distraction ...

seekingpeace

This is going to be an unpopular post but...

I still haven't seen any credible evidence that Seth Rich leaked the emails to Wikileaks. Everything is just speculation. Also, SR had worked long enough in the Beltway to have heard plenty of rumours.

DerivaUK

We haven't seen any real credible evidence that Seth Rich is actually dead. Watching that weird video of his family I made the comment that nothing there showed he was. I'm still not convinced either way.

scott4964

yah, ok man.

star_boi

assange all but said his name in an interview, i have seen it, he made it obvious.

seekingpeace

Yes, because he knew the leaks must've been coming from inside the DNC. Then, someone from inside the DNC "dies" in suspicious circumstances. If the leaker submitted the first batch of emails through the postal service, as recommended by Wikileaks, then it's entirely plausible that Julian Assange and Wikileaks didn't know their identity.

GeorgeHodelDidit

Seeking Peace? Name sounds like a Pedo trying to avoid getting strung up on a lamp post when the Pogrom times arrives.

Blacksmith21

Timestamp 2023 / 20 Jun 17: Dershowitz will be the next to turn up dead.

quantokitty

Upvoat for you. Liz Crokin is an extremely important resource to this investigation. Since this post is getting so much ridiculous pushback, pls let's keep it buoyed towards the top. The shills hate Crokin and intelligent videos.

This forum is really, really, really getting bad. I'm hanging in there and extending my parameters of posting. Now when I see this level of disruption going on, I'm going to dig, dig, dig and deliver a post on JA or the Cannibal Elites. Come on, let's hit back on this horrible attempt at shillery ... rhymes with Hillary ... and Killary ...

waxdino

I think this forum is getting (has been) bad because of all the "personalities" we're supposed to like, or not, and you're a shill if you don't (or do) like them. Seaman, Webb, Jones, Crokin, Frost, whoever. None of them have helpful or useful information. It is our conditioning to look for and hold up celebrities creeping in to distract us. I bet half the posts on here are arguing about whatever personality is getting attention at the moment.

srayzie

There are several people here that still hold onto the belief that some people who spread disinfo are actual truth. Like George Webb. I've made posts about him. I see nothing wrong with making a post showing their latest tactics so that everyone knows who is trustworthy or not. They can also know what to watch for. Or the latest lie they can run into. Being informed is a good thing. I don't think everything is always so cut and dry. Sometimes we can be so narrow minded that we miss things going on around us as well. There are other things that sometimes need to be addressed to further this investigation.

quantokitty

Absolutely .... those personalities are a huge problem. They have equally rabid fans that try to takeover the forum or devote it to their videos. I'm getting tired of it. I didn't mind when one video was posted, but now that AJ and Webb have lost their freakin' minds and trying to get back credibility (ain't gonna happen --- no matter how much you shout at me), the shillwatch is crazy! And Seaman and Crokin do not monopolize the space here. They were/are legitimate journalists.

waxdino

You said yourself

The shills hate Crokin

That's part of what I'm talking about.

quantokitty

Don't understand. You're saying if we post comments or articles by Crokin that shills won't like it and that that detracts from #pizzagate?

I say post her more. And Crokin doesn't have anything to do with the shit posts being posted. Just a huge disruption ... HUGE .... the balance of this forum has shifted.

V____Z

I would argue that in the case of Webb, this is about much more than personalities. If he is part of the psyop some think he is, then the topic is well worth your time. What good is a truth community if you get infiltrated? And if you're being infiltrated, one of the best things to do is yell about it until people hear you, and then kick the f***ers out.

srayzie

I agree

V____Z

LOVE IT

High Five

quantokitty

Thanks!

DonKeyhote

Why would you spend an hour watching a pair of ugly tarts instead of following actual leads, which seth rich is not. What was her evidence he knew about it?

Blacksmith21

"Get a clue, Liz. Do you think the DNC would do such a sloppy hit?!"

LOLOLOL....One word: "password".

Ridicule is a powerful tool.

artfullyours

Have you seen Maxine Waters, heard Nancy Pelosi, read Podesta's emails or heard about the password he used? I think that says it all!

fogdryer

They are getting sloppy!

equineluvr

Ever hear of the Clinton Body Count? It goes back DECADES. Ask Larry Nichols. How many of them were "attempted" hits? ZERO. They are ALL DEAD.

Hit men don't leave witnesses. They don't even leave the scene without making sure the hit was a success. Period.

srayzie

Exactly and Larry Nichols is awesome!

DerivaUK

I'm amazed his latest comments haven't got more traction here. He's allegedly heard a tape recording of a meeting between Comey, Podesta, Lynch and others where they are plotting to cover Killary's crimes to get her elected. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmxbUK9uFMo&sns=em

GrDec

Actually Mossad, CIA and other orgs that use hit teams, use TWO of them.. one to do the hit and the second as a backup to make sure the hit gets done.

I mean, how hard can it be to shoot a fat drunken joo at 4am in the head, using a silencer??

Blacksmith21

All of which could have easily been the work of one person who may be retired/dead.

BTAlum4truth

They shot him to get him to hospital, then they torture/interrogate him at the hospital to figure out what he knows, and whom he told or talked to, then they killed him. As per the Senator well I believe that guy was not a pro...it may have actually been an actual real attack...imho...

brbomglolwtfbbq

doubtful. its hard to shoot someone in the back and be 100% sure they wouldnt die. we are fragile creatures

PizzaGateDiscovery

Good help is hard to find nowadays.. Maybe it's hard to find good hit men nowadays too.

Two shots in the back. They didn't expect him to live long and if he was shot in the back, he probably didn't see their faces.

fogdryer

They are going to retry for that senators life

Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt

They also murdered other prominent officials including Governor Carnahan and Senator Paul Wellstone for example.

Wellstone was going to expose the system of Global Criminal Corruption, and was specifically interested in Monsanto and DuPont among many others involved.

Pizzalawyer

What is it with these black "naughty news nighties" these women wear nowadays to deliver the news? Did it start with Megyn Kelly? They look ridiculous which makes them sound ridiculous and then they lose all credibility with me. I sincerely try to plod through even lengthy material on Voat but I couldn't endure these two beyond 3.8 minutes regardless of content.

artfullyours

They think that everyone is as obsessed with sex like they are.

twistedmac11

That’s called Ad Hominem, attempting to discredit info bc you don’t like the source. That’s just ignorant. If the present is good, who cares how shitty the wrapping paper is?

Pizzalawyer

I don't like sexualized news anymore than i like sexualized children.

3141592653

Fox news is the worst for sexualizing female reporters

V____Z

You can't listen because of her shirt? Well, it is good content anyway. She's one of the lead pizzagate researchers. I used to be shocked by what looked like bathing suits to me, on journalists. I once said something about the girl on The Young Turks, who always looks like she's wearing a one-piece bathing suit (you can't see her pants) - i got screamed at on twitter for saying anything. I guess times have changed?

equineluvr

I agree with you. It looks slutty and unprofessional.

Liz is basically a drama queen and an attention whore who happens to have a journalism degree. That's why she can't keep a job and has no career to manage.

Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt

Remember when Liz quit investigating Pizzagate? What changed? Did you quit investigating Pizzagate too?

Who is Wednesdayy?

Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt

Agreed, and it's also how she got into the messy relationship with a much older man who essentially bought her love, and then was surprised when it did not end well. Who would have guessed? We also agree that many people who claim to be investigating varying aspects of Pizzagate and corruption will not stray from the script to investigate the real network of Global Criminal Corruption that has roots in Racine, Wisconsin. Will you please look into it for once, and help expose fake investigators through the ultimate litmus test of investigating Racine?

The answer to solving Pizzagate and Global Criminal Corruption is right under everyone's noses. YouTube videos, defamation lawsuits and election reform are not going to go anywhere. Justice will not happen until everyone is smacked in the face with the real truth that cities like Racine are rigged from cradle to grave and used as a model and ran by secret societies, corrupt businesses and organizations, and foundations for the evil and corrupt global agenda under the lies of sustainability, fake news, religious freedom, community policing, education reform, mass incarceration and fighting human trafficking.

Why is Racine not only one of the major human trafficking hubs, but also posturing as one the major anti-trafficking hubs through ties with the Clintons, McCains and Ashton Kutcher among others? Remember Monica Petersen and Amber Alerts? The same thing is happening in Racine with the Fight to End Exploitation. Ask the real Chris Kutcher how he became such close friends with Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Then remember his open love for freemasonry and Kabbalah, and don't forget about their friends in Hollywood, Chicago and DC with names ending in Emanuel. When George Webb states that Obama didn't know anything, one only has to look to his buddy Rahm. Either George is ignorant, or extremely selective about the subjects of his investigation.

If you really care about the truth EquineLuvr, it is time for you to apologize and start investigating. In fact, forget the apology. We don't care who you are or what your angle is. Just investigate. Some of you are creating the same infighting drama that we see between the YouTube community. Stop fighting about stuff that doesn't matter and start investigating Racine, Wisconsin.

DonKeyhote

Lol. You misunderstand what collaboration means.

Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt

We will collaborate with anyone willing to investigate the real truth. Have you investigated Racine yet? What do you want to know?

V____Z

wow.

equineluvr

Liz's "sexual assault" was contracting genital and brain herpes from her BF in a consensual relationship. She sued her uberwealthy, multimillionaire BF over it and wrote a book about it. If you read the book, she was never raped in any way. Now she's a "sexual abuse victim" and an "advocate for sexual abuse survivors."

Liz was always a writer and did beat reporting but never an investigative journalist. Once her Hollyweird tabloid gig ended, she suddenly rebranded herself from an uberliberal, Hollyweird party girl to a "conservative." As she admits in this video, she has been canned from her last several gigs, including Town Hall and WND. Those are not liberal rags by any stretch, and they have covered pedophilia and sex trafficking by other writers. BTW, Liz, having your stories "go viral" is not an indicator of good journalism.

Always the VICTIM, between gigs she has generated MORE UBERDRAMATIC claims, including GooTube videos in which she claimed that she was being stalked and her life threatened.

Get a clue, Liz. Do you think the DNC would do such a sloppy hit?! Not likely. There is NOTHING to investigate.

She cites NO basis for her "beliefs" cited in this video, which is just repeating that we have already heard elsewhere. The Assange statement was not definitive, and Assange -- who has Rothschild ties, including sharing an attorney with Rothschilds, has a cannibal-dinner-attending GF (Pam Anderson), etc. -- is likely involved in this massive "deep state" psy-op.

There is something wrong with this woman. Maybe her cerebral herpes has affected her personality and judgement.

She is milking this BS story and will continue to do so as long she can earn some shekels from the sheeple.

GrDec

Always the VICTIM, between gigs she has generated MORE UBERDRAMATIC claims, including GooTube videos in which she claimed that she was being stalked and her life threatened.

hmm.. you are correct, she spends almost 10 minutes trying to convince the audience that she is another hapless victim of the unfair media system..

how similar this victim narrative is to Dave Sheman and George WS's.. they're all victims of the system.. someone is always out to get them.. and they are the only ones uncovering the truth.. LOL

They're all LIBTARDS that all of the sudden became conservative when Trump took power. How convenient.

NoBS

You do know that Seth Rich was a loyal Democrat? That blind loyalty retards survival instincts big time.

GrDec

They're all libtards.. Seth Rich, George Webb Sweigert, Dave Sheman..

Dave Sheman, used to work for feminist site jezebel.com, where he got fired from and then he used to write for free for the HUFF POST.. it doesn't get more LIBTARD that that!!

Now all of the sudden, the (((Deep State))) wants to make these libtards truther "heros"..

DarkMath

"Do you think the DNC would do such a sloppy hit?! "

Oh. I didn't realize there was another interpretation of John Podesta's infamous:

I'm definitely for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real basis for it.

You're saying make an example of could entail writing insults with chalk around the leakers parked car.

Good one! I forgot how devastating a message that sends to a wayward employee. Duly noted and thank you!

:-D

Pizzalawyer

Thanks for this background info. Of course she wouldn't have bothered to file suit unless there were deep pockets in it. Did I just make a pun?