â–¼ RweSure

So you found found good and solid evidence here, contemporary account from someone who cared about Seth. Someone who posted this before any conspiracy nonsense got out and, of course the reaction is

HE'S NOT DEAD

CIA FRONT

SKETCHY "near engagmenet, religion? " MANIPULATION

THE BRITISH!

Unbelievable. No, actually Predictable.

As for his relationship, I do not believe they were broken up. I believe they were arguing about him taking a new job on the Clinton Campaign which would have meant moving to Brooklyn. She didn't want to move with him.

â–¼ truthseekertx

Yup. Very odd to see people pushing the theory he's alive and lous is a CIA front.

Arguing about his new out of town job is very likely and isn't far fetched at all. Explains the accounts from employees at Lous who said he was depressed. Would explain the long phone calls to mulka afterwards too.

â–¼ 9920833?

Have you guys been keeping up with George Webb and Jason Goodman's reportage? One consensus is that the parents of Seth Rich are not acting like how parents of a dead child would act. They are all, "yeah we don't really need closure thanks...stop helping....we know he was murdered but like let's get over it already and honor his memory and not ask any more questions about the murderers...kthanx"

This is not how humans work sorry. It's how mkultra victims work ( have you seen their disneyfication of their house and their weird mirroring eyes affectation? )

or how spooks work (as in seth is now in protective custody or witness protection somewhere far far away and has changed his name to Jona Goldberg

Anyway, oh. And the autopsy report. Lots of things dont add up and there's clearly a campaign of STFU going on about it. That is not typical--that is a cover up for certain.

The facts point to all of us not knowing definitively if he is dead.

â–¼ equineluvr

"She goes on to mention that she saw him there at the bar shortly before his murder."

What "MURDER?" Sans a DEATH CERTIFICATE and an AUTOPSY REPORT, there is NO DEATH, let alone a "murder."

NO HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION BEGINS WITHOUT THESE DOCUMENTS. Ergo, this is a complete waste of time.

â–¼ UnicornAndSparkles

Cue a 2 shot suicide to the back of the head in 3 .. 2 .. 1 ..

â–¼ DarkMath

Interesting but still isn't hard proof Seth Rich is dead. When you mix that with the fact Lou's Bar is a CIA cut-out then any claim in this post needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

"She goes on to mention that she saw him there at the bar shortly before his murder. "

That could be taken either way. If they faked his death then they'd have him be seen immediately before his murder wouldn't they?

:-D

â–¼ Smyrtz

I agree. My gut tells me her post is sketchy. First and last names of those who were there? Touching on his "near engagement"? Religion? This screams manipulation.

â–¼ truthseekertx

Matt couch and his team went to D.C. and spoke to the Medical Examiner. The director of communications Leshon Beamon emailed them the cause and manner of death listed on the death certificate. So at this time, i'm pretty confident he is dead. https://twitter.com/RealMattCouch/status/886790082048520192

â–¼ DarkMath

" Leshon Beamon emailed them the cause and manner of death "

A person's word doesn't count for anything. Only a physical death certificate matters and I haven't seen one yet.

:-D

â–¼ UnicornAndSparkles

For the sake of fighting Pizzagate I must be honest .. I hope you are right and he is alive. With document after document of proof.

â–¼ truthseekertx

So you think the Medical Examiner and now the Communications Director are involved in the cover up? You know...the more people involved in a cover up, the higher chance someone's cover is blown. If your putting a hit on someone, you want the least amount of people to know about it. You think they faked his death and got medical examiners, directors, the people at the funeral, etc...all sat in a room to plot out how to fake a death? Cmon. Yes, I'd like to see the death certificate, but lets be real...we know the family is not gonna release it. And because he doesn't release it, doesn't mean we should all assume he is alive. Not knocking what you believe. If you want to follow the path that he is alive...what proof have you found? There is more proof out there that he is actually dead, then there is of him being alive. Just saying.

â–¼ DarkMath

"I'd like to see the death certificate, but lets be real."

Yes, let's be real. It shouldn't be hard to see a physical death certificate. The fact none has been produced is all I need to know.

Regarding your disbelief at the government lying I'd suggest you read up on the Smith-Mundt "Modernization" Act of 2012 which literally allows the U.S. Government to literally lie to the American people, staging hoax shootings is easily justified legally.

â–¼ truthseekertx

It shouldn't be hard? Have you heard of HIPAA? Officials bound by HIPPA laws can't just willingly go and share death certificates with the public, for their peace of mind.

Honest question, aside from the death certificate not being produced, what evidence have you seen that shows he is alive?

â–¼ 2impendingdoom

Does HIPAA apply in cases of Fraud or Crime? Since Seth was shot and injuries caused by an unknown assailant, HIPPA may not apply.

â–¼ DarkMath

The biggest piece of evidence for me is the brother laughing through the interview immediately after Seth Rich's death.

Then there's the possibility Hillary and Podesta didn't know who the real leaker was but still needed to make an example of someone. So they chose Seth and told him they were going to fake his death.

Also there's the British consular official that supposedly Seth Rich met. No one in the British government should be trusted. Full Stop.

â–¼ truthseekertx

I agree the brother laughing was odd. But isn't proof of Seth being alive in any way.

The other stuff you mentioned sounds like a real stretch. Saying Seth is alive because he met a British consular official is just way out there. Sorry. If you can prove something I'd back you up. But just cuz he met a british official is in no way evidence of his being alive.

And for them to say hey Seth let's fake your death. We need you to go into hiding the rest of your life. We'll also need to coordinate with All the first responders, doctors, the funeral home, etc., and we want to do this all to prove a point to anyone who may want consider leaking in the future. Do you mind going into hiding forever?

Sounds a bit much. Like I said, if your gonna take someone out, you want the least amount of people involved. The more people involved the greater a chance there is at something slipping from someone. Just sounds too unrealistic. Can't imagine Seth loving America as much as he did and then being cool with never showing his face here again just to please Clinton and Podesta.

Appreciate your take on it though.

â–¼ DarkMath

"the brother laughing was odd. But isn't proof of Seth being alive in any way."

It's enough for me. I saw the same thing with the Sandy Hook parents. No sane person is going to laugh at a moment like that.

I know a guy who couldn't stand his brother. He would go on for hours about what a piece of shit his brother was. Then one day his brother died, he fell of a roof. The same guy was inconsolable for months. I couldn't believe it.

The brother laughing means Seth Rich is alive. There's no question in my mind.

â–¼ truthseekertx

I respect your take on it.

I just personally feel that a statement from the Director of Communications from the Department of Forensic science confirming the homicide and the funeral that was held, has more merit than...His brother laughed, so Seth must certainly be alive. I mean we all know people handle deaths differently. A brother laughing, while odd, is not proof of anything. I've seen family laugh in the days after a death. For all we know, the cameraman tripped and fell over and he inadvertently laughed. Either way...dead or alive...I hope the truth comes out soon.

â–¼ DarkMath

Fair enough. Just to be sure you're not a shill what is your take on Sandy Hook? Was it real or a Smith-Mundt 2012 mass shooting hoax designed to tilt public opinion towards an assault weapons ban.

â–¼ truthseekertx

Sandy hook was staged in my opinion. Robbie Parker was waaay more unusual than Aaron rich. He literally was laughing with a cocky look and says "We ready to start" or something similar. The "We need to talk about Sandy Hook" video and Wolfgang Halbig and his hearings, really woke me to all the oddities that lead me to really believe this was entirely staged. The pushing gun control couldn't have been any more obvious than this 2 minute video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70v8we9ivIc , where the asshole talks about how his young little daughter was upset she didn't get to tell Obama that she had hoped "legislation could be passed to where only military and police officers could own guns". Can't get any more obvious than that. What 8 year old girl understands the concept of passing legislation and I highly doubt she came up with the idea of military and officers owning guns only. Absolutely ridiculous.

No shill here. Sorry to disappoint. Just deep into the SCR case and from everything i've read and what makes sense to me, is that he is deceased.

â–¼ DarkMath

"Just deep into the SCR case"

So am I. And I'm not busting your balls about it. I think a difference of opinion is GOOD for this debate. We've been lied to for so long only a select few at the top know the whole truth.

I'm prepared for the worst. As in I think the 100% Truth is going to be absolutely unfathomable. We're only seeing maybe %50 of the real story. I'm 100% convinced of that.

â–¼ truthseekertx

Agreed.

â–¼ DerivaUK

With you there DM. Also, nothing in that video of the parents and the smiling brother told me he was dead. Nothing.

â–¼ Smyrtz

For me, it's the ping at the abandoned hospital and the fact that we don't know where he was between 1:30am and 4:19 am. Oh, and the lack of investigation by police, and the witness who said Seth was walking to the ambulance and didn't know he was shot. It doesn't add up.