Dfens

Ah, now it starts. You misrepresented the one factual piece you posted as being fake news. The piece regarding the uncounted ballots. By your own standard you are the one who is not to be trusted.

Dfens

The story about the uncounted votes was reported by many other sources. Even Snopes consideres it to be largely true. I'd never take their word for anything that had to do with a conservative, but this is a lib v lib issue. As for prince William and Brittany Spears, yeah, that's crap but they've got bills to pay too. As for David Icke's denunciation, it's mostly "I hate him." No real substance. Plus that's the same dude who said: "The Moon is a Reptilian/ET command centre" In fact he seems to be quite taken with the whole reptiles taking over the world thing. It's funny that you are ok with that kind of thing in one case but not the other.

That said though, thanks for putting together that information. I don't think it conclusively tars that source as consistently false, but I think you were successful in showing it is mainly a tabloid site and their articles should be read with that in mind.

jw4vc

It is difficult to imagine that justin said this infront of 100 people and there isn't a twitter storm.

gossip cops anonymous source they reported as saying biebar did not say anything like this is just as credible given how anonymous sources are not sources but this is clearly clickbait news fakery and should be removed from v/pizzagate along with all of the other flat earth/unrelated conspiracy nonsense that makes this board look like a joke.

Dfens

I think someone should compile something. These baseless allegations are absurd as is the abuse directed toward anyone who questions them. Not by you, of course. Thanks for your thoughtful answer.

kazza64

this is the church just has become involved with in australia. it has a history of paedophilia and has been called a cult and compared to the illuminati. it has global branches that collect millions of dollars from its followers in tithe

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/oct/10/hillsong-churchs-brian-houston-abuse-payment

dickface88888

I'll say it again, WHY DOES EVERY OTHER POST THAT IS DISINFO OR DOESN'T MEET THE RULES GET DELETED BUT THIS JUST STAYS UP. COOL, I GUESS THE MODS ARE AWAY CAMPING OR SOMETHING. @Vindicator @Millennial_Falcon

bullfyta

This might explain things or here , or maybe this will shed some light. I would not be surprised if some of these so-called reporters are not pulling their stories straight from voat/pizzagate. Out of all the witnesses at the church where Bieber supposedly confessed, and the reporter couldn't find one to verify. This is a waste of time.

bullfyta

Bieber was introduced to Hillsong Church back in 2014? (Not verified) See his interview here.

TMZ and others came out with similar stories about this on July 26, 2017 after Bieber cancelled his World Tour for 'unknown reasons.' Everyone speculated at that point it was due to the pastor, Carl Lentz of Hillsong Church, which has a controversy of its own, and maybe that's where fake news is generating the story unfolding today.

Here is another article written back in 2004. Notice the similarities in the article posted by the op and the photo of him crying may have been taken then.

pimpinainteasy

Here's one rebuttal to this story:

Justin Bieber Did NOT Say “Pedophiles Run The ‘Evil’ Music Industry,” Despite Fake News Story

https://www.gossipcop.com/justin-bieber-pedophiles-music-industry-bible-study-class-fake-news/

Echo others who say that Yournewswire is disinfo/"fake news"

Dfens

“It never happened,” a [unnamed] source close to Bieber exclusively tells Gossip Cop, calling the highly suspect story “false” and “fabricated.”

That's some real solid proof there.

angry_mob

says the "GOSSIPCOP." lol

ToMuchBS2

I found another one with Brad Pit, Katy Perry & talking about Bieber but not sure about the site so I thought I would stick it here. Hope this is ok. No MSM will cover this so it's hard to figure out disinformation sites so just an FYI could be the same as the OP site but crazy it's all coming out now at once??? http://www.neonnettle.com/news/2498-katy-perry-sick-pedophiles-control-the-music-industry

JimmyLionstar1

Neonnettle has the same creditability as Yournewswire. "Not that reliable"

Now with two different story´s and different "news" outlets.

Untill Bieber or Katy come out with something official. This sounds more like a disinformation campaign.

angry_mob

well, you're going to be waiting a loooooooong time for anybody to come out with anything "official." you do understand that we are dealing with the biggest criminals on the planet that would kill you as soon as look at you? (don't you?)

JimmyLionstar1

well, you're going to be waiting a loooooooong time for anybody to come out with anything "official."

I am not waiting for some Hollywood star to make the change we need, thats why i am here trying to expose these pedos.

I am just explaining that i don´t believe anything that says on these "news" site´s that are known to be spreading disinfo. (Neonnettle, Yournewswire.)

you do understand that we are dealing with the biggest criminals on the planet

And i know we are dealing with the biggest criminals in the history of the planet. Yes!

This is a fight we must win

angry_mob

alrighty then, carry on! i do worry about some of the newbies tho (don't know if you are one) in relation to the seriousness of this subject and the extent of it. i'm just really cynical these days, i think i need a break from this.

JimmyLionstar1

No worries, i think its all getting to us a little bit. "We haven't seen any big name arrest yet"

But we need to keep fighting, the kids have it so much worse then us. There is no choice, we will all go down if we can´t win this. This is the time, we have the numbers and they are growing by the day. Never has this topic been so wide spreed as it are now. We are the investigation they never expected. "this is the biggest civil investigation in history. We are all a part of that. So we have to keep going.. no mather what...

This time, will be remembered.

angry_mob

i hope you're right!

anotherdream

Neonnettle has repeatedly posted nothing but click bait garbage. YNW has done so as well. They seldom post articles that can be taken seriously.

dickface88888

The fact mods don't have the discernment to delete this is worrying. yournewswire is a shit rag designed to confuse. If they are the only ones running this story then it's bs. Simple.

angry_mob

well, if you're getting confused by a shitrag, then perhaps the problem is yours then?

Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt

Justin Bieber has one chance to redeem himself, Save his soul, and help Save the world by exposing the real Truth, the model, and the "Root" of the real Agenda in Racine, Wisconsin using Sustainability for Global Enslavement and Community Policing to enforce the Mark of the Beast.

Can you do what Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington could not? Will you expose the others involved in the entertainment industries like Tom DeLonge, Ashton Kutcher, Caron Butler, and Kristin Bauer van Straten, and how they connect to the Clintons, Podestas, Emanuels, Warren Jeffs, L. Ron Hubbard, Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley?

It is not only Scientology, or OTO, or LDS, or LC, or Kabbalah. It is a coalition of many groups with the same ultimate Agenda. They have infiltrated and corrupted all levels of society, government, industry, and media. It is a complex system and pyramid of many layers and contingency plans. There will be no justice. Only the Truth can Save us before it is too late.

This is your opportunity Justin Bieber. Will you shine the light on the "Root" of all Evil in Racine, Wisconsin for the world to see the real Truth?

angry_mob

l.ron hubbard was not part of that clan. neither is miscavige.

Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt

Scientology is directly related with OTO, and with Freemasonry, the Gnostic Catholic Church, and Kabbalah. Look into Ashton Kutcher, Tom DeLonge and Peter Lavenda further.

There are many connections between these groups. L. Ron Hubbard was likely a Freemason and was a key leader of OTO before founding Scientology. L. Ron Hubbard was close friends with Jack Parsons and was initiated into OTO by either Parsons or Aleister Crowley who was a 33rd degree Freemason.

They are all connected. It is a coalition within the pyramid of secret societies and religious groups, and Racine is the "Root".

angry_mob

i don't believe that. do you think that the power elites in hollywood would allow leah remini to put out another season of the extremely damaging scientology exposing documentary if this was true? they would have NONE of that! noway. believe me when i say it would simply not happen. scientology is small potatoes and nothing that the elites care about one way or another. these people control hollywod, they just wouldn't allow her to do this and don't really care that scientology is going to become the fall guy! i can't wait for the new season, i think it is coming out august 14th, simply because i think they are criminals in their own right.

Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt

We believe that she is paid opposition much like Seth Rich was used as an example

They want people to know that if you blow the whistle your life will be destroyed - see Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, Seth Rich and Leah Remini for examples.

This is exactly how the mafia has operated for generations. They want everyone to be aware of what happens when you cross them.

You cannot trust anyone that was involved in these circles, much like you cannot trust Robert David Steele, ex-CIA.

The real answer to the real agenda is Racine, Wisconsin. It is not part of the controlled narrative, and is the only thing they are truly afraid of being exposed.

angry_mob

um, thanks for the reply but i'm going to have to disagree with you about Leah Remini. She has a whole new season for her show that slays Scientology 6 ways to Sunday. It starts this Tuesday and you should def check it out, i am going to! i'm not saying scientology isn't run by mafia types, but it is a different mafia than what we are generally talking about on this forum. if you know anything at all about hollywood, you know that the powers that be would not EVER let some little sit com pop tart like Remini skewer scientology if there was an alignment between scientology mafia and other mafia groups. some are affiliated, others are not. i would posit the theory that scientology is basically sort of tolerated in hellywood, since they offer up a few money makers like Travolta, Cruise etc. but it's pretty obvious hollyhell is run by a different group or groups. at best scientology is the red-headed step child!

Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt

You are underestimating them. They are layers deep in psyops and contingency plans. Listen to your first hunch, where you claim "they would not EVER let some little sit com part tart like Remini skewer Scientology". That part is correct. They are letting her do it. Scientology is not a "red-headed step child". It is well connected, and one of many groups in the bigger coalition that all protect each other. L. Ron Hubbard > Jack Parsons > Aleister Crowley. They were all closely connected with Freemasonry, and linked to OTO, LDS, Kabbalah and other groups involved.

Everything is out in the open right in front of the world.

The "Root" is in Racine, WI.

angry_mob

i'm sorry, i just disagree with you. i've researched scientology, and i don't think they are players. yes, there are structural similarities, but that's coincidence. what i've come to realize is that things are not always what they seem and also there are many shades of grey. a lot of people are interested in Crowley (i'm not one of them) but that doesn't mean there is a direct connection there. i think the "Root" is in Basel switzerland and the UK & Brussels. through the federal reserve of course. (hollywood, NY & wherever there are large dollars in flux) i do believe the vatican is involved of course. it wouldn't surprise me if there's a hub in racine, but i just have a big picture kind of outlook.

stillinit

As much hate as Justin gets I respect him. He became famous via genuine talent and the internet. I believe he is a good person and the type of person that would speak out against something like this.

jstrotha0975

He will commit suicide by 2 gunshot wounds to the back of the head.

carmencita

Sadly I must agree. His parents sold him down the river to the Pedo Elites. He is trying, but if he does tell all they will do a Kanye Fix. Quick trip to the Hospital and they will have sucked all truth from his brain. Or the two shots in the back of the head. That I believe is why he is laying low and keeping quiet.

sunajAeon

We need verification of this report, although it is verified in other accounts-if this proves to be true the Fbi, congress, MSM are all guilty of obstruction of justice for failing to act on this information

LA_Trump

I've been falling Bieber's arc closely and this rings as very true, but there's no way to verify. However, since there's an alleged crime, FBI should investigate.

angry_mob

not a beiber fan here, but offhandedly aware of his recent story & even if it's not true, it seems like it probably is. what else would make him back away from tour money & be hanging out with church people? i vote real.

Millennial_Falcon

This is from yournewswire (known to be a disinfo operation). Flairing as possible disinfo.

dickface88888

"(known to be a disinfo operation)." lol, SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU LEAVE IT UP!!!!!? @Vindicator

UglyTruth

Because an ad hominem is not a good reason to dismiss something.

dickface88888

If the only source you can find for such sensational claims comes from something "known to be disinfo operation", then it's nonsense.

UglyTruth

And the logical fallacy of the day is: ad hominem.

The story could well be bullshit, but the only thing sensational about it is a celebrity talking about it in public. Bieber cancelled his tour, so something is going on with him.

dickface88888

Fair, but this article does no good for anyone, zero facts and a total fabrication as far as we can tell.

hookednosedjoooo

I got downvoated onto oblivion for posting about those sites muddying the waters https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2018155

I also posted how this disinfo was similar to flat earth disinfo campaign and you deleted it

FE_Rebekah

There are some major things to consider in the Flat Earth campaign. Yes, much of it is ridiculous, being spewed by ridiculous people, but the exposure of NASA is real.

The ISS is green screen hairspray Hollywood. Here's a good video exposing much of it:

[ https://youtu.be/CzyPN8-AbJQ ]

If you ask me, the spinning globe is the psyop. It's a tool for hypnosis. They use it all the time in TV and movies. I wish people could see past the deception.

The fact that MSM and Hollywood bash on it at every turn should be a clue to you. In my research, PG and FE have the most trolls, which means there is truth to be found, that they are actively trying to coverup.

hafen

Don't want to turn this into a FE discussion, but they may create fake ISS scenes in order to keep the PSYOP going.

angry_mob

ok, here's the bottom line...the earth is roughly ...wait for it ... a SPHERE! like, ya know, ALL of the other planets! ("the spinning globe is the psyop") lol

FE_Rebekah

So the balls on the pool table are round, so the table must be round? This argument about the "planets being round" doesn't make sense.

Plus, you can see that they are 2-D round, but you can't see if it's a sphere from here.

Ever notice we only see ONE SIDE of the moon? You see the one face, always the same, and it rolls like a quarter.

Pay attention that the moon looks like a light, not a ball of dirt and rocks. Notice you can see clear blue sky through the moon during the day. The sky where the moon is not lit up should not look exactly like the sky around the moon if it's a ball.

Check out some zoom in footage of stars on YouTube some time. The Nikon P900 has a great zoom, and honestly, the stars and "planets" (wandering stars) look like electromagnetic. They are amazing, and they are spinning in perfect rotation around the North Star, Polaris. This perfect rotation shouldn't happen if we are spinning, on a tilt, while also zooming our way around the sun. The star patterns should be changing, but they don't.

angry_mob

oh my GOD, you are so freaking stupid i refuse to bother refuting this nonsense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8887766554433221

She could be referring to the collapse of the wave function.

FE_Rebekah

I was taught that insults are not appropriate in a scientific debate. But I should know better when talking to an angry mob.

Perhaps you guys should get your facts straight before you go rioting.

angry_mob

scientific debate?? about the earth being FLAT? you've gotta be fucking kidding me. you're no scientist, ok? let's just get that out in the open. because a real scientist is busy in the lab doing... oh my god, waaaiit for it... SCIENCE. yeah, that. so you just keep doing whatever the fool thing that it is that you were "taught," and i will keep raising hell, drinking wine & watching Ancient Aliens! (god i love fridays)

FE_Rebekah

I assume Ancient Aliens is fiction? Sure, I dig it, we don't know what else is out there.

I just don't believe it's the cartoon CGI representations that NASA tells us is for real out there.

Talk to some photo editing/visual effects experts, and they can tell you how NASA does it.

I don't claim to know what's real. I'm just pointing out the major flaws in the scientism we learned in school.

But I guess you are of the belief that this field of science can't be questioned anymore.

angry_mob

wrong assumption - again!! (you're an alien & u don't even know it!) i AM a photo effects, visual effects EXPERT! & NO THE EARTH IS FLAT idea (not a scientific theory) is not up for conjecture. it's a closed case, so good luck & good nite.

sunajAeon

The nature of disinformation is truth mixed with deception; frankly ANY site that is KNOWN to WILLINGLY participate in propaganda must ALWAYS be vetted with other reliable sources (of course 'reliable' is something to be sought after but rarely completely obtained), many otherwise good sources put out a number of great articles, with some areas deeply lacking and questionable, Jeff Rense strikes me as an example-some great articles but his website looks like a carnival snake oil salesman show; I love Jim Fetzner & his work on Sandy Hook, but I'm still watching anyone who was ever connected to Veterans Today, residing in Switzerland (which in and of itself is telling) whom I consider to be deeply in bed with the elite sub-humans, especially after I read his conclusions on the Oregon False-Flag last year despite some fine articles). Flat Earth strikes me as Intelligence programming; this particular ruse behaves like a virus of the mind-it muddys the water, creeps into every discussion, diverts attention & resources etc. until it accomplishes its programming

FE_Rebekah

"Flat Earth strikes me as Intelligence programming; this particular ruse behaves like a virus of the mind-it muddys the water, creeps into every discussion, diverts attention & resources etc. until it accomplishes its programming."

I believe it creeps into every discussion because it is deeply connected to your memories. The hypnotic spinning is used all over news, TV and movies, spinning people in and out of shows, constant globes in the background, the way the screens go from one to the next.

So almost every show you've watched your whole life has programmed you with the spinning.

Yes, it is like a virus in the brain. I believe people just have too many connections that relate to the globe, so their brain feels like it's gonna overload at the thought of re-filing all of their memories with the truth added in.

I have firsthand experience with this when I found out my ex had been cheating and involving the children and forcing them to lie to me for almost 2 years. All those memories from those last 2 years had to be re-filed with the painful truth. And it made me question the 10 years we were together before that too.

Yes, it's a painful process, and we would avoid the situation if we could. These emotional attachments are why people have so much trouble hearing the evidence of earth being stationary.

ArtificalDuality

Flat Earth Flattened Here's some basic science that anyone can conduct and prove to themselves the earth is a nice round globe. Now go stuff your mission, tell your masters to fuck it and make this a better place.

jangles

The earth is NOT a round globe it is:

Dfens

Source?

10060493?

This is proven fake.

angry_mob

i believe this. i think it's real. therefore - it is.

hookednosedjoooo

who the fuck downvoted this?

ronnyCPI

Prove it to me.

ronnyCPI

By whom, and where can that be verified?

forensictunnel

Go Justin, the pedos HATE HIM.