AngB23

I hope @swordfish69 also has a Twatter acct or some back up seeing how voat has been crashing/attacked all morning. Very fishy considering time sensitive info everyone is waiting on.

quantokitty

Yeah, this is horrible! If he has the goods, he'll get through. And there are enough places to park it so people can see. SF69 is a smart guy/girl so I have faith in hiim/her getting the job one. The question is whether he has the goods?

We'll all waiting for find out.

AngB23

Exactly. I'm hoping whatever is leaked will wake people up

quantokitty

If it's what's promised, and what some have hinted at, it'll be HUGE, MONUMENTAL, a GAME CHANGER!

Come on, @swordfish69 !!!!

cantsleepawink

Yesterday was the first time I've ever heard of Lina Morgana, and the whole story is disturbing. Then I also find that Ms Gaga has an 'alter ego' called "Morgana Devacelli". http://imgur.com/a/uX2QX That's just sick. Things that make you go hmmm...

quantokitty

It is sick.

Didn't know about the alter ego. So she took Morgana's name? That's royally screwed up. Wonder what they did to that girl? Maybe Morgana wouldn't play along? I notice in the video, Rob said he was interested in Lina's "dark side." Maybe they were exploiting some things that happened to her? Whatever happened is perverse, diabolical, and outright evil.

cantsleepawink

Yes, and the crow on her head is a symbol of death. Some seriously twisted stuff.

quantokitty

Yes, crows have historically symbolized that.

thelandofchocolate

I think people are missing what's really happening here... but if I'm right, it might be best if I don't spoil it by saying anything.

quantokitty

I'm sure I'm missing what's really happening. I'm following up on these until Swordfish69 posts his evidence.

I'm counting on him/her coming through.

kazza64

fame is a dirty business

quantokitty

Evidently. Imagine wanting something so badly that you'd get involved in destroying a life.

More like an obsession. No wonder Morgana Devacelli seeks out whores like Maria Abramovic to ease her conscience and tell her what she did was right. In fact, now that I'm thinking about it, Abramovic said she'd met "her twin". It was when she was first starting out and before she made her millions. Such a weird story, but then who are we talking about?

angry_mob

i don't buy this. & lady gaga has a MUCH better voice than Lina. she's ok, but Gaga is the talent here. a blonde wig is not an identity.

quantokitty

Not true. Gaga is auto tuned. Britney is also. Don't you hear Simon Cowell complaining about singers being auto tuned?

angry_mob

i never said she wasn't auto tuned, all pop stars are auto tuned. but gaga has a much stronger voice. when they auto tune, they only do it for small parts of the song, i don't see how you can have a career and be auto tuned 100% of the time. so i can hear gaga's real voice easily, and she can sing. the other chick was breathy & pitchy, two things i don't like. however, i'm not that into pop music, more into metal & blues.

quantokitty

You just said it ... you're not into pop music.

This isn't about whose better. You think there aren't a lot of people who are better singers than Madonna? The thing was she was different. She had a style. Style is almost more important than talent ... as are song choices. It's Lina's style ... her identity she stole ... and that shot her to the top. Now that you've seen Lina, look at Stefani's old shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PfU8Y08d2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px3WR3iFa_A

THAT'S what her act was! It was the polished, mesmerizing performance of Lina. Stefani didn't have the wigs or wardrobe. You can see that for yourself. Lina was doing that. So then why did Stefani start doing it after Lina was dead? Answer: because she STOLE it! She copied it. That combined with Fusari's coaching propelled her to the top. Everyone thought she was so "ORIGINAL". Yeah! Originality that was COPIED.

Look, I'm not going to explain this to you anymore. You clearly don't get it. But if any of those metal or blues singers/groups you like copied someone you like, you'd know it right? You'd go, "Hey! They just copied the song of such and such CD!" It's considered being non-original and bad form to do it, but if you want to give the spirit cooking monster named Gaga a pass, so be it.

RweSure

There's dozens of professional backup singers with great voices who aren't stars.

In addition to singing, she's an instrumentalist and a songwriter. She plays piano and guitar, which basically lets you write songs in a lot of genres.

She was working at the top levels of the music industry as a songwriter before she put out an album.

In addition to writing all the tracks on her album, GaGa has previously written for Fergie, the Pussycat Dolls, Britney Spears and New Kids on the Block.

This was when when she was like 22 years old. I don't like pop acts, but the woman is talented.

AngB23

PizzaPartyMusic-Lady Gaga https://imgur.com/a/1OU0M

quantokitty

Why do I get the feeling they're not talking about pizza?

ThePuppetShow

Okay, so first off, I've been led to believe the official Swordfish leaks are not official. I don't know for certain that they're not

You do know for certain they aren't..

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2013884/9934753

AngB23

Ok, what is going on with the Swordfish/Swordfish69? SF69 has researched a shit ton here so now we say it's fake? That makes zero sense. Maybe s/he set up multiple acts that are similar & not exact. Or what am I missing?

ThePuppetShow

Swordfish69 confirmed that the leaks that were presented earlier as being theirs were not theirs. Check the link.

Edit: Sorry, that isn't the right link.. Here is the direct one..

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2013884/9934559

AngB23

Thanks @ThePuppetShow . Confused a bit now. I read that line from SF69 differently than that. I guess if SF69 wasn't the same SF of the ultimatum, that should have been way more clear, bcuz in same thread, this was said https://imgur.com/a/1gnjp

Either way, whoever it is, I'm damn happy they threw it out there.

ThePuppetShow

SF69 is the person from the ultimatum, not from the "leaks" yesterday morning.

On a side note.. Voat is being really weird today. I replied to your comment once probably about 10 minutes ago and it isn't showing up.?.

Edit: BTW get your popcorn ready, today is supposed to be the day.

AngB23

I guess I missed the "leaks"?? The thread MFalcon posted with the 3 links? I thought that seemed way off. And ya, this site is lagging, shutting down, back up like crazy.

ThePuppetShow

Yes.. he deleted them and reposted them.

Yep.. Probably a DOS attack Soneone is worried.

quantokitty

Yes, sir. I do know for certain they aren't.

Requesting permission to look behind curtain, sir!

ThePuppetShow

You can do what you want, I'm not yours or anyones superior. I was just pointing out that you said you didn't know and you do.

quantokitty

I thought I would phrase it politely.

ThePuppetShow

Me too.

2impendingdoom

who goes to coin conventions?

quantokitty

Good point. I was like, what?

carmencita

Exactly. You would think they would come up with something more believable. Like a Comic Book Convention. A Coin Convention?

quantokitty

Comic book would have worked.

carmencita

Yes, the coin thing I think almost draws suspicion. Like what a weird thing, Really? It made me wonder when I read it. How campy.

quantokitty

I know. Must be a significance. Maybe it's money ... loose change? Chump change? Like she didn't matter?

Also think about how things trickle down. You have all these kids bullying now and they try to get the victim to commit suicide. Interesting, right?

carmencita

It is beyond interesting. It is scary. We never did things like that. We teased about your last name or things like that. The boys did not even swear in front of the girls. Now the girls swear like truck drivers or dock workers. This is degrading and wearing on our moral fiber. I don't mean like letting a word go here and there, I mean constantly and bragging about it. It shows they have little respect for who they are with and for themselves.

quantokitty

It's true. And videoing them bullying and committing violence. Forget about the police, my parents would have had me in lockdown for about a hundred years.

But notice this is all being done when the alt left is touting PCness and sensitivity. How can it be all right for kids to kill each other in high school bathrooms when you can't wear a Hawaiian shirt to a barbecue because it's culturally appropriation? We're nitpicker Nazis about nonsense and letting major crimes go by the wayside? Yup, drugs and violence are just fine, but don't you dare wear that shirt!

We've got our priorities straight.

carmencita

Hah. Yeah, maybe it is because We've got THEIR priorities straight. We have let our children run amok.

quantokitty

Yes. It goes along with the government deciding what's best and they're a bunch of apologists. The parents reflect that. Anything their kids do is fine because the government says drugs dealers are cool, gangs are family, and fornication with children is okay.

carmencita

Gangs are family. Yes, because their families are OTL. Out To Lunch.

carmencita

This society is doomed if we do not wake them up. They have been taken over by the Pod People.

quantokitty

People are waking up. The problem is that we rely heavily on what we see. So if someone tells us a theoretical story about what is happening, and we don't see the effect, say, of legislation passed, we intellectually grasp the concept, but don't rush into action. In other words, nothing in our community is changed, so why should I be worried about one bad piece of legislation that seems not to have caused detrimental damage. But there's been enough time that these lizards have been in office to SEE the damage! We see kids out of control, our schools being used as breeding grounds for bullying and teaching kids how to pass tests and not to think, and our jobs evaporating! Forget about the homeless and drugs that are overtaking every city and neighborhood. It's why what happened in the last election is so important.

carmencita

The one thing that really upsets me is the homeless. There are so many single moms and also veterans. When I think of all the homes that are just sitting around that are on the verge of being torn down, why were they not given a chance at these homes. We can find money to build all kinds of things like sprucing up all kinds of sports arenas, but people that have been kicked aside, NO. They have convinced so many that these people just did not do what it takes to succeed. I am getting off my soap box.

carmencita

Great Post as usual @quantokitty This is certainly a tragic but tantalizing (I mean that as mysterious) case. Lina is a very close image of Lady Gaga and visa versa. What a spoof on Lady G's public. If this is revealed she will be reviled. And rightly so. Upvoat4U

SayWhatNOWAY

Look at this? victoryofthelight @KibBitzLaw 1m Replying to @LizCrokin This about FAR more than simply trafficking and abuse. View conversation ·
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victoryofthelight victoryofthelight @KibBitzLaw 4h Replying to @KibBitzLaw They're done being quiet. They're done being afraid. #SWORDFISH #ItEndsNow pic.twitter.com/Ape7fT8Om2 View conversation ·
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victoryofthelight victoryofthelight @KibBitzLaw 4h Replying to @Watango Yes. We know who is behind this. It is someone in the music industry who reached out to us early on and with whom we have been

redditsuckz

Ahhh...the smell of disinformation in the morning.

quantokitty

Thanks. Just the taking over of identity is so freakin' weird! And remember in the beginning of Lady Gaga's career? She'd only show one side of her face. The other side was covered. Wonder if that went back to the "coin" convention where Lina died?

I really about fell over when Rob mentioned "eating pizza". He stumbled around for words and came up with "eating pizza". Reminded me of Pedosta's "eating pizza for about an hour." And Gaga has this manufactured narrative about being so "nice". Not nice what she did.

carmencita

You can bet if she got away with that, she had no problem graduating to other things, thinking there would be people to cover for her. Lina looks so much like her and G mimics her perfectly. Especially the blonde wig. Crazy. Absolutely Crazy,

quantokitty

It really is. Gaga had to be into satanic stuff. I had a discussion with someone about a model named Ruslana who committed suicide by jumping off the roof. There was a Paris vogue spread featuring satanism where another model dressed up complete with wig so she looked identical to Ruslana. The model dressed up to look like Ruslana was posed as if she were dead and had fallen.

Here's the link to Ruslana jumping:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/supermodel-ruslana-korshunova-who-jumped-from-new-york-office-building-had-joined-dehumanizing-cult-9865884.html

Here's the Devil Worship article with pictures. You can see that the model really did look like Ruslana:

http://jezebel.com/302809/french-vogue-devil-worship-is-the-new-black

cantsleepawink

Apparently Ruslana had been to Epstein's island http://www.newsweek.com/disconcerting-new-answers-models-suicide-67659

That ad took Ruslana from the world of wannabes to the best parties in New York, trips to convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s private island,

quantokitty

My personal opinion was she was being trafficked. Completely against her will. She was probably threatened.

cantsleepawink

Looking into the modelling agency...yup, I think you're right.

quantokitty

That poor girl was being sold. Probably threatened her family and there was nothing she could do.

cantsleepawink

They were also being subjected to MKUltra programming.

quantokitty

I'm sure. But they must have plans for these kids. What's the end game?

cantsleepawink

I don't know. But the whole Lina thing with Gaga using her as an alter ego makes me feel that we still don't realize how deep this goes.

quantokitty

No doubt.

cantsleepawink

I'm just listening to this. He's a bit slow and doesn't really get started until about 9 minutes in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CBAyyhFxAg

cantsleepawink

Ok, looking up the Rose of the World cult takes you to interesting places. The cult was run by Russian Vladislav Novgorodtsev http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2841750/Fast-cars-extravagant-vacations-business-Lavish-lifestyle-cult-leader-linked-death-plunge-Russian-supermodel-New-York-revealed.html

With branches in Moscow, St Petersburg, Novosibirsk, Irkutsk, he claimed: 'I was searching for the secrets of famous people.'

Riiight...think intelligence services.. their stated methodologies sound an awful lot like Scientology as well and we know the origins of that don't we ? (CIA, MKUltra, Crowley)

According to wikipedia, Rose of the World sessions are modelled after Lifespring

whose controversial methods were the subject of multiple lawsuits for mental damages in the US during the 1980s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifespring

John Hanley Sr., Robert White,[5] Randy Revell,[6] and Charlene Afremow[7][8] founded Lifespring in 1974.[9] As of October 1987, Hanley owned 92.7 percent of the company.[10] Prior to Lifespring, Hanley worked for the company Holiday Magic.[10] He and the other founders also worked for Mind Dynamics with Werner Erhard , the founder of est, which became the basis for Landmark Education.

The company, which promoted itself through books and word-of-mouth advertising, was the subject of investigative reports by the media, and was criticized by a few former staff members and participants.[2][3] At least 30 lawsuits sought to hold Lifespring responsible for participants' deaths or their mental damages. The company paid to settle some of the suits before trial and in other cases lost jury decisions.

Mind Dynamics has been described as part of the consciousness transformation movement, and has been compared to Scientology, est, Psycho-Cybernetics, and Amway

https://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/tag/a-course-in-miracles/

Werner Erhard, Germanic inspired mystic, is linked with Tiger Woods’ mind control program. Erhard was a disciple of Alan Watts [36] while developing the New Age EST program that is part and parcel of Tolle’s overall program. Erhard got the “Get It” from Watts. Watts got the “Get It” directly from the racialist population control master plans of CIA/MK ULTRA - Godfathers. Dr. Aldous Huxley (July 26, 1894 – November 22, 1963), Dr. Gregory Bateson (May 9, 1904 – July 4, 1980), and the BEAST 666 Aleister Crowley (October 12, 1875 – December 1, 1947).

cantsleepawink

The Russian model jumping to her death happened in the same year as Morgana's death: 2008. Notice that the newspaper articles only mention the Rose of the World Cult but give no more information. I'm very curious about them because of this recent article about Madonna's twins..look at what they are wearing: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4722990/Madonna-posts-video-cute-twins-performing-dance.html

quantokitty

Oh, shit!

Proud mama: Stella and Esther are Madonna's third and fourth children from Malawi

The rose is a symbol of Kabbalah, and when I read the above, I almost fell over. Look at this article! WTH IS GOING ON?!!!!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-sachs-madonnas-academic-malawi-guru

Curiously, Raising Malawi's 2008 IRS filing lists a $600,000 donation to Millennium Promise. ... When asked by The Daily Beast in a recent phone interview if he had "any regrets" about his involvement with Raising Malawi, Sachs paused so long he had to be asked if he was still there and offered no immediate answer. In response to a follow up email, Trowbridge issued the statement that "Professor Sachs was and is appreciative of Madonna's leadership to support education and poverty-alleviation in Malawi.”

cantsleepawink

Here are 2 posts I've done on her and Malawi : https://searchvoat.co/?t=madonna&s=&u=cantsleepawink&d=&nsfw=off

carmencita

This is really sick stuff. Yes she resembles her just as much as Gaga does Lina. Is this becoming a pattern? Could be.

quantokitty

Oh, absolutely! Dressing up like the person is jinxing them. Hence the voodoo dolls you dress like the person you want to cast a spell on. I think the Stones did it on one of their album covers, but it's been done for centuries.

carmencita

I wonder if they also add the MK Ultra in to the mix and that just spurs them on. Like they know exactly what is expected and then follow through. It is so horrible.

quantokitty

It is. And there is the mind control aspect. It is frightening, but I can't figure out what that stranger saying he had a message from God meant.

carmencita

Maybe he knew something. Something of what was going to happen, because he was informed or had been told and felt God wanted him to tell the truth, to do the right thing at the last minute. Just think how that person feels. He could have saved her life had he grabbed him and shouted. No, You must listen to me I have a secret, something that will happen. But he did not. He is more at fault, really. Agents and producers have many people always nagging them. The whole thing is tragic and horrid and I hope it comes out. Now some one has posted that Swordfish69 is a fake and that it is just Swordfish that released the ultimatum. This whole thing is getting out of hand and crazy. I cannot wait til the waiting is over.

quantokitty

I agree if the stranger was trying to help. But what if he were part of the plan? An actor with a defined role in the ritual. Think about it that way.

Like I said, I don't know Swordfish69. I only remember posts he made and they were really good. He was a great investigator. I don't remember shills coming out of the woodwork to discredit someone. I know they've only done it with me when I've posted something that hit a nerve ... and my harassment wasn't to this level. What's happening here is unprecedented. It makes me believe SF69 has the goods.

We'll all see together.

carmencita

I believe one of them has the goods. Will the REAL Swordfish please stand UP?

quantokitty

LOL ... good way of phrasing it. The real deal has them scared.

2impendingdoom

that was DonkeyFullof Craps's alt account.

carmencita

What does that mean then? Did he fake it then? Is it really just Swordfish and not Swordfish69 that did the original release? This is beyond imaginable. Please explain this to me if you can.

2impendingdoom

donkeyasshole created a fake swordfish account. I have no info on swordfish69 who has been posting here for a while.

carmencita

Stolen Identity. I Can't Wait Either!

quantokitty

I know. This should be good.