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Well, of course that's true -- but men still control Congress by huge majorities -- and have a couple of hundred years of male control of our government and the country piled up . . . right? And we see the damage from this violence against women which resulted in "The bird with one wing."

And you're saying what I repeat often -- among EVERY people, in every nation there are a few who will resort to violence to get their way. No people are exempt from this and that includes women.

And - again - of course, ALL organized religion which came thousands and thousands of years after the Old Religion is organized patriarchal religions --** i.e., male-supremacist religions.**

The Old Religions had no "devil" and no "Satan" and no "Hell" which are the inventions of Elite Patriarchy in order to frighten members involved with these male-dominated religions. Religion = Mind Control by FEAR. The Old Religions were based in Nature.

The Old Testament was written to cement patriarchy and to create the ONE-all male god.

Patriarchy is a political system just as Colonialism was a political system.

Men certainly don't enjoy war once they get to experience it -- and as soldiers they have no right to conscience. Plus ... their bonds with women and children have to be broken in order to send them to war.
And, of course, a good deal of propaganda of lies is used to make these wars sound as though we are under threat. In fact, the US has been heavily involved in creating "terrorists" as they are greatly in need of a new Cold War.

You also see if you look at the Constitution that (while proclaiming "All are equal") our Founders actually created an Elite Patriarchy and endowed them with land grants -- gave them immense influence and control over our "people's" government, the nation's wealth and natural resources. That was the set up.

Our nation was founded on violence against the native peoples here to steal their land. Against Africans enslaved here.

The Founders saved the system of Slavery for Elites/wealthy which guaranteed the Civil War which also benefitted Elites by splitting the nation into two camps of hatred which echoes on still today.

I wouldn't be upset if we don't agree on things -- it is how we conduct debate that's important -- and we hope to learn from one another. :)

PS: Would just qualify my post in this way . . . . Women have pretty much conducted a non-violent campaign to deliver women from oppression over the last 50,000 years or so. No one on this planet gets here except through the body of a female -- and men are our sons whom we nurture and care for and love.

I don't recall women ever running an Inquisition or the organized torturing of people. Nor burning people at the stake. Nor building religious empires as the male-supremacist Vatican has done. Nor writing Papal Bulls which called for the "enslavement or murder" of Africans enslaved here -- and native peoples here ... all of which was carried out. Sadly, most of the violence of the world has been done by males and this is still true today. During the years of the Vietnam War, something like 57,000 men lost their lives fighting that war. But at the same time and over those same years, 57,000 women were killed by their male significant other, their intimate male partners, or husbands. And women are ever more threatened these days by males in their lives ....

"Women Under the Gun" ....

2001-2012 -- 6,410 Women were murdered in US by an intimate partner using a gun. Women in the US are 11X more likely to be murdered with a gun than are women in other high income countries.

One of the least discussed subjects in this country is male violence.

MALES are also our sexual abusers of children -- when heterosexual women are involved in sexual abuse of children it is usually because of their involvement with a heterosexual male. The Catholic Church also shows this to be the case -- Catholic nuns have sexually abused children. And 40% of Catholic nuns have been sexually abused and physically abused by Catholic priests.

Homosexual males are 100X less likely to sexually abuse a child that a heterosexual male ... and Lesbians sexually abusing children is beyond rare. Gays and Lesbians seek adult relationship with other adult homosexuals and are NOT our sexual abusers of children.

I've repeated all of this because I don't know if you read any of my posts other than our posts to one another. And, there's always the chance that someone is reading this post who hasn't seen earlier posts of mine. I've also repeated LINKS for this information many times -- including for the studies on heterosexual males as our sexual abusers of children. If you want links, I'll be happy to dig them up.