Laskar

No they can't. They excommunicated all the Christians of the other four patriarchates and the laypeople as well. The bishop of Rome appointed himself "supreme pontiff"--a pagan Roman title. He also proclaimed his supremacy by casting aside the existing canons, inserting heretical dogma in his newly created Creed in contradiction to the original (and still used in real Christian churches) Creed established at the council of Nicea. Oh, and he disregarded all the findings of the seven ecumenical councils and therefore everything about how the church had conducted itself since it's establishment on the day of Pentecost.

This has nothing to do with anyone opinion, but is fact, easily found out by anyone who is not brainwashed and who has freedom of conscious (which no RC person has).

The undivided church still exists today--but it has nothing to do with the thousand year old RC heterodox church, which has, through evil, spread hatred of all religion throughout the world.

Here is a timeline of church history, simplified, for those who are not able to look into it more thoroughly:

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Dxi_zxOGFKc/T-k96XepRMI/AAAAAAAAAGI/1Fi8sOusjz0/s1600/orthodox-christian-timeline.png

Takeitslow

A bit off topic but it has been rumored by many authors that Mozart was poisoned because he revealed some fremasonoc secrets in the opera Magic Flute. The Salieri poisoning thing was just a myth. These people have been at work for a while.

Dfens

Interesting. I had not heard that he was involved with the masons.

Dfens

I got my information from history class. It is well known that as the Holy Roman Empire collapsed under attack from Germanic tribes from the north they moved the capital of the surviving empire to Constantinople (now Istanbul in Turkey). The bishop of Rome naturally went with the emperor and left a contingent behind to serve the Christians living in Rome. Later, under attack from the Muslims, the remaining leadership of the Holy Roman Empire along with the Bishop moved to Moscow.

The Bishop of the Holy Roman Empire never moved back to Rome. Instead as the old Bishop moved further east the church in Rome declared their own Bishop who was appointed without succession and many say illegitimately. Certainly the Russian Orthodox church maintains that the succession was illegitimate. In fact, the priest I talked to on the subject maintained that the Russian Orthodox church was the only one that could claim direct Apostolic succession. I think he is probably right since I believe the rest of the Bishops were killed.

Edit: I should add, the rest of the Bishops were killed by Muslims, adherents to the "religion of peace."

Dfens

That is not true. The bishop of Rome moved to Constantinople and then to Moscow. There is no direct line of succession from the Apostles to the Pope. Not that there needs to be for the church to do good, but then too, nothing good is built on a lie.

Dfens

Says the Catholic church only. Originally the church was governed by 12 Bishops with the most influential of those the Bishop in Jerusalem. The official See of Rome moved to Constantinople and then to Moscow as Europe descended into the dark ages. What is now the Catholic church split off from the original church declaring their own "bishop" as pope.

GeorgeHodelDidit

Wonder how many missing muslim teenage boys were getting their asses popped?

HillBoulder

There must be something wrong with me. My first thought was "Oh Christ I can only begin to imagine what it smelled like"

goodguy1367

Probably Cardinal Pells going away party..

bopper

@Gilderoy You sound like a protestant. Sounds like you might enjoy, eschatologically speaking, the book "The Puritan Hope," from Banner of Truth, it's really good.

pby1000

Isolated event?

Shillaxe

Christianity, the ultimate sadistic blood sacrifice, love & fear mm mmm

4warned

Spiritual Communion is good, but we ha e been given MORE than that! (Think of the difference of a platonic marriage vs. a consummated marriage)! Christ established the priesthood and gave us the gift of Himself in the Eucharist. i.e. Holy Communion---the bread of angels to FEED OUR SOULS. Without the priesthood and the Holy Catholic Mass, we would have NO physical presence of Christ on earth. Christ, Himself, gave us the example to attend public worship, as He went to temple. The holy mass is the representation of Christ's sacrifice on Calvary. All Christians ( and Jews ) should be obedient to the Commandments, including keeping the Lords day holy. While we can worship God anywhere, as Christians, we are called to follow His example, which was regular public worship, Think of the Last Supper, the feast of Passover--all traditions to help us come together and thank God for all He has done .

ScientiaPotentia

They are Sabbatean Frankists who believe that by doing evil they help bring forth the Messiah.

GeorgeHodelDidit

Jew got to Jew. They do crypto real good. And invent all kinds of shit like Jesuits. House of Saud. Attaturk. They are rats infiltrating everything they can.

DNA testing.....we got to do it. We dont even have to force them. Just leak the CIA data base on DNA. You know the Jesuits in the CIA probably had all their Jew blood tested decades ago. So they know where to send the Halloween Cards to each other.

ScientiaPotentia

I'm actually one of those types who think normal Jews are innocent and are actually on our side. It's because I know most Jews are good decent people who aren't sectarian and would help their fellow man. They are Torah Jews or Secular Jews. The reason why we know about the Sabbatean Frankists is because of these good Jews (Chemish, Antelman, etc.). They are sounding the alarm bells but most people aren't listening or simply don't understand. We need to help the good Jews because they are trying to help us. The Sabbatean Frankists are smart and we can't decode their plans without them. They are a small sect of Jews along with gentile psychopaths.

There are numerous examples of Jews in Hollywood who are trying to tell the world without getting themselves killed. Look at the movie Sausage Party. Seth Rogen et al. are trying to let the secret out in plain site. His character says it multiple times in the film.

HollandDrive

The New Testament church is Presbyterian and representative in its government, not hierarchical. To correct this and other absurdities is what the Great Reformation was about.

4warned

Amen, and the gates of hell shall not prevail.

LightSource

Perhaps but im starting to think Christianity might all be made up to get the masses to worship other spirits than the one true God

LightSource

Its obvious to me..i see auras & his is oozing EVIL!

Ann_laurie

The fourth prophesy of Fatima was that false doctrine would infiltrate the church and the church would become corrupt.

LightSource

Without the Catholic Church, millions of innocent children would not have been raped tortured & murdered..fuck the bible

LightSource

Pope Benedict is also a fucking devil!!! Blackmailed & forced out so he could keep all his skeletons in his faggot closet!!!

Judgejewdy

The Bible was taught in Latin, not a language of "the people." It wasn't until Martin Luther translated it into a common tongue (in his case,German) that ordinary people (not scholars, lawyers, etc) could read God's word. Until then, they had to just hope they were being taught the truth. Sadly, by that point many were so indoctrinated that no amount of bible reading would make a difference.

Dfens

God's word, according to the Bible, is Jesus, not some dead book.

BlowjaySimpson

No, I am fucking sick of pussies who have to hear "well not ALL are" to get on with a discussion that uses a generalization. It's a massive fucking religion with billions of people. I am going to fucking generalize if I damn well please ya niggerfaggot.

Dfens

It occurs to me that the Muslims say the same thing.

Commoner

Amen!

Dfens

That is not true. The Bible dates back to the Council of Nicea in 325 AD. There was no Catholic Church at that point. There was only one church.

quantokitty

So damned embarrassing. They're not even trying to hide it anymore.

Laskar

The real problem is that the Roman Catholic Chruch is not even the real Christian church, but one invented in 1054 when the bishop of Rome excommunicated all the other Christians of the remaining four patriarchates.

Commoner

Do you know who started the Catholic Church?

Commoner

The Catholic Church was infiltrated by Gays decades ago as part of a plan to undermine the Church from within. For years they have turned away 'conservative' young men from seminaries in an effort to change the Church. People have not left the Church because of its traditional beliefs, they left it because the new gay liberal priests did not stand for Catholic tenets.
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Dfens

The Protestants split from the Catholic church over corrupt practices that amounted to selling salvation for gold. The Catholic church has turned their back on almost all of those practices and yet continues the "celibate priest" tradition despite the fact that it has probably the most tenuous basis in either the bible or tradition. None the less, they cling to that tradition even when it is a clear and obvious threat to the very existence of the church. There has got to be a reason for that.

Edit: The Orthodox Church, from which the Catholics split beginning in the 2nd Century does not have nor has it ever had celibate priests. There is no tradition of that in Judaism as well.

Commoner

Their tradition is not their downfall. Abandoning their tradition has been their downfall. There is no priest shortage either . That was a planned shortage to convince people that priest should marry. If you want a religion where ministers can marry and is non-traditional, there are plenty to pick from. You don't need to "change' Catholicism.

Dfens

Catholicism was changed to stop selling salvation. There is no shame in changing to do what is right.

GeorgeHodelDidit

Never trust a man that isnt interested in fucking women. God favors procreation. Your body is your temple and celibacy is mental illness. Period.

4warned

Thanks @Commoner , for your defense of our Catholic Church instituted by Christ.

Commoner

You are welcome.

Dfens

If you're trying to justify the church taking money for salvation, you're wrong. If your point is to justify the celibacy mandate for Catholic priests, then certainly, let's follow tradition. For the first 1,000 years of Christianity celibacy was not required for any Christian religious leaders and the Apostles themselves were often married. In fact, the so called tradition of celibacy stemmed from the gnostic heresy and has no legitimate place in Christian tradition.

LightSource

Fuck that unnatural faggot tradition!!! Denying sexuality is the same as denying God

Commoner

who is doing that?

LightSource

Celibate clergyman

bopper

Predicted to come about, in the NT, including "Good Friday" where meats are not to be eaten.

"Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."

numbtoyou

If you look at the ruling class and look at who the devil is of the bible, ain't hard to tell who is who.

Commoner

If there were no kids involved, why would the police break up an orgy? Is there a law against it in Italy?

Dfens

Drugs.

Commoner

Thanks. That makes more sense.

SecondAmendment

I'm devastated by this news. So many wonderful Christians had faith in not only God and Christ but also in this church, and these filthy pigs have devastated us with their illegal and evil behavior. I hope the lid's blown off fully and the criminals hiding behind Christ come out from the dark and face their punishments, both here on earth and in the afterlife. . . .

tehpatriarchy

So many wonderful Christians had faith

Daily reminder that faith is an unreliable source of knowledge.

LightSource

Never put your faith in man..especially men who wear dresses & dont touch pussy!!!

GeorgeHodelDidit

Any man who isnt ugly or mentally ill has no excuse for not wanting to have sex with adult women. Joining the Church is just cover so they can join a pedophile cult and fuck kids to their hearts content.

Dfens

It's hard to say if they'll get justice in this world, but I hope there is a special place in hell for those who abuse children and the faith of the true Christians.

Dfens

Oh yeah, let's see what kind of governing system they have when those offering plates show up empty a few times. I'll bet it would turn into a democracy real damn quick.

Commoner

No kidding!

Warmoose76

Lol I don't know why any one would be Catholic. I'm not really a fan of any religion but Catholics are especially stupid.

JohnnySkidmarx

Put bullets in the back of their heads.

Mammy

Catholics, Jews, Politicians, Police Departments, CIA, Hollyweird, Bankers, Planned Parenthood, Art Foundations, Kids' Opera House, Public Schools, State Universities, Private Schools, Private Universities, Disney, Ice Cream Parlors and of course, PIZZA joints. For the love of God, is there ANYWHERE a kid might be safe anymore?

Omnicopy

No I doubt it

carmencita

Upon locating the prelate himself, the police arrested him and sent him to the Pío XI clinic for detoxification. He is currently in retreat in a convent in Italy. Hmm. I think that Ratzinger is holed up in an Italian guarded Convent as well. Could they be together? Also, I am wondering if this was not engineered by the Vatican to prove they are Cleaning House and doing a Complete Clean Sweep. You know, they would not approve of such nasty shenanigans. But, who knows, maybe someone has had enough of this and is warning them to cool it or that they mean business.

remedy4reality

The entire Catholic Church appears to be a club of kid raping faggots posing as Christians.

Omnicopy

Remedy4reality Now you get it!!!

Laskar

They really are just posing, too. The damage they have done has turned countless away from true Christianity and will have to answer for this.

LightlyToasted

Such a great factoid: in the apartment tasked with combating sexual abuse. You couldn't script this stuff!

Laskar

Exactly. That's what they like to do--hide in plain sight--and it's worked for them for a long time. Now they are being outed to distract from the the larger guilt of certain (((people))). It was all okay until people started digging and found the root cause, which goes way back to times before the invention of the RC church in 1054 AD for the purpose of making war, controlling monarchs, and looting the world, spreading the usurious banking of the ((( "Knights Templar")))

Commoner

It is not the Catholic Church. It is the intentional planned infiltration of the Catholic Church by liberal gay pedophiles. This is the result of a plan that has been in effect for decades.

ScalarWhaler

Who were the Cathars anyway?

remedy4reality

so close.. but yet... so far

hookednosedjoooo

I got to church for God, not some faggot priest

Dfens

So really then it is God that's screwing these children? You'd better hope God gets crappy internet service.

Commoner

I suppose it is taxpayers screwing all the kids in DC too.

Dfens

In a democracy we bear the responsibility for what our government does.

Verite1

The only way I've been able to broach this topic with asleep liberals is by discussion of the show "The Keepers." People are beginning to watch it and connect the dots and the second most powerful tool is what's happening in the Catholic Church. This latest break up is on the heels of charges against Cardinal Pell, who is been called "sociopathic" and one of the enablers to the covering up of child sex abuse. I know ppl who have denounced and permanently left the Church as a result of finding out they are part of the root of this problem but how to reach the masses? I mean Spotlight was Oscar nominiated and it's like ppl have short memory.

Dfens

It troubles me that Christianity has become a Democrat/Republican issue. And when you bring that up you get what amounts to, "they started it." The money changer's tables need to be overturned.

pizzaequalspedo

There is plenty of blame to go around. Both sides are in on this. Plenty of good Catholics who are D's and R's, who need to demand better from their religious leaders.

Verite1

Agreed

Dfens

Absolutely.

DeathTooMasons

I haven't read the article yet, but are Gay orgies illegal? I assume they are not. So the pigs were a massive cock block no? Give me time to read this one, drinking whiskey and almost spit it out reading the title. Stop the world, I want to get off....so to speak.

Commoner

I thought the same thing you did. Another comment posted an article that said drugs were involved.

carlip

His former secretary... Really stretching it here kids.

Dfens

Isn't it well past time Christians took back their church?

Markb63

Vatican City is Sodom and Gamorah.

bopper

The Roman Church is a "perversion of Christianity" as a minister of Trump's mum's church so ably puts it ... this same church (denomination) "brought down" Lord Mackay of Clashfern for attending a papal funeral mass and let the church split into they took it so seriously. I knew this minister very well, in the clip, quite imposing people over there, extremely strict Protestantism. It was an international story at the time. Warning, RC's prepare to be offended.

https://youtu.be/dwUWpTB9sEE?t=113

Blaster2

Vatican police have raided a cardinal's apartment where a drug-fuelled homosexual orgy was taking place.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11886097

AugustaJulia

Were some of them underage?

pizzaequalspedo

And when they say "drug fueled homosexual orgy" they really mean "drug fueled, Satanic homosexual orgy".

These guys are just lucky the police didn't pop in when they were sacrificing a child.

crashing_this_thread

The whole church is degenerate as fuck from the top down.

HighLevelInsider

Knights of Malta and the Jesuits are involved in a lot of this.

LightlyToasted

When are we going to go after their tax-exempt status?

Laskar

The Roman Catholic Church, since it's beginning in 1054 has perverted Christianity and been haven for homosexual pedos. they even were castrating "orphan" boys to sings in their choirs as recently as the early 20th century.

The original, unchanged, and whole Orthodox Christian Church does not have this problem, it's parish priests are married men and always have been.

srayzie

Why does it seem like they're always gay??

Laskar

Because they usually are. If you look that ecclesiology, you can see why.

pby1000

They like the flamboyant costumes.

Commoner

Most likely the Orthodox Christian Church was not purposely infiltrated by liberals in an effort to bring it down. The Catholic Church is much larger and broader. Once it was taken down, the other churches would die too.

Laskar

Actually, it was infiltrated for most of the twentieth century. The RC church presently has more members, but it is headed by a temporal warlord over all, has embassies throughout the world, owns property, schools, and businesses, has a central Rothschild bank, their own currency, issues passports, has their own secret police as well as Intelligence services, etc. and is centered in the Vatican which is a country, not a spiritual entity. How is it even a church? We are not even getting into all the torture, and burning at the stake and the castration of orphan boys (right up to the early twentieth century). How anyone can believe this has to do with Christianity is a testament to their Madison Avenue PR firm, like Saudi Arabia, who now sits on the UN commission on women's rights.

The (((Bolsheviks))) crucified or tortured to death over 300,000 priests in the first three years alone--sometimes nailing them to the doors of their churches (they did the same with nuns), but today the Orthodox church in Russia has revived to an amazing degree and will play a significant role in history in the years to come. During the rule of (((Soviets))), no synagogues were destroyed and Jews practiced their religion openly with many laws to protect them. The Orthodox church simply went underground (as it did in the first three centuries--it was essentially a catacomb church for over 70 years.

Lenin actually made deals with the pope of the RC church to exchange priceless relics and stolen valuables (jewels, icons, liturgical utensils) for gold and cash. He deposited this loot stolen from people and from all the churches in a Swiss bank account. The bishop of Rome thought he would, in exchange, be able to enter Russia and persecute Orthodox Christians who would not convert to be RC --just as the RC have done through the centuries in these examples: in Palestine during the so-called crusades (and today), in Spain during the "Inquisition" and even in the US, in California where Jesuits tortured to death a native American Orhtodox priest (St. Peter the Aleut) as recently as the nineteenth century--to name but a few.

Now that the KGB archives are open anyone can learn what happened and many books have been written on it, now even in English translation. The astounding number of martyrs and miracles dwarfs that of the early church, to say nothing of the Greek Orthodox Christian Martyrs under 400 years of Turkish brutality and oppression. How about the millions of Armenians, Greeks and Syrians--all Orthodox Christians slaughtered by the (((Donmeh))) in the Ottoman Empire in the early 20th century, before the British and other world powers divided up the Middle East for their profit?

If you do not want to look this up on your own, let me know and I can supply plenty of excellent sources, if interested.

Blaster2

From forums.catholic.com

Vatican: Police bust into gay drug orgy in priest's apartment

Italian police have broken into the apartment of Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio's ex-secretary, located in the palace of the former Holy Office in the Vatican, where a gay drug orgy was taking place, Italian media reported.

Upon locating the prelate himself, the police arrested him and sent him to the Pío XI clinic for detoxification. He is currently in retreat in a convent in Italy.

The intervention of the security forces came as a result of complaints about the constant arrival of guests to the apartment. Likewise, suspicions appeared regarding the luxury car with the license plate of the Holy Seat that had said prelate.

Russia Today en Español https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/242889-policia-interrumpe-orgia-gay-

Il Fatto Quotidiano (Italian) http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2017/06/28/vaticano-fermato-un-monsignore-festini-gay-e-droga-nel-palazzo-del-santuffizio/3691426

Terra (Spanish) https://www.terra.com/noticias/orgia-gay-vaticano-francesco-coccopalmerio,4010159d34285e353db84da07eb9bd37k2whn7kk.html

carmencita

Thanks For This! We don't make this stuff up. We don't have to, for they are doing it. Very Holy Cow!

derram

https://archive.is/q6jhI | :

Vatican police 'break up gay orgy at apartment' | Daily Mail Online

"Vatican police have broken up a gay orgy at the home of the secretary to one of Pope Francis's key advisers, it has been reported."

'The claims were embarrassing to the Vatican, which under Pope Francis has attempted to demand high standards of the clergy. '

'Reports in Italy claim the occupant of the apartment is allegedly the secretary to Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio - a key aide to the 80-year-old Pope. '

'It is the latest scandal to hit the Vatican and comes after its finance chief Cardinal George Pell was charged with historical sexual offences. '

'In March the Vatican was hit with a wave of lurid accusations of misbehaving priests across Italy with scandals involving orgies, prostitution and porn videos. '

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