HolyMoly0

Make sure you mention the astronomically high view counts and subscriber counts. That's the most suspicious part.

3141592653

Its so weird. And the handful only of comments on the vids

usplusthem

yes.. no matter how you look at it, creepy as hell

3141592653

Yes, it's so creepy

Votescam

Think it's very important to hear these concerns of parents - Thank you.

hypercat

So I guess we shouldn't make television or film about things that happen that aren't happy endings. Be a fucking adult and monitor what your kids watch. It's not TV that is ruining your kids, it's parents who expect teachers and anyone but themselves to actually parent. I can't contest to you personally, but most parents just don't parent. They do the basics, food, clothing, take them to school, and expect teachers, nannies, babysitters, whoever to do the hard stuff, like talk to your kid, monitor computer use, monitor TV use, whatever.

Did MTV make me a degenerate? Did the MAXX or Bevis and Butthead make me a psychopath? No. Was I bullied? Hell yes. Am I a completely normal, working, educated, person? You're goddamn right I am. because I had parents who were involved in my life.

No one is going to kill themselves because of a TV show. They are going to kill themselves for many reasons, as the goddamn show depicts, if you cared to actually watch it. It depicts events that happen EVERY DAY in high schools across the nation. Should we just turn our heads and cover our ears?

Just like you wouldn't let a 7 year old watch a rated R film, you have to figure out what is appropriate and what is not. The internet is the wild west of media. There is Family Guy porn, 4chan, trolls, and S&M pony play. It's not going away. We grew up with the internet and saw it change and evolve and saw things maybe we should not have, but making your kid a special snowflake and not letting them see or do anything is worse. They will go to college and do everything they never were allowed to do. I've seen it. It's sad.

3141592653

The American Pediatrics Association put out a statement saying that the show would encourage kids to commit suicide-- and it has. The American Psychological Association put out a similar statement warning parents about the danger of this show. It has inspired suicidal feelings in many kids. The show offers no hope or solutions or way our of despair. It glamorizes suicide and also depicts it very very graphically.

hypercat

And the American Dental Association says we should fluoridate all the water, and psychologists said humans and puppets on sesame street would freak kids out. 99.9% of scientists agree on global climate change caused by humans, and 99% of doctors know that vaccines are safe and don't cause autism. There is always a motive.

Skins didn't cause kids to do drugs and have more sex.

And why should a show have a happy ending? Not everything is happy. Are we to shove cotton candy down our kids throats so they think everything always turns up peachy? Game of thrones everyone gets killed, yet no one says that causes suicidal thoughts.

usplusthem

hypercat, I have to wonder if you have kids? Comparing Game of Thrones to 13 Reasons Why... not really a valid comparson, sorry. Sure, there are many non-sincere sources out there. Doesn't mean they are all bad. Shades of grey do exist, and I'm not talking about the book series. And I do think you are naive if you think no media affects people to do things. I am all for free speech but it angers me when shows appear to dramatize suicide and bring it more prevalently into kids' minds. Another point, you ask if we should shove cotton candy down our kids' throats? How about mitigating the extremes in your comments... be sincere, not sarcastic, it will get you further in making your point. You sound angry about the criticism of this TV series and I don't understand why. What is nefarious about parents being concerned about this show? We have watched our kids deal with classmate and acquaintances' suicides. We know that the better way to deal with it is bring it into open discussion with real, educated adults and joined with real, practical help for these kids and coping solutions. That series works against, not with, the right kind of help. To take it a step further, Netflix is owned in part by George Soros, our favorite globalist, you know, "globalism" being the beast we have talked about ... well, all over the place. Not our friend. Have you ever googled Agenda 21? There are elites in this world who would be happier if a large percentage of the "sheeple" were dead. No joke. I don't know if you have taken the redpill... but if you have, give it some more time to ruminate in your system .. you will learn discernment between things that entertain you and things that are weapons. I wish you well.

hypercat

13 Reasons was based on a book. Written in 2007. People have been killing themselves prior to YA publications. Look at the Virgin Suicides. Did you get all huffy about that film too? It's fiction, someone wrote it, and someone thought it would make a good show, and people are watching it. I don't like Rick and Morty, but I am not going to go all crazy "can I speak to your manager" on the show. I just don't watch it.

Remember the 90's, VC Andrews. Flowers in the Attic? yeah, she wrote 30+ books about incest and rape. Available at your local public library. Her books were in local high school libraries. Read one. They are steamy. Yet, didn't make anyone rape their sisters. Oh, but the Duggars from `9 Kids and Counting, their Christian faith, Rapey McRaperson.

So, basically, people are going to be assholes, stupid, sad, depressed, REGARDLESS of what they see on the idiot box. Metal music is not turning your kids satanic.

perhaps, if one sees a show they thinks is controversial, they should talk with their children about it. The repercussions and things like that? You know? Like parenting?

usplusthem

Hypercat, I do see the point you are trying to make but I will respond to your ideas here one at a time. So I have copied your reply and will insert my responses.

13 Reasons was based on a book.
- I had not heard of it before. Netflix has exponentially more reach than a book, yes?

Written in 2007. - Again, the year does not change the argument.

People have been killing themselves prior to YA publications.
- This is common knowledge. This knowledge does not compromise my desire to discourage negative influences. Look at the Virgin Suicides. Did you get all huffy about that film too? - I can only get huffy about bad stuff that comes across my path. Sadly, there is so much of it I am sure there is plenty that I miss. I have no doubt my kids have seen some. And I agree, some exposure to bad stuff can help shape a kid. But again, dramatizing suicide outside of the therapeutic environment, is wrong, in my opinion.

someone wrote it, and someone thought it would make a good show, and people are watching it. - Are you pushing the assumption that because someone wrote it and people are watching it, then its ok? Someone wrote the script to satanic rituals too, and lots of people participate in it.

I don't like Rick and Morty, but I am not going to go all crazy "can I speak to your manager" on the show. I just don't watch it. -that's great for you but there a lot of people who are drawn into things for the wrong reasons and actually
are vulnerable to tragedy. Sure, personal responsibility is a thing to consider. Have you ever heard of the analogy of the boiling frog? The frog sits happily in the water that is slowly, slowly getting hotter until the frog is cooked. That's where we are as a society. Slowly, slowly, decency is being turned down and "do what thou wilst" - motto of Alestar Crowley, is being turned up. Humans have short memories, which is why politicians and bankers are happily whistling to the bank while society's standards get less and less lofty and the "arrow that was aimed high" is now aimed low. You can blame parents all you want, but if you have no standards in a civilization, how do you expect the citizens won't gradually decline? Bottom feeders pull down the middle while the top feeders watch. Parents may have been abused themselves. Not every kid can pull themselves up by their bootstraps. In a better society, Media shouldn't just dust off their hands and say "welp, it's free speech, I have no obligation here". Sure, it's legal to make "13 Reasons Why". But my point is, WHY IS OUR SOCIETY NOT MADDER? At what point do we get mad enough or powerful enough that these kinds of things are ostracized? The more years that go by, more crappy stuff people just shrug at. Are we boiling yet??

Remember the 90's, VC Andrews. Flowers in the Attic? yeah, she wrote 30+ books about incest and rape. Available at your local public library. Her books were in local high school libraries. Read one. They are steamy. Yet, didn't make anyone rape their sisters. -Yes I read one of those books. I love some of the creepy stuff, like Steven King and others. It didn't make me do anything either, but how do you know it didn't make anyone do anything? You don't.
Not saying these things should be banned. Just saying why push this kind of drama out there and try to claim there won't be consequences?

Oh, but the Duggars from `9 Kids and Counting, their Christian faith, Rapey McRaperson. - Look, noone knows what goes on in anyone's house, really. No argument there.

So, basically, people are going to be assholes, stupid, sad, depressed, REGARDLESS of what they see on the idiot box. -Yes, sometimes they are. But I am not going to condone when things get this low. TV sucks now. "News anchors" are downright lying. There is right, and there is wrong. You have to pick one. You can't say "everything is relative". That is what destroys a society completely.

Metal music is not turning your kids satanic. -Yes That is true. Again, who is to say how many ripples there are from anything?

perhaps, if one sees a show they thinks is controversial, they should talk with their children about it. -of course. I hope parents do this. And I hope they take the extra step and get shit away from their kids when they should. Kids don't have the maturity to choose what they can and cannot handle.

repercussions and things like that? You know? Like parenting? -There's that anger thing again. Who are you mad at? Of course. I am an active parent. I commend
you for pointing out that parents should never back down, you are right!! But I am still PISSED AT NETFLIX because this is IN YOUR FACE dramatizing SUICIDE without providing a way for kids to process these feelings. This is WRONG. If you don't think so, just ask a parent who has lost a kid to suicide. My kid didn't watch this series. I have let my kids watch lots of crap, but I have a line and Netflix and others are crossing it. I suggest you check out "investigatingyoutube.com".
This may give you some idea of the fact that people are systematically, scientifically, methodically trying to program kids FROM THE TIME THEY ARE BABIES via YouTube and YouTube Kids, it is sick, sick, sick, and it is an attack on our future, for sure. If this does not show you that we are up against the boiling frog syndrome, then I don't know what else I can say.
Hypercat I am sorry for the rant, it isn't directed at you personally.

hypercat

No worries, I have heard and read everything you posted, I wrote 4 book reports on VC Andrews in 8th grade. Netflix does have trigger warnings at the start of each episode, and is planning on adding more. I think that is a good idea, but the best idea, is to be able to monitor and talk about sensitive subjects with children/YA, vs censorship.

I love books, and taking one out of the library because it says 'nigger', or talks about masturbation, or incest just leads to book burning and Fahrenheit 451 or even more contemporary Demolition Man type of world, all music is bad so we only listen to commercials.

I don't think children should be on tablets or computers. It destroys the eyes and makes kids fat. But I also think that all media should be available for those who want to see history. Minus kiddy porn and snuff films. Was the horse killing the guy from sex a snuff film?

3141592653

Cuz it doesn't. This show has

11-11

thanks -

which show specifically were you referring to?

3141592653

13 Reasons Why

hookednosedjoooo

Are you retarded? The fucking Jews have infected every single goddamn media outlet with filth. You literally have kids shows with fucking Trannies. Parents don't have time to keep track of whats on the TV when they are busy breaking their backs working to pay the mortgage that requires dual incomes because long gone are the days when the man could be the bread winner and the woman could stay home. Its not economically feasible to properly parent your children anymore, thats part of the problem

hypercat

Point 1. What about the Christian science monitor? They are not Jewish. Decent news too.

2 Maybe they shouldn't have kids if they can't raise them. And buying a house isn't for everyone.

usplusthem

Your point is well taken. I have two grown kids who are not snowflakes. I am involved in my kids life. You pointed out that parents need to be involved enough to know what their kids are into. I am advocating personal responsibility, but that does not mean that parent education about how bad things are, should be condemned. We all need any tools in the box. And I agree. I have seen kids go ape shit wild at school and it is not pretty. They need to have open eyes, but I will not defend shows that are aimed at adolescents and dramatize suicide. Not ever. My kids are not innocent nor squeaky clean, nowhere near. But if we do not draw a line, where does it end.

sore_ass_losers

I think this sort of thing is done to accustom kids to horrific things, to traumatize them, and to addict them.

11-11

Good post ! and nice of you to think that the schools have good intentions but think again.

The humanists have been going after schools for 40 years and have made a lot of progress.

The satanists have too.

Example: A local elementary school (grade K-4 or 5) has a 9 foot tall Demon alter - with a bucket at the bottom for offerings I guess ---- in a square in the middle of the school.

The school got a grant (it is "art" of course) & flew an artist in from central america to make this hideous thing complete with a human skeleton carved into the back.

It is a replica of a mayan alter to the sun god. They Mayan's sacrificed people by slicing their gut open, taking the beating heart and squirting the blood on the alter

The school alter is red - signifying the spilt blood. Is very creepy. I don't know of a place I can post the pics in order to link it. If anyone knows, please advise.

---------------- Common Core The Common Core tests, psychological tests, are given, the names kept intact with the scores, and the results are sold.

See the BIG DATABASES posts from a few days ago to get an idea where this information is going

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1946585

Part I: "BIG DATA" BROKERS Involvement? | DATA BROKERS Have Dossiers on Children | Clinton and Franklin Credit Scandal Connections | Pizza Reference (pizzagate) submitted 7 hours ago by exposethecriminals

also

Common Core Data Mining and How to Protect Your Child William DeHuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49YUTlysVOk

also

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1946587

Part II: "BIG DATA" BROKERS Involvement? | DATA BROKERS Have Dossiers on Children | Clinton and Franklin Credit Scandal Connections | Pizza Reference (pizzagate) submitted 8 hours ago by exposethecriminals (continued from Part I: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1946585 )

Speculation:

How do international shadow government sex trafficking rings select their victims, and find their customers? Is it partly through sophisticated databases designed for that purpose?

usplusthem

Great post and thank you for all of the info, which I will digest as quickly as I can. Wow, The shit is everywhere. I still believe in people and that there are many good ones in the system. I am sure many educators have no idea they are complicit in this evil. Meanwhile, walk softly and carry a big stick in the swamp.

hypercat

Link to satanic statue? And is it satanic or mayan? Pick one.

11-11

satanic or mayan: i guess it depends on who you believe. the bible says it is satanic. other sources would probably say something else.

Rmm

An excellent idea and letter. I will definitely forward/copy and disseminate it!

usplusthem

Thank you!

darkknight111

I've sent information about this crap to my white hat contacts in the intelligence community.

Admist this horror, steel yourselves with these words.

"There's horrible things in the world. I know that now. But there's also a lot of things worth protecting too." -Madoka Kaname.

Given my cynical, anti nihilist point of view (I believe the world to be a horrible place with little hope of saving, yet I don't care, still fighting for a better future anyway), this has been my mantra to keep myself from succumbing to despair.

usplusthem

Yes, wise words and so important. If we all let these rabbit holes consume us then what good are we?

VieBleu

Forgive my long email,

NEVER apologize for the work you are putting in! Value your point of view and your voice! : )

go go go upvoated.

usplusthem

Thank you, point taken:) . We all need to be barracudas when it comes to our kids, our safety, our country.

VieBleu

glad to have you onboard : )

Red_Lindy

What I don't understand is how everyone is almost simultaneously missing the point in all of this.

Adding more...

If you all don't think for a second this is planned and allowed by Disney (they own marvel) you are an idiot. If you think this is Cia psyop stuff, I don't think it's impossible but it's not their scope. As for the soros accusers, you are right in spirit but not in the letter. What do all these signs tell you?

Its all different parts of the same organism. You can stop this one, maybe, but what about the other 10000 tentacles on this kraken? What is required to save your kids from this monster is attacking it at its head, not its expendable appendage.

Do I even need to say what this kraken can be called? (((Globalism))), that should do.

usplusthem

I agree. Globalism is such a beast, the question is how? How do we attack at the head? The "truthers", "pizzagaters", "alternative media", many are on the same side and yet, they are fragmented and in some cases, divided by disagreements and by trolls. How do we centralize. How do a bunch of individuals attack the head of something they can't even see collectively. What I have been doing, is praying, but I know there has to be more?? Come to think of it, the RedPill expo last weekend is one example of something good, something like that, like anti-Bilderberg, anti-Bohemian grove type meetings, where everyone puts their differences aside, puts their heads together and attacks, that what we need!

usplusthem

Red_Lindy, I would disagree with your statement that it is based on a race. Racism is what I am hearing from your post... am I off base? Please clarify so I can understand your point. In my view it's about good versus evil, period, and no race is all evil or all good.

Red_Lindy

We aren't all on the same page because people still think it's only one or two Jews, and not the whole fucking tribe and that demon moloch/yahweh. Once that is a majority sentiment, then we will start making progress.

hypercat

Globalism just means you get your tvs, video games, dvds, furniture, all the shit you buy, for cheap from another country vs. having it all locally sourced. Pay $20 for a plate made by a local potter or $5 for a set of 5 from china. Most people are going for the cheap shit.

Red_Lindy

I thought the three parentheses were signal enough that that was supposed to mean kike, my bad. I know what you mean though.

UnicornAndSparkles

Thank you for writing a letter template for us. Maybe getting the schools to look into this themselves and informing parents at PTA meetings could be a good way to open the can of worms for them .. or at least question the motives of a huge corporation that we all have unfortunately put our trust into.

usplusthem

I feel like I have to at least try. I don't doubt some of the staff in our schools may be, say, not on the right side, but I still have to think that they are a minority. Thanks for the post.

hookednosedjoooo

I agree with you about 13 reasons why. The show was deliberately created to strike a chord in young female minds. We've reached critical mass of Tavistock operations created to destroy the youth. I don't know anyone my age who doesn't have depression/anxiety. These people know that the day of reckoning is coming. Young people aren't having children, are broke with nothing to lose, and eventually the lowest common denominator will figure out who is to blame, and thats when bankers and other vermin get thrown off rooftops.

usplusthem

Yep, a lot of my daughter's friends, including her, deal with depression and anxiety and my eyes are beginning to open to this epidemic. She was showing me a video the other day where in casual conversation a kid says to another kid "Hey what did you think about that play's suicide scene" and then they just keep talking like hey what else is new, how's the weather? I'm like WTF!!!! They are putting these subliminal references EVERYWHERE, and I have had it.

11-11

oh wow.

when i was young, i thought my parents were overboard when they would point out the humanism being taught in schools among other things. turns out, they didn't tell me the half of it! but at least had given me a heads up!

After trump's cry of "fake news" and pizzagate threads, one doesn't have to look far below the surface to see this.

you are correct, it is ++ e v e r y w h e r e +++ . scary everywhere.

is no wonder people buy property in idaho and build caves.

Someone on VOAT had linked this online book earlier (thank you to whoever that was) and I re link it here. May be a good thing for your daughter to read to give her a history on this stuff. "Be wise as serpents and harmless as doves"

http://www.whale.to/b/Springmeier1991.pdf

also posted here:

https://archive.org/details/BeWiseAsSerpents1991_201603

Another good book - I'm reading now - "As Lambs to the Slaughter"

usplusthem

11-11... thank you, I will check out those sources. It's surreal to think just a year ago I had no idea about so much. Now for example, your user name has more meaning.. a LOT has changed in my world view, and I am no spring chicken! lol

11-11

re your user name

me too.

I'm going to have to change it now. lol

11-11

Do you mean Millennials? (I hope spell checker worked. I still can't spell that word from memory)

If yes - I agree. I don't know what Tavistock is but I have done a ton of research on vaccines and that generation was the guinea pig. Big Pharma got their green light in 1986 and by 1989 they were plugging the schedules with all sorts of new poison.

They had added thimerisol / mercury / into the vaccines in the childhood schedule until 1999. (It was never outlawed and is still in mutli-dose Flu / tetanus and trace amounts in others.)

Anyway - that was the first generation to be systematically and legally poisoned. It has only gotten worse. It is much worse by the way.

I feel for you.

hookednosedjoooo

Youtube allowing pedo channels to stay up means that this is most likely some type of carefully crafted psyop in order to bait people into an ARG type Cicada 3301 puzzle game for goyim to invest time into while real government pedophile rings continue to operate. I remember how they started, it was a few anons rambling about "hidden MKULTRA codes" in the comment section, who knows. I think people should focus on pizzagate/ Epstein scandals because atleast we know for certain that its connected to intelligence agencies (Ghislaine mexwell and mossad)

This youtube shit is thing is being astroturfed by mainstream people like Tosh.o and then it will probably trickle down to fox news... all for what? So a couple small fish go down while the top bankers are sniffing the best CIA coke and raping children in their mansions... nah. Researchers should focus strictly on government pedophile rings,.

EDIT: I believe this is a problem, having toddlers clicking videos with sexually suggestive themes Youtube staff need to hang for creating those algorithms but be careful this is just like pizzagate, it's a trap/diversion. The code breaking shit is ARG fosho

UnicornAndSparkles

Speaking as a concerned parent I am glad people are pushing this. I understand what you mean about researching further into Pizzagate but I believe this is also one piece of a huge collaborated pie.

Solentgreenispeople

I agree this needs to be brought to peoples attention i recently checked my children's ipads and discovered that they watched some of these videos. This is scary and i wont let them watch youtube anymore