Gbuggers

And throw away the key. Find his greatest fear and torture him in the dark for the rest of his evil pathetic life.

Are_we_sure

This a poor argument. First the code refers to text not imagery.

Secondly, you don't think they could have changed their logo because I dunno, they were getting death threats?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-louisiana-crime-idUSKBN14X0M0

Louisiana man pleads guilty to threatening shooting at D.C. pizzeria Jones was accused of calling Besta Pizza on Dec. 7 and threatened to "shoot everyone in the place" in order to "save the kids." The call was traced back to Jones in Shreveport and he was arrested, the statement said

There's no evidence that Besta pizza is connected in anyway to CPP or Podesta. There no evidence that Besta Pizza knew that their fairly generic graphic was also an obscure code used by pedophiles.

In short, there's no evidence connecting internet speculation with real world crimes.

fogdryer

It's your imagination

Azagthoth

You say that like we want this to be real. Its horrifying and very very sad.

DeathTooMasons

"Despite the fact that no one has ever explained the pedophile code language in John Podesta's personal emails".

Ummmm, I think there is a bit more than that that needs to be explained. It's as if you are saying if that can be explained, there is nothing to see here. I know you can't be suggesting that. Deavid Seaman talks like that. "John Podesta, what ARE your emails about". Time to join the Voat PG sub and learn the extent of what this is about.

LA_Trump

I know the extent of PG. But David Seaman is a total sniper, armed with logic and facts. I'm looking for ways to take back the narrative with the original Podesta emails and he actually has the best approach.

DeathTooMasons

I figured you would say that...Leave our sub? Believe me, you are not welcome here.

LA_Trump

You are willing to lose a forever ally because of selfish pride? That's what a pedophile with ulterior motives would say, believe me.

fuckfacemcgee

I'd like to see someone interview that dude on camera while he's in jail. Someone not MSM and asking real questions.

pby1000

Look at the emails in the context of the dates on the Satanic calendar. It is very interesting...

Are_we_sure

What does walnut sauce mean?

Snailracer

I think the theory floating around for the meaning of "spaghetti with walnut sauce" was as a code for brown skinned boy...

Are_we_sure

The code never existed before "pizzagate." It's fake. Pasta with Walnut Sauce is a genuine Italian dish. There's no theory at all, it was a deliberate deception. Look up walnut sauce recipe, you'll see tons of results.

TaosDeiopW

I want to throw up just because of these sick fucks.

Are_we_sure

The "pedophile code" is fake. It was a deliberate hoax.

Votescam

Would be interesting to know who really placed the flyers saying "Pizzagate is real and you have a responsibility to educate yourself about it." Could have been Media Matters, in fact ... perhaps anticipating that a larger campaign might be put in play by those researching Pizzagate. Actually, Pedo-gate is the larger story -- from the highest perspective -- as it's domestic and international.

Those running these programs and trafficking are trying to come out of their hiding places and they may be getting some help.

Rigg5

NBC is taking over for CNN. They're the emergency parachute for when the main fails.

ThePedoHunter

Hilarious

Tsuishika

Member for: 1.5 hours

No credibility to take you seriously at all. FHYYFT. You join in today and come straight here to bait then you wonder why no one wants an honest debate with you.

This_Ruined_Pizza

Then debunk it. Saying it's fake is saying it's fake. That's not proving anything.

Go ahead and prove it.

This_Ruined_Pizza

Your criminal pedo record is waaay more offensive, sicko.

shariablizzard

How many people on Voat are college educated? I honestly haven't spent much time around more 'blue collar' types; are you all like this? Just believe in asinine shit because it makes you feel emotionally good?

Eph3w

I am, but my education doesn't explain what a map related handkerchief is, nor why adults would include young childrens' ages as entertainment for a pool party, nor why spirit-cooking with excrement and other body fluids would be entertaining. What college did you attend? And please, after reading Podesta's emails, explain to us all how all of that make's sense.

Maybe I just chose the wrong major...

Ho-Chi-Min-Me

What a pathetically transparent attempt at derailment.

Magonia

Uh did I not present a project to you in my 1st reply?

Debunk the language in the original emails.

Compile a source where the words pizza and pasta and cheese are replaced with their alleged INNOCENT terminology. Even if you replace them all with the word FOOD. Screenshots of your attempts please.

It's not a difficult task if you truly believe this is all bullshit and I imagine a lot of people would join you in your quest to shame pizzagaters if you could provide these basic bitch level memes.

dickface888

Screw the the code words, how about Tam Luzatto's kids being offered up for John's entertainment in the pool. Y'know, the Tam Luzatto who offered up her baby grandchild to men for "raw and uncut" webcam time? I think that's more the question we need to be asking.

SwampAintDrained

Y'know, the Tam Luzatto who offered up her baby grandchild to men for "raw and uncut" webcam time?

First i'm hearing of this...

DeathTooMasons

Welcome new member.

SwampAintDrained

I'm not new, just never saw that particular claim. I did read the email where they stated they assured them they would be in the hot tub for entertainment.

mooteensy

This is the shit we need to be putting on fliers.

UnicornAndSparkles

What an awesome summary! Wish we could have something like this for every PG situation so it can be copied and pasted for newbies.

Ser_Snow

Commenting for further review.

tarnished_spoons

Hi John,

The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yorus? They can send it if you want. I know you're busy, so feel free not to respond if it's not yours or you don't want it.

Susaner

What does it mean for a map to be "pizza-related"? Why and how does a handkerchief have a map on it?

The simplest explanation is the sicker one.

you mean debunked

Yeah good job chief that autocorrect must mean I'm wrong though, right? Nobody is buying your shit. You're wasting your time.

PGIz_Retardeddd

What does it mean for a map to be "pizza-related"?

http://www.london-se.com/assets/map-pizza-map.jpg

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5273ea4269beddea16afe9a2-480/pizza-map03.jpg

https://s3.amazonaws.com/wapopartners.com/wweek-wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/13090915/PizzaMap.png

http://media.vogue.com/r/pass/2013/10/img-holdingpizzamap_112025985083.jpg

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/world-map-pizza-continents-planet-earth-fast-food-geography-national-italian-petite-geographical-72181929.jpg

https://www.stlmag.com/downloads/227536/download/st-louis-pizza-map-illustration.jpg?cb=eec8e77614597c297d7b7a5b9cd44bb3

ETC.

The simplest explanation is the sicker one.

No it's ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NOT. It goes completely the opposite of the occams razor.

Assuming you're following the original argument here,

http://i.imgur.com/V3bGVpA.jpg

How is the speculation that Podesta left a semen stained handkerchief kept as a memento after raping a child on the kitchen counter when he was looking for a house, and the people working there offered to mail it back to him, to which he responds that it is "not worth worrying about?" making more sense than taking that e-mail at face value?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/23561

You have to be purely insane to believe that.

Nobody is buying your shit. You're wasting your time.

I know, using facts and reason against detached from reality conspiretards is completely useless. That's why I mostly stick to mocking and ridiculing you pizzagaters for your offensive stupidity and taunting you over the fact that nothing is materializing out of pizzagate.

Gnatsunami

Found Alefantis Voat account.

Magonia

Hey fucktard, why don't YOU present a single shred of evidence that says we're wrong? Because all I see on your behalf is attacks on our intelligence and integrity. From your posts to your name. You don't do anything but complain there have been no arrests.

Well maybe not even complain... but almost like you're bragging... like we haven't "caught" you yet. So you can sit behind your screen and spout your bullshit attacks about our character but everyone here reading already knows the truth. That you're beyond logic. That you're the exact person we're trying to take down. We know who are you and who you are trying to protect and we will NEVER stop until we do. Even if that means meeting you in hell.

johnpedostalol

Yeah it is, I mean really though who has the transparency to even do these things? Nobody...

tarnished_spoons

The subject of this thread is about calling pizza gate defined despite not explaining the absurd language used by podesta. That language of the evidence this investigation was started with. If you're claiming that pizzagate is debunked without explaining that language, then you're either a shill or have mental defficiencies. You seem not retarded, though, so can you offer us an explanation?

Magonia

LMAO - the fact that you have no substance or real rebuttal is all I need to hear from you. Here's your $3.50. Go try to buy your soul back.

I honestly can't understand what would compel a decent human being to deny these facts. Children are being sexually abused and CP obviously exists. The fact that you can make light of this information just proves you are a child abuser. I can't wait until they find you.

This_Ruined_Pizza

He's a pedophile

equineluvr

This practically identical thread was made just 2-1/4 hours BEFORE THIS ONE.

You are cluttering up this forum, OP.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1972498

dickface888

I figured that, see the comment I just made pointing out that the code words are not the key thing we should be enquiring about here. This just makes people who don't know much about it think that this must be our biggest piece of evidence. Shill tactic indeed.

Magonia

We didn't distort shit. The same symbols appear on FBI website and if you're so adamant about disproving those code words then please, by all means, prove us wrong and take each and every one of those emails we subjected to scrutiny and rewrite them replacing just the code words we obsess about here with entirely innocent definitions.

Until you do that I'll just keep thinking you're a shill or a pedo who has nothing better to do than cover his own steps.

janet58

Because everybody has a pizza-related map drawn on their handkerchief and worries if they lose it.

Magonia

Yeah cuz we wrote Podesta's emails and asked about getting dinner or "pizza for an hour" fuck outta here with that shit.

JUNOAK

PGIsretarded is obnoxious but exactly right. There is no proof for the "code words" being anything other than awkwardly phrased sentences. There's a maximum 20 emails that I've seen cited (of the decades worth of emails) that have been cited by pizzagaters as "proof of code words". A majority of them are so innocuous that I believe a random survey of people would not even understand how anyone could find them unusual. The other three or four have very normal awkward phrasing which happens sometimes, especially with people as busy as they are who are sending out quick emails sometimes with their phones.

Could "pizza for an hour" simply be an awkward phrasing of "let's eat pizza in an hour"? or what if he was saying he has an hour free to eat dinner? aren't those mundane and very plausible explanations? How did anyone come to the conclusion that "pizza for an hour" is code . Here's the entire message, actually written by Tony Podesta, which people here always mix match and attribute wrong words to the wrong sources (almost as if people here were bad at critical thinking):

Mary not free Would love to get a pizza for an hour? Or come over

Do you really want to put forward "pizza for an hour" as proof of a code used by a secret criminal organization when just before he says that he typed "Mary not free". That's a more awkward phrase, is that a code too? Or is the more likely explanation that he's distracted and typing the message out quickly? You're an """""investigator"""" you tell me what's more likely?

Magonia

I understand the reluctance to believe that these are code words and it's merely circumstantial. But yes, as an investigator I would also take that into consideration when creating a profile of the perp. Especially in the case of child sexual abuse.

Pizza for an hour was the 1st one that came to mind. The most awkward and hard to decipher email IMO is the email with "P.S - do you think I'll do better playing dominoes on cheese than pasta?"

I do understand that you can simply replace "on" with the word "with" and it sounds normal. But I'm not asking you to correct the grammar or sentence structure. I'm asking about THOSE words specifically like pizza and cheese and pasta be replaced.

JUNOAK

You put down a challenge to explain the emails I'm wondering how you think I did.

JUNOAK

But I'm not asking you to correct the grammar or sentence structure. I'm asking about THOSE words specifically like pizza and cheese and pasta be replaced.

But this is my point, "Mary not free" is grammatically incorrect and just after that he says something that's awkwardly phrased. How can you look at "mary not free" and agree that that's almost certainly a grammatical error but exclude that from being an option in the very next sentence .As a fellow investigator I have to question your skills here. Always search for the most mundane and likely explanation. Mundane is almost always the truth. You have a long way to go before getting to code words.

The most awkward and hard to decipher email IMO is the email with "P.S - do you think I'll do better playing dominoes on cheese than pasta?"

That one really surprises me, I would love to put together a real random survey because I have heard that view expressed often on here. That that sentence is so awkwardly worded that it has to be code. I would love to see what a survey of people who asked what the meaning of that sentence was. I can almost guarantee that a vast majority of the people will interpret that sentence to be a joke about what his chances of winning a game were if he were eating cheese or pasta (as in "do you think I'll do better playing football on gatorade than water?"). It's a joke about the "stakes" of the game. This sentence is so innocuous I'm confused how anyone could interpret it differently unless english wasn't their native language.

Last time this email came up I did some investigation into it ( a concept that seems completely foreign to people on here). The email was sent by Hertbert Sandler, a quick google search shows that he is 85 years old so you have to imagine the things your grandfather (depending how old you are) would do and say. In other words I think you would agree that the fact that he is elderly makes it at least a little more likely that he wasn't participating in a BDSM rape orgy (like the code words would have you believe) but that maybe he was actually playing dominoes and making corny jokes like every elderly grandfather ever . He actually mentions dominoes a few times in the emails he also says " Susan whipped Sherry and me at Dominos. Using the Podesta method, she made up the rules as we played.". Man that really sounds like they're actually playing a game. That's actually about the entirety of that email to which John replies that he had fun too.

Also how would you interpret this email ? Is it a coincidence that dominoes is a game that comes in sets ? Would you refer to bdsm as a 'game' and that you would like to 'get a set'? Also this email was sent by a Susan from the Sandler center and a quick Google search shows that herb sandler has a daughter Susan. So isn't the most likely explanation that his daughter joined in the dominoes game one night and they all had a nice boring (mundane) evening?

Edit: mistyped sentence

Azagthoth

Elites dont chill out, get baked, and order dominos lol

Magonia

That's the thing that bothers me the most! It's not like we came up with these code words ourselves! We're just using the same language they do! Yet no one in the MSM seems to debunk any part of that.

Gbuggers

When all these evil poltical elites are behind bars our next agenda should be to put Every journalist that is claiming that pizzagate is aiding in the cover up of these horrific crimes against inocent children and babies by Covering it up claiming it to be fake they are allowing it to continue they are monsters just like the evil pedos and are as guilty. Lock fake news reporters up if their fake news reports covers up crimes against humanity. Its their duty to report the truth they have a choice tell the truth or say nothing but they come up with lies to protect themselves and their friends. Evil pure evil.

AlterNut

Msm = #fakenews