3141592653

I spoke with a colleague who has done work with gangs, and he feels that it's absolutely believable that a gang- even a human trafficking gang- would have a "moral code" that didn't allow them to hurt women with babies. he said as ridiculous as it may seem, that that part of the story does seem credible to him. interesting. @star_boi @piscina @carmencita

star_boi

deleted! total bs- connect to human trafficking and pizzagate is obvious here!! she ate a pizza while in the bag okay?? :/

3141592653

If you can, check out the pizzagate mods main page and see the discussion that was started about me. I was very close to leaving. Link on main page on right

Vindicator

@3141592653 : Sorry, I've got to remove this one per Rule 1 -- there's no direct connection to kids here. She was 20. This is great to put in v/pizzagatewhatever though. Thanks.

3141592653

You rock

Piscina

She was put in a suitcase after she'd been drugged. They put her in there in readiness to sell her on the deep web. They let her go when they found out she had a child. I've no doubt that they also do this with children they can abduct without a caregiver making a fuss. Children who are sleeping rough, vulnerable children, runaways, etc.

3141592653

Totally, foster children and other similarly disadvantaged kids are at such high risk- it's horrible

BehindTheCurtain

I was not able to listen, but viewed coverage of this on CNN News today, at a business center. The fact that CNN was covering it gave me pause. With all the pizzagate talk since before the election....why NOW? Why THIS story? They're probably planning to weave Trump or the Russians into the story.

3141592653

I found this article, someone discussing finding the group Black Death on the DarkNet and seeing that they were selling humans: https://humansoftor.com/black-death-the-most-horrific-crime-syndicate-on-tor/

carmencita

Do you find this a little odd? It also said kidnapping her was a “mistake” because a young mother should “in no circumstances be lured into kidnapping”. Would a sex slave ring really care whether a victim had a child o not? I believe they are cold and ruthless. This statement strikes me as odd.

3141592653

I agree with you 100%. I have a hard time believing that part. The whole story is very odd . Also, looks like we have another thing in common... I now have a stalker downvoting all my comments. I say it just adds to our street cred

carmencita

There is something sneakingly suspicious about it being on CNN and that statement. Seems they are pretty dumb, because we are not that stupid. Evidently they think we are. Street Cred. Yes.

birthdaysuit11

They have sympathy. ahhh, Cnn sucks.

3141592653

This story is somewhat curious on multiple levels. I think this warrants further investigation as the crime seems to have been highly organized and because it is unclear if the modeling agency was complicit.

This is related to PG as it deals with human trafficking on an organized and massive scale that possibly involves the modeling agencies. Children are often lured into modeling by human traffickers and subsequently kidnapped and forced into sexual slavery/ human trafficking.

Quote from the article: According to CNN, Italian investigators said Herba had already organized several online auctions for abducted girls. The website for these auctions included a description of the victim and a starting price. It is, however, not clear if the photos of the women put up by the group are authentic.

"Ayling was lured to Milan for a fake photoshoot July 11 and was drugged with ketamine. She was then stuffed inside a “dark bag.” She was then taken to a house in a remote area, from where Herba allegedly tried to sell her on the internet, CNN reported."

star_boi

the daily mail article on this is similarly telling for its ambiguity and outright oppositional statements... the crime is portrayed as a sex trafficking kidnap, but then also as a ransom. the man arrested described as a 'odd' loner with a "pet rat" who stalked her IG. but then described as a part of serious organized crime rings for purpose of sex slavery, which apparently the authorities know all about.... also, the evidence seems a bit much- a calling card letter left and description of the group 'black death'... well that doesn't look like a setup at all! finally, they take her back! because she has a kid?? wtf?? zero-sensical. only thing i can think is of course a pedophile would not want a 'woman' - of which child birth is a definite marker.... though nothing in this story overtly mentions pedophilia. the whole story as written is kinda strange, not the fact that such a thing 'could' happen, but THIS particular story quite odd.

3141592653

I Totally agree.especially in regards to them taking her back. These monsters have no morals