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During that time, US/CIA created Taliban/Al Qaeda and funded it thru ISI-Pakistan, even after 9/11 --

The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser

Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs <"From the Shadows">, that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

Q: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Q: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

http://www.takeoverworld.info/brzezinski_interview_shor ...

AND our corrupt government has done all it can to create a violent strain of Islam and to create violence all over the world.

The US spent $100's of millions shooting down Soviet helicopters yet didn't spend a penny helping Afghanis rebuild their infrastructure and institutions.

They also spent millions producing jihad preaching, fundamentalist textbooks and shipping them off to Afghanistan. These were the same text books the Western media discussed in shocked tones and told their audiences were used by fundamentalist teachers to brainwash their charges and to inculcate in young Afghanis a jihad mindset, hatred of foreigners and non-Muslims etc.

Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal?

Or perhaps I should say, "Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal that's waiting to happen?"

Because it has been almost unreported in the Western media that the US government shipped, and continues to ship, millions of Islamist textbooks into Afghanistan.

Only one English-speaking newspaper we could find has investigated this issue: the Washington Post. The story appeared March 23rd.

Washington Post investigators report that during the past twenty years the US has spent millions of dollars producing fanatical schoolbooks, which were then distributed in Afghanistan.

"The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system's core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books..." -- Washington Post, 23 March 2002 (1)

According to the Post the U.S. is now "...wrestling with the unintended consequences of its successful strategy of stirring Islamic fervor to fight communism."

So the books made up the core curriculum in Afghan schools. And what were the unintended consequences? The Post reports that according to unnamed officials the schoolbooks "steeped a generation in violence."

How could this result have been unintended? Did they expect that giving fundamentalist schoolbooks to schoolchildren would make them moderate Muslims?

Nobody with normal intelligence could expect to distribute millions of violent Islamist schoolbooks without influencing school children towards violent Islamism. Therefore one would assume that the unnamed US officials who, we are told, are distressed at these "unintended consequences" must previously have been unaware of the Islamist content of the schoolbooks.

But surely someone was aware. The US government can't write, edit, print and ship millions of violent, Muslim fundamentalist primers into Afghanistan without high officials in the US government approving those primers.

http://www.tenc.net/articles/jared/jihad.htm

Jimmy Carter seemed at times to be trying to get some info out -- though he pretty much never did . Carter is part of the Establishment which means protecting it. Carter actually took the US out of the Russian Olympics at that time because of the Russian "invasion" of Afghanistan, though there was much criticism of that move as many thought that we should allow our athletes to go at any rate and perhaps wear black armbands. We haven't had a liberal president come to power since the coup on JFK and our "people's government" on 11/22/63.

Also remember that Carter evidently slept through the setting up of the October Surprise/Reagan "Win" and, as well, the failure of the Desert Rescue Mission where at least one or two helicopters went down. Difficult to know at times whether Carter was dumb or playing dumb.

Those missions were headed up by Oliver North in Command, and Secord second in command. At some point it was discovered that the helicopters were missing the sand shield which would have kept sand out of the motors of the helicopters.

There was also a confirming story by John Tunnheim who headed up the Panel on the 1993 JFK Classified Records Act where Tunnheim and the Panel revealed that they had unanimously found that "Oswald was employed by the CIA working on high level assignments and probably also for the FBI." At the end of the History Chanel/Discovery Channel program (at the time they were calling themselves "The Network for the New Millennia") Tunnheim repeated that announcement TWICE while the TEXT appeared below on the screen as he spoke.

After a few weeks the program disappeared and later I have read that Carter had alerted Bill Moyers and Lady Bird Johnson about the program and that authorities had visited the network and confiscated all copies of the program.

Additionally, from day one of the assassination, our journalists were asking for the employment and work records of Oswald which were always denied them. Of course, those records would have been included in the records which the Tunnheim Panel were able to review.

Thanks for the leads to the Cathy O'Brien book -- I'm aware of her story but have never actually read the book -- nor the quoted part of it.

Absolutely. Totally Agree. An Intellegent Farmer. If you can enjoy a good living off the land then you don't have to compromise youself by joining silly secret clubs to get ahead in life.

OP Eagle Claw worked out well for him.

By going to "Cathy O'Brien Gynecology Appointment", a YouTube video is viewable where one can see the carving. The 9:00 minute mark is where she is in the doctor's office, but the entire video is enlightening. In addition, the D C Hammond Greenbaum speech describes in detail how much of this came about.

The scarification on her vagina has been independently verified by an obgyn

No. She could be mentally ill.

What is the name of the book?

It's so stomach churning that I was sceptical when I first read this passage 20 years ago. Now that we imagine Hillary to be complicit in far more nefarious crimes than this - on the balance of probability it's more likely that she's telling the truth than not. How could you make this stuff up? My first upvoat for you, sir.