turitelle

If you haven't read Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon by Nick Bryant, its pretty eye opening about all these singers and bands that sprung up simultaneously.

Laurel Canyon in the 1960s and early 1970s was a magical place where a dizzying array of musical artists congregated to create much of the music that provided the soundtrack to those turbulent times. Members of bands like the Byrds, Buffalo Springfield, the Monkees, the Beach Boys, the Mamas and the Papas, the Turtles, the Eagles, the Flying Burrito Brothers, Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, Steppenwolf, Captain Beefheart, CSN, Three Dog Night, Alice Cooper, the Doors, and Love with Arthur Lee, along with such singer/songwriters as Joni Mitchell, Judy Collins, James Taylor, Carole King, Jackson Browne, Judi Sill and David Blue, lived together and jammed together in the bucolic community nestled in the Hollywood Hills.

But there was a dark side to that scene as well.

Many didn't make it out alive, and many of those deaths remain shrouded in mystery to this day. Far more integrated into the scene than most would care to admit was a guy by the name of Charles Manson, along with his murderous entourage. Also floating about the periphery were various political operatives, up-and-coming politicians, and intelligence personnel - the same sort of people who just happened to give birth to many of the rock stars populating the canyon. And all of the canyon's colorful characters - rock stars, hippies, murderers, and politicos - happily coexisted alongside a covert military installation.

Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon is the very strange, but nevertheless true story of the dark underbelly of a hippie utopia.

Red4reel35

I had never heard of that book thank you I'll have to pick it up

ArthurEdens

It is weird how they all showed up on the scene together so fast.

Wasn't the guy from Love in manson's crew?

The guy in the Mamas and the Papas used to pass his daughter around and raped her the night before her wedding day

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/6222916/Mamas-and-Papas-singer-had-incestuous-relationship-with-daughter.html

crackingthecode

so red4reel.. whats your point here............hmmmm;.... whats the ugly meaning...

Red4reel35

I guess you have a hard time reading or with reading comprehension . I do believe I posted what the song was eluding to in Paul Simons own words .

ScalarWhaler

So, while one of my favorite directors because of artistic originality, Wes Anderson, out of University of Texas in Austin, has a lot of themes centered around youth, uses child actors regularly in coming of age situations, and has definitely used this song in his movies... Just wondering if anyone else gets some weird vibage off of Wes's films...

carmencita

Yeah, I don't think it is the song, we should worry about, I think it is this guy's analogy of the song. People with twisted minds can almost change the meaning of anything if they try hard enough. It is about verifying what they are doing as right, in their own minds.

Tree_Snake

He's a creepy dude.

ArthurEdens

Moonrise Kingdom has some questionable scenes

Tree_Snake

I watched Moonrise Kingdom thinking, "this motherfucker's a pervert."

I love most of his films, but he seems obsessed with precocious children. I want to believe that it's some grand metaphor for peoples' inability to mature emotionally, but Moonrise was flagrant.

He's made some great films, but so has Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, Brian Singer, and David O. Russell. Michael Jackson sang well.

ArthurEdens

I hear ya. And David O Russell's kid is all messed up, you know his dad did a number on him

Red4reel35

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=2634 When asked what "Mama Pajama" saw that made her so distraught in this song, Paul Simon has said that he's not exactly sure, but he assumed it was something sexual. Simon made up a crazy little story for the song, and named the main character Julio because it sounded like a typical New York neighborhood kid (Simon grew up in Queens). What Paul didn't realize until years later was the impact the song had on Spanish-speaking listeners who were thrilled to hear a song coming out of America with a Latin name in the title.