Vindicator

@Judgejewdy : This is a great post, and I see MF left it up as a PSA. However, I do have to take it down due to the lack of links. Would you consider taking the time to rewrite it as a research post with links to examples? It should be quite easy to find them if you use Searchvoat.co and look up key words. I totally agree with your analysis. The theme of the week reminds me of editorial meetings at a newspaper I worked at when I was young...I can just see these operatives sitting around with their Starbucks cups brainstorming what their shitposts are going to be over the next two weeks. It would be interesting to see them on a timeline, which accounts got involved, how each theme was pushed and elaborated on, and what they switched to when it got little traction. Would LOVE to see that alongside a timeline of real life news and DDoS attacks against Voat and /pol/ as well as rashes of Twitter bans to see if there is a relationship.

Please...someone...write this post. We'll sticky it!

Now...I've gotta remove this version. You can repost as is in v/pizzagatemods . :-)

birthdaysuit11

NOTE: Keep Researching :: NCMEC, PEGASUS and former owners, where the hell is Spoor when you need him? Also, ELPIDA, Brain, Tony and John Podesta, Clinton connections, Lolita express, OTO, Radcliffe foundation, COMET PING PONG, James Alefantis, All the sick Art brute artists Podestas and Alefantis like, Transformer gallaires, Rothschild connections, Alefantis geneology!!!! Moonie cult, Austyn crites and blackmail pedophilia, etc. PEGASUS was the gate, they shut it before we could peek through, Alefantis didn't want anyone knowing about it. Mods everywhere scambled to cover it up. Stick to the players ans follow the connections, Then ARCHIVE AND MOST ESPECIALLY SCREEN SHOT EVERYTHING.

pbvrocks

Im sure alot of you are just like me..used to be VERY easy to distract me..get me going down a rabbit hole, etc...but with knowledge and insight come power and discernment...and really isn't that what this is all about? Time for me, you, and anyone else ready to wake up, to take control back, and evolve our planet and our species...I'm very proud to be a part of what we are about it...and I certainly can now discern..for the most part :-) I'm a math guy...so I get the patterns...we all do subconsciously...

UglyTruth

I get the feeling that there's been a shift of attention toward the Trump administration with the developing media war and hints that they're actually working on the the problem of high level paedophiles. Focus is important, but how we rationally identify what the key issues are?

kazza64

you cant mention george webb or david seaman on voat without sending the shills into a frenzy. the shills also attack sources so as to discredit information. sometimes this forum feels more like a boxing ring than a discussion with open minded people seeking the truth

birthdaysuit11

Webb and Seamen are shills. Gatekeepr, controled opositions, every good researcher knows that here.

kazza64

shutting down sources of information is a good way to direct the narrative and i'm not buying into it i'm a free agent and i will explore every avenue to find the truth whether voaters tell me to or not

birthdaysuit11

And rightfully you should. But stick to evidence and root sources. Research yourself, I know that Seamen, Alex Jones and Web are gatekeepers. You might think differently but there are many good threads about it. Many of these so called leaders of thos movement are wolves in sheeps clothing, as the best way to control the opposition is to lead it.

10096250?

you have every right to "explore every avenue to find the truth" but it's intellectually dishonest to call people who doubt other obviously questionable people "shills"

Rmm

While I appreciate the diversity of opinion on the matter of Pizzagate and the "5 W's", it is certainly making it hard to synthesize a theory. It's been a long an winding road from spirit cooking to Comet Pizza to Seth Rich, the Deep State, 'elsagate' adrencochrome and satanism dating back through the ages (pre dating theBiblical era). OK --I know about the Merovingian bloodline and its prominence in all former presidents of the U.S.---but then we have Tavistock and Kinsey, and the CIA, and the Jesuits and the the Rothschilds ---Freemasons, Skull and Bones , "psy-ops" Kabbalah, Clinton Foundation, Art world and ease of trafficking art through the art in the embassies program. Tunnels? yes or no. Alefantis death threats--real?? Let's see have I missed anything.? Yes--Laura Silsby and the Clintons. Dead people about to testify against the DNC showing up on beaches….Vatican arrests. nonexistent bistros with ubiquitous locations. I guess what I'm finding is that there is an overload of information and when its causing so many conflicts among the researchers (and shills?) , a lowly observer like myself is at wits end. The only thing I know at this point is that there is a lot of child sex trafficking going on, and that children are being procured and bred for use in porn and snuff films and worse. I still would like to know HOW it is being carried on under our noses and nothing is really being done about it. Sorry for the ramble--I TOTALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE IDEAS AND RESEARCH that you are all providing. Oh ---and Russian hacking??? I completely doubt that as well.

Apollyon

Rush in Hacking... omg

2impendingdoom

CPS and the foster care system, etc.

The key to HOW is simple, honorable people are weeded out and corruptible or perverse people are promoted and they all protect eachother. Last fall there was a young political campaign volunteer who posted here briefly who described how the morally defunct people would be given positions and promoted. They treated the good people like trash so that they would quit. Kay Griggs and Sibel Edmonds (on youtube) also explain how they use initiation rites and blackmail to influence and sort out the rising stars. Also watch the Dutch banker, Roland Bernard.

People who speak out are ignored, discredited or even killed.

birthdaysuit11

AND ALL THAT IS NEEDED TO FIX THIS IS AN ORGANIZED SEARCH FUNCTION!!! That shows every post ever and has an option to look up deleted submissions that rouge mods deleted. PROGRAMERS make it now, That way researchers can compile and sort everything.

followthemoney

Focus on what, exactly?

Cause for investigation is already established.

Alefantis' money laundering network is on Bizapedia. He posts drugs and money on Instagram. Any normal person would have the IRS up their ass, by now.

Unless some one is making better infographics, the citizen side of the investigation is over and pushing for a real investigation is the next step.

En masse reporting to CWS, the IRS, etc is the only move left for this movement.

But most people don't care enough to report this stuff.

Report what you've found, and when the pile of reports is big enough, it will fall over and kill the lazy investigators, or they will do something.

The connections are all there. We know what is happening.

In case you missed it:

The Clinton Foundation is a CIA front that sells forensic interruption services.

They work with Glencore, VCS, Giustra, and other large mining concerns that relate on slave labor.

They protect the human trafficking networks.

Worse, there are other uses for human trafficking besides slave labor. We all know what they are.

The CIA is also participating in gun trafficking and drug trafficking. This is old news, but the evidence is incontrovertible.

Combine that with the CIAs study of cults, and we see that they have infiltrated and are actively using religious groups. They also infiltrated environmental groups, movie productions, tv productions, news organizations, the music industry, etc..

The child trafficking is a small part of this. Comet Ping Pong is just a money laundering node. Sure, we all understand why everyone is saying child rape and stuff, but there is already cause for an investigation without that.

ARK, Esalen, Tavistock... all tie together with the intelligence community on an expansive 'mind control/mass persuasion' program.

If you want something done, report it. Sure, there is plenty of other investigating to do, but we already get the big picture. It is time to do something about it.

Focus on reporting.

1928375

Esalen?

sunajAeon

I'm always surprised that with all the reporting very few people report on the CIA-they are the elephant in the room-who are they really? Who do they work for? They sure as hell don't work for Americans, and they are involved in every major act of terrorism in the West-but no one really reports much on this-there ought to be an entire citizen website about this group

darkknight111

Lead Suggestion (based on follow the money, which I do agree with): Zapata Oil. is worth checking out. Oil corp by George H.W. Bush. Suspected of being heavily connected to drug trafficking. G H.W. B is also rumored to be one of the founding members of the CIA.

10096219?

yep. focus on getting this information or at least this existential motif to the public somehow, in whatever small ways you can. it's better than sitting here scrapbooking circumstantial evidence til our brains bruise.

birthdaysuit11

I agree, computer researchers need to start asking questions and going around talking to others. If you want to help people and serve god do it! We need more people investigating this field, sadly no one wants to because it is an easy target for suicided.

SayWhatNOWAY

And posting the same freaking posts right after each other with different names!

I suggest after blasting them at least once we totally ignore the posts, no up or downvoats no responses!

Judgejewdy

Sometimes I think half the people on here are the same person w different names... or maybe they are freaking bots.

SayWhatNOWAY

Yeah, some have multiple accounts here, but I have only seen a few bots! Unless, mods are getting to them b4 I see them😉

quantokitty

Word.

Yes, this is being done.

Millennial_Falcon

Considering all the fake news bullshit the media and deep state have thrown at Trump, I don't exactly lean toward believing her. The point is, DarkMath is making a huge leap in assuming Trump is "in on" pizzagate. He has no idea what is going on behind the scenes, and he must have some idea of the forces Trump is contending with (assuming he is indeed against those forces, which seems to obviously be the case, based on how the media and deep state have tried to take him down). Therefore, it is reasonable to suspect DarkMath's motives in making this claim, not to mention his motive for posting one of the most ridiculous theories I've ever seen (he claimed the recent Ohio State Fair accident was a hoax to distract from pizzagate, based no less on the notion that an obvious real girl was supposedly a mannequin ; Is he trying to make this board look like it's full of morons? Classic black propaganda). Either he's really fast and loose with his theorizing, or he's a shill. His claim that Assange is CIA leads me to suspect the latter, as the deep state badly wants to discredit Assange.

wgvdl

FOR THE MODS. this is related to pizzagate because the post clarifies the fundamentals of our investigation.

wgvdl

completely right, judge. there is an ongoing weekly changing issue.

Millennial_Falcon

I didn't deny he could be in it. You look pretty dumb misconstruing what I said. I said there is practically no basis to claim he IS in on it. There being a possibility vs. there being evidence. Huge difference.

Judgejewdy

Ernie Allen.

AngB23

I'm not sure which set of new people/convos are being referred to, but soon after the SF release, there were a ton of new people, posting vids and the deleting their names (not sure if by their choice or mods).

I dug around that/researched quite a bit and although most of it was geared to Hampstead, i believe they were trying to inform us to make the connections to USA. As we all know, this is a world wide ring and it would only make sense to have cross over players. I did come across multiple 'items" but still having a hard time connecting the dots. I agree some new stuff is shills, but some are not I believe

Judgejewdy

Agree, calling anyone who doesn't agree with our individual opinions is arrogant and foolish. But some discernment is required. (And a damn search bar that works so no one has an excuse for reposting old crap...but that's the voat MO to keep us in silos/hamster wheels so I don't see that changing....) my personal opinion if you want a good link to global networks is to look into the icmec....and of course our very own ncmec.

AngB23

Ya, the search for posts here sucks and that's about 80% of the problem with repeat info but sometimes revisiting old topics brings up new info.

And def icmec/ncmec need to be look at with fine tooth combs. The Hampstead info seemed to be connecting to Ricky Dearman, Tavistock, Royals and trying to connect to US. Along with the how the operations work which seems to be not only CP but snuff films. Very disturbing.

birthdaysuit11

Anywhere to see deleted submissions based on date. Would take me 4 yrs to scroll through to the begining. Shit is whack ans the search function doesn't show any of the great posts that exposed a lot of the stuff.

2impendingdoom

sort by TOP and then all time for some of the better archived posts. One problem with the search is that if a name is misspelled, it doesn't get picked up. I know that I often spell names wrong so sorry!

ProudTruther

On 4chan they've got a thread called what if all shills are bots.

SayWhatNOWAY

Yeah 4chan gets hit all the time, but those R bots 4 sure! None respond back and repeat the same shit over and over😬

Judgejewdy

I saw that, it was interesting. The bulk, I think, are programmed to be irate, call people faggots and drop f-bombs. ;) it's like being at a deadmilkmen's show.

carmencita

Well things were a little more stringent, but they changed that and I think also that we need more oversight.

birthdaysuit11

Oversight???

DeanKeyhote

Ashton Kutcher is key you fool. He is such a committed Kabbalist he refused to remove his red wristband while filming Guess Who and they had to spend $100k digitally editing it out according to an "insider." Have you not seen the video of Demi passionately mouth kissing a tiny boy??

birthdaysuit11

Ashton is monarch.

Judgejewdy

Please. He's a small fry.

DonKeyhote

RICH KABBALISTS ARE THE GUILTY PARTY YOU DUMBFUCK.

LIKE THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND HERE.

I DECLARE MYSELF LEADER EFFECTIVE NOW.

  1. WOMEN GTFO
  2. TRIPLE BRACKETS MANDATORY
  3. DIVISION OF LABOR TO UPDATE THE WIKI
  4. I.R.L. OUTREACH COMMITTEE
  5. CODEWORDS/FRONT BUSINESS LIST REPLACE TOP STICKY
  6. NO DIRECT LINK POSTS

DO IT NOW FAGGOTS.

Blacksmith21

Addressing PG shill tactics is absolutely relevant to Pizzagate.

Don't forget topics like the Rothschilds, the Jesuits, Pegasus Museum, Luzatto, and other close-to-home targets.

birthdaysuit11

Luzzato, we need more researchers on her and her connections.

DawnKeyhote

Youre a complete fucking idiot. Whats that like?

birthdaysuit11

Ignore, report, move on.

DawnKeyhote

Youre the one who mentioned the famous jewish family named luzzatto. Im puzzled as to why.

DonKeyhote

Jesuits founded by crypto jew, alefantis crypto jew, rothschilds jews, luzzatto among the most influential jews to ever exist.

Nice to see youre coming around FAGGOT

birthdaysuit11

Ignore, report, move on.

Judgejewdy

Thank you, of course, I forgot to mention the Jews.

DarkMath

"Whether it's this week's apparent theme of trying to make PG a psy-op tactic"

Really? For Christ's sake, I'M NOT A SHILL. Go read my post again: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2045759

I'm not saying the crimes didn't occur. I'm saying Trump is in on it. I had the same theory 6 months ago except it was "old Mossad" turning state's evidence instead of the Deep State. That was wrong but someone is throwing someone else under the bus inside the Deep State. I'm 100% convinced of that now. George Webb didn't just decide to do this out of the blue. Ditto for FBIAnon. Wikileaks is a CIA/Mossad operation all the way. Julian Assange and Edward Snowden are controlled opposition. Grow the fuck up already.

Trump keeping Andrew "Swamp Warden" McCabe on at the FBI means Trump is in on it. Everything is a psy-op right now both coming and going.

Jem777

DarkMath Trump did not have a choice about McCabe...not yet anyway. You have to know federal law and employee law to know what is happening at that level. FBI personnel cannot be fired except through rigorous employment law unless they are the Director which is a political appointee. Although McCabe was Acting Director for awhile because it is not permanent Trump cannot fire him. His only option is to catch them all in illegal activity which the Judiciary is in the process of doing.

McCabe is under investigation as is Comey and even the FBI counsel Baker. Don't assume Trump kept McCabe do you really believe he would after all those tweets he sent out basically calling McCabe a crook....no way.

DarkMath

"His only option is to catch them all in illegal activity"

He's already caught James Comey for perjury and Trump could easily parlay that into a plea bargain for Comey in exchange for dirt on McCabe. Plus there is a ton of other evidence against McCabe specifically obstruction of justice for walling off the Clinton Foundation investigation of their financial gang rape of Haiti. Trump could get rid of McCabe in a New York minute if he wanted to.

I partially agree, I think the Deep State "white hats" are simply waiting right now.

Judgejewdy

I'm not calling you a shill. I usually agree with you so I haven't made up my mind yet. :) honest people can be wrong. I'm just stating a pattern I've seen.

DarkMath

Got it. It's all good. If it's any consolation I'm starting to think even the Deep State "white hats" don't know what the fuck is going to happen anymore.

2impendingdoom

I expect that they never knew what was going to happen, they are just doing as best as possible with the opportunities that they have. This has alway been the case, which is why it is so frustrating, interesting and, frankly, entertaining. I just wish so many kids weren't being abused in the meantime.

Factfinder2

We can believe that everything is a psyop and also that Trump is in on it without being shills. I think Thomas Wictor does a great job explaining this on Twitter every day. https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor

And remember, Wictor tweeted about his personal knowledge that the cesspool of elite organized pedophilia is real: https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/891857759267725312

DarkMath

Let's see how Millennial_Falcon answer the question I just asked him to see if he's a shill.

Millennial_Falcon

Trying to turn the tables, eh? Nice try.

Millennial_Falcon

I'm not saying the crimes didn't occur.

Wow, nice hidden premise you slipped in there. All there is to pizzagate is that "crimes occurred," huh?

I'm saying Trump is in on it.

Nice divide-and-conquer strategy, not to mention there is practically zero basis to claim that.

Wikileaks is a CIA/Mossad. Julian Assange and Edward Snowden are controlled opposition.

LOL. If you're not a shill, you're at least completely full of shit. I lean toward the former, since your claims (discrediting Trump and Assange, and minimizing pizzagate) line up with deep-state goals.

birthdaysuit11

Research Assange former life and edward Snowden limited hangout. They purposely released this information to desensitize the public.

Factfinder2

Trump might be in on it and the whole thing might be a psyop. It is possible that Trump is orchestrating the mother of all psyops in order to trap and expose the vermin. We do not know yet what the truth is.

Judgejewdy

42 = Ernie Allen.

Factfinder2

I'm not into cryptic. If you have a point to make about the founder of NCMEC, I'd like to read it.

bopper

@Factfinder2 "We do not know yet what the truth is."

The best statement on this whole thread.

DarkMath

"Julian Assange and Edward Snowden are controlled opposition."

They don't think 9/11 was an inside job. That's the litmus test for controlled opposition. Controlled opposition or a Deep State shill will either not answer a question about 9/11 or they'll say it was 19 Saudi Terrorists only.

So that brings up the question MF:

do YOU think 9/11 was an inside job brought to us by the evil and perverted minds of George H.W. Bush and David Rockefeller?

:-D

I'm still waiting for your answer @Millennial_Falcon but I think I know what it's going to be already. :-D

sunajAeon

That is troubling, that Assange does not support 9/11 as an (obvious) inside job-that is not something that can be dismissed

Millennial_Falcon

do YOU think 9/11 was an inside job brought to us by the evil and perverted minds of George H.W. Bush and David Rockefeller?

By the minds of elements of the deep-state, yes. As for H.W. Bush and Rockefeller in particular masterminding it, I have no knowledge of that. Can you provide a source on Assange/Snowden denying 9/11 being an inside job?

DarkMath

"By the minds of elements of the deep-state, yes."

So you agree that 9/11 was a US Government run operation and used those 19 Saudi "terrorists" as patsies?


@Millennial_Falcon this isn't a complicated question. Please respond.

Millennial_Falcon

Yep. I wouldn't put "terrorist" in scare quotes, though. They really were terrorists. An FBI team caught then training to fly planes (their investigation was blocked by FBI bigwigs, hmmmmm).

DarkMath

"They really were terrorists."

Did you know at least 10 of them are still alive?

Also here are a couple of links showing David Rockefeller's the real genius behind 9/11. I can send evidence of George H.W. Bush's participation later but note his infamous "New World Order" speech was on 9/11/1991. And that earlier on that very day he and a few old school CIA officer's took out around a $600 million dollar debt issuance and spent the next 4 years buying up the old Soviet Union. Guess when that debt was due?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfF1lt8qAhk&t=11s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb8MDFSgUB4&t=1s

DarkMath

Great! You're not a Deep State shill. Congratulations.

Although to be honest it didn't seem as full throated as I'd have thought from you but whatevs. You're not a shill is all that matters to me.

:-D

Millennial_Falcon

Great! You're not a Deep State shill.

Well, you still are!

DarkMath

"Well, you still are!"

How do you figure that? I openly acknowledge 9/11 was an inside job.

Judgejewdy

Fucking hell now I think you both are since you're hijacking this thread to be a 9/11 shill pissing match.

Millennial_Falcon

He brought that up to derail and try to turn the tables. I agree it's a distraction. Downvoat it. Matter of fact, your comments are also a distraction, so downvoat yourself too. :D

Millennial_Falcon

Yep. Notice how DarkMath's "pizzagate is a psy-op" post is on the same day as a Last American Vagabond article posted here claiming Pizzagate is a "trap" to discredit alternative media. Really gets the noggin' goin'.

Judgejewdy

I see they have new personnel in the Millenial Falcon spot. The old MF would have deleted this post immediately. Perhaps this has something to do with us losing a mod? Xoxxoo

redditsuckz

The real M_F took a vacation..because even mods need to have some alone time...but here is the New guy they handed his account to;

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/2045021

Edit...

Pretty sure they just handed the account to DarkMath and he is now arguing with himself.

Edit 2;

DarkMath 90% of the time was the only one to argue with "pizzagate_iz_retarded"..hint...hint...

Millennial_Falcon

The old MF would have deleted this post immediately.

I mean, arguably I'm not the same MF, because everybody changes over time. Are you the same Judgejewdy you were yesterday? Deep, huh?

birthdaysuit11

I still don't trust ya.

Judgejewdy

Are_u_sure?

sunajAeon

I POSTED A STORY ON LAST AMERICAN VAGABOND last week and I also posted all my email exchanges for the community to see and ponder, no conclusions were made on my part about the website, but certainly some real questions must come up re: an author there who claims to be a SATANIST

DarkMath

Now I'm the shill? Holy shit. MF you should know better than to call me a shill. Read my comment to JudgeJewdy https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2046697/10093900

Judgejewdy

And I know this is going to get deleted bc of no links, etc, but, hell, it's still better than half the crap on here.

carmencita

I am leaving right now, but wanted to put my two cents in quickly. I agree there has been something going on. I have noticed it too. Also a slew of brand new members. I am glad for new members but there were so many in the last couple weeks. Tons.

sunajAeon

I am concerned about ll these new post showing up by new members, surely there should be a vetting process before some complete unknown takes the lights on Broadway