Piscina

"There is a group in the United States and the world, a group that started many years ago, calling itself the Illuminati, coming from the word 'light bearer.' Naturally, My children, this light that they bear stands for Lucifer, and as such they have gone through the world secretly known as Luciferians. They have brought into your country, the United States, and your neighbor Canada, a group of witchcraft practices. Well have they laid their plan to destroy your children with drugs, using your school systems, your medias of communication, your newspapers, your televisions, your radios: every means of communication has been infiltrated by the members and sub-members of the Illuminati, a conglomeration of individuals and powers and principalities throughout the world, and banking systems. As you well know, My children, money has always been the root of all evil, and many have sold their souls to get to the head." Our Lady, November 25, 1978

http://www.tldm.org/news/martin.htm

Piscina

Yes, I know. I was just asking your thoughts on whether you believe Jesus rose after three days.

Piscina

Do you believe Jesus rose again after three days?

Piscina

Yes, we are headed in that direction.

garouwarrior

CC infiltrated by Zionists, Freemasons, Jesuits, even freaking Communists lol.

CC always had a huge target on its back.

Lots of research that confirms this.

3141592653

Funny, I tried to refuse wearing cap and gown at graduation... made me feel like I was in a cult!

Piscina

Interesting that Bill Cooper, in Behold a Pale Horse, states:

Weishaupt advocated "abolition of all ordered national governments, abolition of inheritance, abolition of private proper- ty, abolition of patriotism, abolition of the individual home and family life as the cell from which all civilizations have stemmed, and abolition of all religions established and existing so that the Luciferian ideology of totalitarianism may be imposed on mankind."

which fits in quite well with what's prophesised by Revelations and interpreted by Yves Dupont:

"This impious man ... will give orders that he himself shall be worshipped as God. For he will say he is Christ, though he will be His enemy. That he may be believed he will receive the power of doing wonders, so that fire may descend from heaven, the sun retire from its course and the image which he shall have set up may speak. And by such prodigies he shall entice many to worship him, and to receive his sign on their hands or foreheads. And he who shall not worship him and receive his sign will die with refined tortures.

"This impious man ... will give orders that he himself shall be worshipped as God. For he will say he is Christ, though he will be His enemy. That he may be believed he will receive the power of doing wonders, so that fire may descend from heaven, the sun retire from its course and the image which he shall have set up may speak. And by such prodigies he shall entice many to worship him, and to receive his sign on their hands or foreheads. And he who shall not worship him and receive his sign will die with refined tortures.

Whoever will not have this mark of Antichrist can neither buy nor sell anything and will be beheaded. He will win over to himself the rulers, the mighty and the wealthy, will bring about the destruction of those who do not accept his faith and, finally, will subjugate the entire earth.

http://www.thepopeinred.com/antichrist.htm

sunajAeon

Yes, we were discussing the matter, and ESOTERICshade is a fine member of VOAT

Cigarette5mokingman

Look for the 17 gig cooper audio torrent uploaded by spigotonhot. It's all the mystery Babylon series, and A LOT of his radio show, plus other audio extras.

pedodestroyer

you are right. thanks for the correction. i got ahead of myself. cant stand shills. sometimes i think some of these extreme ones on here pretending to be on our side are actually shills. its like EVERYTHING is a jewish psyop. you cant win these people over at all it seems. i mean yes i agree theres definitely a debate there, whether its the jews, mystery babylon satanists, or whatever.. yes there are israeli/mossad agents... all that stuff exists, but just calling everyone and everything jewish shill i find gets us no where, sorry for rant.. lol mainly referring to @hookednosedjoooo where he read the words "not the jews" and immediately jumped to "Psyop confirmed". lol

some of these people seem like theyd believe their own family members are isaraeli/mossad agents. theres a difference between conspiracy theorist and legitimate paranoia

pedodestroyer

please Remember everyone... whether its the Jews... or if its the luciferians satanists mystery babylon people pretending to be jews...

we are all pretty much fighting one common satanic enemy. i love the debate. but i believe there shouldn't be any in fighting and we all should work together anyway. can't stand to see people on the same side against the same enemy, fighting against each other during times like these. just what they want.

sunajAeon

I'm not convinced there is a genetic heritage back to pre-christian times, rather the ideology has survived, today the Zionist Jews who are ashkenazi are not Abrahamic tribe

Cigarette5mokingman

I have more respect for mr cooper than probably anyone here. I have spent years of my life archiving his radio show interviews newspaper etc. To answer your question, I see nothing but coincidence in the release of these files. There's nothing in that document that I read, that isn't already well known for many many many years, or widely available online for the same amount of time.

pbvrocks

Wow..your last question is the MOST interesting. I saw this post and went and looked at the material briefly when you originally posted but did not put two an two together..so ty for your repost! Bill Cooper was on to and deep into all this before he had cover like we do..wow! So..why now..I'm with you on that question. The vault has shown some white hat tendency but @FBI is a nest of vipers from the head to the tail...so tread lightly and look for alternative agenda...just sayin'

Piscina

http://www.futurerevealed.com/future/texts-date-2.htm

I've never been one to believe in Revelations and prophecies of doom. But I see that what's happening in the world with pizzagate etc is exactly what's been predicted.

pedodestroyer

if they killed him the people would revolt... which is exactly why they havent. their world would crumble harder if they did. especially while people Have guns. they have to try to remove him from office instead.

they want what trump took back, they dont want to lose control of their slaves

sunajAeon

That's bullshit to exonerate the Jews-it IS the organized world Jewry that is led by the banking "money power" as they have been known-while the Jews are not the entire satanic group of secret societies they most definitely ARE part (if not the premier) satanic group at the top-Cooper had some great insights but he was flawed in some respects just like most commentators, I have several of his works and prize them but don't allow yourself to fall into celebrity worship

Piscina

In Augustinian nun who was a mystic, Anna Katherine Emmerich, foretold the following (1774-1824):

I saw how baleful would be the consequences of this false church. I saw it increase in size; heretics of every kind came into the city [of Rome]..... Once more I saw that the Church of Peter was undermined by a plan evolved by the secret sect...

I saw the secret sect relentlessly undermining the great Church ... When the Church had been for the most part destroyed [by the secret sect], ...

I now see that in this place [Rome] the [Catholic] Church is being so cleverly undermined, that there hardly remain a hundred or so priests who have not been deceived. They all work for destruction, even the clergy. a false religion will appear which will be opposed to the unity of God and His Church. This will cause the greatest schism the world has ever known.... The nearer the time of the end, the more the darkness of Satan will spread on earth, the greater will be the number of the children of corruption, and the number of the just will correspondingly diminish.

I saw the secret sect relentlessly undermining the great Church. ... good and devout people, especially the clergy, were harassed, oppressed, and put into prison ... " ..."Whole Catholic communities were being oppressed, harassed, confined, and deprived of their freedom.

...."When the Church had been for the most part destroyed by the secret sect, and when only the sanctuary and altar were still standing, I saw the wreckers enter the Church with the beast.

La Salette prophecy:

"All the civil governments will have one and the same plan, which will be to abolish and do away with every religious principle to make way for materialism, atheism, spiritualism and vice of all kinds."

...the devil will make himself like the King of all hearts. ... the devil will resort to all his evil tricks to introduce sinners into religious orders, ...

"Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist ... men will become more and more perverted."

Mother Maria Rafols (1781-1853):

"In the times to come such shall be the corruption of morality .... So great shall be the putrefaction that they shall scandalize and pervert even the innocent little children

"I am ready to pour out many graces upon My beloved Spain, which shall be persecuted so severely by Freemasonry.

"Alta Vendita" masonic document: "In a hundred years time . . . bishops and priests will think they are marching behind the banner of the keys of Peter when in fact they will be following our flag . . . The reforms will have to be brought about in the name of obedience."

Narcissism

He got the HIV bit right it was called "THE SPECIAL VIRUS PROGRAM" Special as in secret. Check out Len Horowitz's on YT and his book Emerging Viruses. The Elite are disappointed in HIV as it only killed 38 million so far, not enough to arrest growth of the black population.

Banned4Truth

The only thing I didn't like about Cooper was his insistence that the driver killed JFK.

10142551?

aliens tho? the moment i see "also, aliens" i think psyop

pedodestroyer

they're real, my friend... when if Bill Nye tells you not to believe in them, you better believe in them

10151504?

uhhhh yeah that's not how my logic unfolds.

pedodestroyer

that was a joke lol... but yeah in my opinion, they exist, just based on the stuff ive read/researched. ive been convinced about it. i could be wrong but eh, theres so much to know/learn your bound to get some stuff wrong

10151754?

i feel ya, i'm not saying they don't exist whatsoever, but i don't know if they exist in the context/capacity often touted in conspiracy circles.

garouwarrior

This is my stance on aliens as well.

BIGLY17

Well fuck I just put my BS work away for the day; time to get the real work going for today.

2impendingdoom

are you also user id LostandFound ?

HighLevelInsider

They infiltrated Catholicism through the Jesuits primarily. Lots of people blame this on the Catholic Church, but it has often been a bulwark against the Mystery Babylon system, and most Catholics are good people that hate this evil that has infiltrated their church.

Godwillwin

Yes. I am one of the them. The Catholic faith itself is pure. The Bible does not support pedophelia. Bergoglio, I'm afraid, is the black pope. I knew something was off when Benedict strangely resigned. I was further alerted to something astray when CNN and liberals embraced him and sang his praises. The lightning bolt was pretty telling as well.

garouwarrior

Unfortunate but true.

HighLevelInsider

Check out his Mystery Babylon series.

Jem777

Just read the first document in the file of a William Cooper where he discusses several key facts that are important to what is occurring right now. He writes about his top secret/special access security SAP clearance from military intelligence involving Majestic 12. For those unaware of what this is I would as you to research. Most highly classified program involved in secret space program. He also speaks of the illuminati and their takeover of the Federal Government including their involvement in Waco, Oaklahoma City, 9/11, etc.

He also references President Clinton as great distress and refers to "filegate" For those that don't know this was when the Clinton Whitehouse had FBI files brought to them in violation of law and many of those people were then labeled domestic terrorists including William Cooper which allowed for their assasination. HRC was instrumental in getting these files and is believed to still have them or copies and blackmails others with them. This was investigated by DOJ and guess who was assigned the case and shockingly found not enough evidence to prosecute.... a young James Comey working with Rod Rosenstein (current deputy AG in charge of Russia investigation) all working under Mueller. How cozy isn't it all back together to let Hilary off the hook again. They also investigated Whitewater, pardongate, & Vince Fosters murder but shockingly known of them could find evidence.

William Cooper put out an announcement he was targeted for termination then he was terminated for being a patriot by his own government.

pedodestroyer

this is amazing. 40 hours + of content... thats a lot of research material

Jem777

Agreed. People see things as black and white so many times.

The higher you rise in power and authority the more scrutiny you must be placed under. Your moral code must be checked, if you lose it that authority must be stripped.

WolfmanBill

Bill Cooper was shot dead by Sheriff's Deputies in Eagar Arizona in 2001, after he fired first critically wounding one of their number who was attempting to serve a late night warrant.

After Cooper had pulled a gun in a supermarket parking lot, and had allegedly acted in a threatening manner toward a local doctor.

The push to deify Bill Cooper who was touting terrorism and who predicted a huge false flag operation that was going to be blamed on OBL in June 2001 eleven weeks prior, just like Alex Jones did in July that year..

Is from the same Ziofascist disinformation machine that says Osama bin Laden did it .. Cooper refuted firm evidence that Jews and American traitors perpetrated the attacks.

Totally neglecting Put Option specs which made hundred$ of million$ that were traced to Mossad HQ in Yisrael, and the absence of Jews at the WTC on the day.

After warnings to be nowhere near Lower Manhattan Tuesday September 11, 2001, were allegedly distributed by the Odigo Hebrew language messaging service and from the pulpit of NY synagogues the Friday before!

He neglected missile strikes at the WTC and at the Pentagon , and instead pushed the Jordan Maxwell / David Icke line that extra humanid entities were the responsive parties .. he was a Zionist stooge!

Video: How William Cooper got killed, Published on Jan 9, 2010 .. Bill, William, Milt Cooper, known to be one of the forerunners in the movement to inform the public about the secret societies of the New World Order and UFO's. This segment discusses how he was killed. courtesy of "The Legacy of William Cooper."

sunajAeon

I have never seen any documentation to validate your story on Cooper's behaviour prior to his assassination-he was "fooled" by police who drew him out by pretending to be loud teenagers and a gunfight ensued-as far as I am concerned it was MURDER, would certainly like to see the names of the police who were involved

pedodestroyer

jones took a lot of heat and theres a video of him getting called out by a caller on how he copied Bill Cooper.. jones gets visibly angry in the video...

Jem777

Very well said. The deception is that forcing your will onto another whom you have power over is by definition strength. That is by definition weakness many people cannot see the difference. They also can't see that using force to fight or resist against that which has equal or more power is courageous.

Fighting in battle to protect innocent is honorable. Imposing your will on innocents because you have more power is evil.

Without that moral clarity there is no hope.

pedodestroyer

.... so judging by this post I take it you believe that theres a lot of truth to what Cooper's ideas are? and its not as simple as "oh its the jews!"

im just trying to come to conclusions myself

KILLtheRATS

BLESS BILL COOPER

Jem777

The FBI vault is being controlled by insider whitehats. They have been releasing files as a way to send messages to the people.

The Rothschilds are in fact Jesuits who are in fact the real Satanists that trace back to Caanan. @DarkMath & @Northern_Soul these are the same bloodlines.

Serco is an extremely important part of this story.

HighLevelInsider

I would be careful calling them whitehats. The Steve Pieczenik people are certainly one faction within the deep state. They were primarily brought out because of Hillary Clinton's incessant treason (selling secrets to China, etc.), not because most of them are true, devoted patriots.

Jem777

Agree

DarkMath

"The FBI vault is being controlled by insider whitehats. They have been releasing files as a way to send messages to the people."

I used to think that but don't anymore. FBIAnon claim release of documents can't be traced to him is bull shit. This is the FBI. As long as you don't work for Hillary & Co they can find you and could certainly find one of their employees associated with how chose the order of released documents. Seriously think about it for a second. It's laughable.

cantsleepawink

Yup. I agree.

BruinFarcePlease

Are you talking about the 4chan larper when you say FBIanon?

Godwillwin

He's not a larp. Last July (July 2016) He predicted most of the things that have happened.

Cigarette5mokingman

Yes, he is. Although I totally do not understand the constant use of the term larper around here. Live action role player? Don't you mean a troll?

DarkMath

Yes. He's not a larper. He's part of the same faction within the Deep State that got Trump elected.

BruinFarcePlease

Wow, that's really important. How many seperate sources do you to have verifying that? I'll be honest i'm sceptical of a leaker who shunned every major and even delusional news outlet, just to leak on 4chan.

I do have a follow up, in two parts. How many factions are there in the deep state? And how do you determine disinformation from the wrong faction?

pedodestroyer

well one confirmed case, i believe the wh anon guy (same guy who predicted other stuff) said people to prepare for a major story to break from a major outlet the next day and to fight it immediately before it spread and it was part of a plan. he even gave the time it would leak.

then the next day, there was a story about trump mobilizing 150,000 national guard troops to round up all illegals by the associated press, which is crazy. this story was immediately memed down by 4chan because they were expecting it. and the white house immediately dismissed it as fake news.

he came back thanking everyone and said it worked, and that it was just a way to oust a leaker. they gave the same story to a few different people or something along those lines but with a different number of troops in each story. so that when the story leaked, theyd be able to pinpoint the leaker since each staffer got a different number. thats how they caught one of them.

they literally use /pol/ for certain things like this. theres about 2 other wh anon predictions that came true and i can't recall at the moment... when i do, ill post em...

as far as the "FBIAnon" guy, his huge Q&A which can be found somewhere had a lot of things that actually we came to learn were true and this was way before trump won the election.

so personally, ive seen more than enough for me to take them seriously sometimes if they sound authentic. the true "wh anon" guy who made those predictions usually speaks in the same mannerism too. you can usually tell when its an impersonator.

Godwillwin

The other thing that WH Anon said was a big story would break at 2 the next day and it was the Loretta lynch officially being investigated announcement and it broke right at that time

BruinFarcePlease

I can't be arsed to wait to ask my follow up of my follow up so here it is. Are you okay with a deep state providing it gives you the results you want?

Godwillwin

As long as it works for GOOD. There was NOTHING good about Clinton. She is a criminal and a traitor and a thief and a coconspirator to murder. Whether you like Pres Trump or not, everyone should clearly see Clinton is evil

DarkMath

I have no evidence other than the circumstantial evidence I mentioned.

BruinFarcePlease

So you're taking this FBIanon on faith? Or is it your old friend conformation bias?

DarkMath

I think FBIAnon was part of the same Deep State effort to dump Hillary Clinton. It took me 9 months to come to that conclusion. It's not a decision I came to lightly either.

BruinFarcePlease

Are you paying attention to the actual news happening now? Trumps empty rhetoric, the type of which the world has never seen, might just stumble the west into a kinetic confrontation with China. How can you even think that is remotely possible?

The only swamp monsters removed are the ones he put in place. If there is a deep state you don't have to worry because they're fucking idiots, with zero foresight.

Northern_Soul

No shit!! A lot of my miss spent youth involved being cartered away across the country in "Serco" sweat boxes. Me and the boys used to rattle them to see if we could tip them, obvioulsly we was beating a dead horse like. So what's the story with Serco? You've just opened my eyes to something new.

srayzie

Wait. What?

Northern_Soul

I used to be a lil shit, good heart, just anti-establishment!

srayzie

But, what do you mean you used to rattle them and see if you could tip them? Are you saying that you were in the Serco sweat boxes or that you witnessed it?

Northern_Soul

My bad... Regional dialect.

This is a sweat box

https://s12.postimg.org/tubfs6xkd/image.jpg

srayzie

Oh ok. I thought you meant you were a victim too

PrideOfOshtekk

Exactly.

Rmm

Do you have any more on this topic?

Jem777

There are a lot of topics in there. Any specifically?

KILLtheRATS

Cannanites acting like Israelites.

Jem777

Exactly right who are Luceferians that are the heart of mystery schools and Jesuits are the religion they are masked under.

pedodestroyer

quick question are "Canaan" the "Mystery Babylon" religion? or is it similar at all? what connections do they have?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan

fartyshorts

All my roads lead back to the jesuits as well. Maybe I have been fooled, but for now I embrace you as a brother!

KILLtheRATS

I dont buy the jesuit thing

garouwarrior

It is a diversionary tactic/psyop to take attention away from the ZIONISTS.

ZIONISTS which comprise both Jews and also PROTESTANTS/EVANGELICALS...

There is a reason that not only the "original" FBI Anon but subsequent FBI/DHS anons mentioned Zionism as well...

Jem777

I know it is very complicated. The cannonites survived through history and hid in religion even creating mystic Judaism like kaballah. They hid where they could grow and gain the most power. This became embodied in the Royals & Jesuits with their ultimate goal having a Jesuit Pope. That occurred for the first time ever in 2013 as Francis was ushered in. The Knights of Malta then were brought to heel by Francis for the first time under his authority after Trump won.

Now the plan is how Cooper explained. Kill off the religions by using them against each other until the Luceferians have their own kingdom.

KILLtheRATS

Tell me about the last part

Jem777

The last part is the killing off of the three great religions Christianity, Judaism, & Islam. This will be done by using the people against each other but they will have no choice because of deception. Islam is their tool as you can see around the world and as written in their texts they believe and it is written that they must kill or convert everyone and only then will their Messiah come back. First the Christians, then Jews.

This creates the opposite reaction because Christians & Jews not anybody wants to die so they will have to fight. It was declared in 2015 a Christian genocide had occurred during the past few years in the Middle East. Christians, & muslims have lived there for thousands of years together and in a few short years a genocide was declared.

No look at Europe....France & Germany & Sweden and now even Italy are crumbling under threat and migration.

This creates blowback and that is what they want us all to fight. The Migrants do not even have a clue the NGO's and governments are using them until they become disposable. The left overs will be easier for them to deal with.

It is like a sporting event in the days when elite would sit in balconies and watch as prisoners were thrown in with animals for sport. Entertainment for them

UglyTruth

This will be done by using the people against each other but they will have no choice because of deception.

IMO the following best describes the deception:

"Basically, the Hidden hand claims that the Family is teaching humanity to be more empathic. For most, empathy is a defining characteristic of our humanity. Not caring for others suffering from deprivation, acts of violence, would make us less than human." ~ Dr Michael Salla, Exopolitics

The deception constitutes of the misdirection; for humanity the remedy is not empathy but reason. In context, reason is repeatedly advocated in the Quran.

Antiseed117

Great post. Cooper and Dan Brown started me down the rabbit hole.

carmencita

That list exposed by ZT was posted on there the other night and it was deleted by the OP and I contributed some comments and then the OP said I should delete them because they were found as bogus by others. EDIT: Here is the deleted post https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2051730

4_InquiringMinds

Cooper prediction of Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJp72jdQVdkYouTubeYouTube

Bill was the real deal. However trump is not an outsider by any stretch of the imagination. The youtube is simply more propaganda, twisting what Bill said to fit a narrative. The tuber is pro trump btw. Idiot youtuber or cia disinfo...inquiring minds.

independenceday

Cooper literally said, "Lock "EM UP" try them for treason :D

Gothamgirl

Outsider meaning someone who never worked in government.

4_InquiringMinds

Outsider meaning someone who never worked in government.

Yes, I know that interpretation but trump has diddled in the backrooms where the power really is so don't consider him an outsider by any stretch. Just saying outsider is someone who never worked in gov is a bit too broad from my perspective.

As with other political vocabulary, the definitions of “insider” and “outsider” are nebulous and vary according to the political or journalistic ambitions of the individual or publication utilizing the label. Broadly, a political “outsider” is a figure involved in politics and decision-making but who lacks ideological or personal associations with the most powerful ideologues and policymakers within a political party.

Trump had those associations or he would not be potus. The whole election charade was just that imho...root for the underdog is a very popular crystallizing event.

Gothamgirl

The guy just explained it in this video. I can agree the video should not have been labeled Trump, Carson someone just choose to call it that for their own purposes, but its not a lie.

"Trump was diddled in the back rooms" Do you have any proof of that accusation?

I know what the meaning is, clearly you didn't watch the video for context.

Trump is a self made man with the people at his side.

4_InquiringMinds

"Trump was diddled in the back rooms"

It's 'has diddled in the backrooms' but thanks for the laugh :) My imagination had fun with that one.

Do you have any proof of that accusation?

He's potus~

Trump is a self made man with the people at his side.

Second laugh of the day...thanks!!!!!

Gothamgirl

Same here, your trying to group him with all the rest, with just words, is the most laughable joke I have heard all year.

4_InquiringMinds

Mass murdering innocent civilians with his bombing campaign is hardly a laughing matter.

And if he has 'the people' at his side then those ppl support mass murder. There is no justification for Yemen, Syria or Afghanistan (the effects of the MOOB are not being reported in msm). Ppl cannot justify killing to expand an empire/but it's how history rolls.

Godwillwin

MOAB was a great success. Thomas Wictor has all the info on the MOAB

Gothamgirl

That has been going on a long time. So how do you know this is currently taking place, if its not being reported?

4_InquiringMinds

Honestly you have me scratching my head. This is my last reply.

The bombings have and are being reported...even by msm.

What is not being reported by msm are the after effects of MOAB (Massive Ordnance Air Blast). It's been sanitized to 'we dropped the MOAB, killed a bunch of Isis...now move along'.

I'm not going to direct you to articles...if you really want to know what a bomb like that does research it/very easy to find.

I'm beginning to think there are a lot of teenagers on this site that have no concept of what war, murder, bombs...really do. Maybe they should join the armed forces~then it will become clear. Ever wonder why the high suicide rate of vets?

Anyway, this exchange is going nowhere so wishing you the best on your explorations whatever they may be.

Godwillwin

You're wrong and are trying to poison minds to turn on the President.

Gothamgirl

You said "The EFFECTS of the Moab was not reported" and thats what I was talking about.

If your scratching your head try seeing a dermatologist.

I am very well aware of military deployments and suicides. Most of them are caused by fucked up medical care and watered down meds. Ask the Awan brothers about that.

You can not blame the current President for anything prior to January 20, 2017.

I see one incident for Yemen for 2017.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-02-09/nine-young-children-killed-the-full-details-of-botched-us-raid-in-yemen

I call bullshit on Syria for 2017

Maybe Obama shouldn't have helped financially support ISIS and it wouldn't be the way it was, over a pipeline.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/syria

Afghanistan:

Do you know how many American soldiers have been murdered this year there alone? I know everyone of their families personally.

I found not much more then this:

A spokesman for the American military in Kabul said that those killed in the airstrikes had been seen loading weapons into a vehicle. “The strike was conducted in the middle of open terrain,” said the spokesman, Bob Purtiman. “There was zero chance of civilian casualties.”

If your purpose was to come here and bash the President with no evidence, and only an opinion you should be ready to handle the criticism.

tehlolman

However trump is not an outsider by any stretch of the imagination.

I like your attitude. Sadly, most people on this site do not share our opinion even though it's really not that hard to see.

4_InquiringMinds

@tehlolman

Actually I rooted for trump during election (didn't vote however). Knowing all there is about HC hoped beyond glaring evidence that trump had some kind of epiphany/does happen to some as they mature. Cabinet picks, I made excuses. Bombed Yemen blinders came off. Those poor villagers and all their animals (essential for survival in the desert)children, pregnant woman and others slaughtered. Then using the widow as a promo in his speech to congress (think that was it) with the black widow ivanka standing alongside looking like she actually gave a shit (but not very convincingly).

I can understand why some are so diehard when it comes to trump. The diehards feel if not him then all is lost. The positive I see in this is the admin has become such an in your face joke with the trump crew that it is red pilling many who have become so numb to corruption they ignore it. The professional politicians for the most part made some efforts to hide stupidity, well, I take that back, Shrub Bush, no way he could hide it lol. trump however is such a narcissistic megalomaniac that he doesn't try to hide a thing. He brags about killing ppl while eating 'the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake'...rolling eyes. trump like all potus will do a few good things and a whole lot of bad things...it's how the system works. But he's so over the top full of himself he will be his own downfall. Might be when the deep state is done with him there will be some extremely damning info 'leaked' via our fav cia hangout, wiki. Hey, they did it to HC didn't they?

The other faithful...no different that rabid sports fans who root for a team just cause 'it's ma team'.

And not to forget that trump has his own troll and shill squad so I don't take their comments as anything to even give a whit about.

But I will say this without revocation...anyone who really does support trump supports mass murder. He was made potus to carry on with the mass murders and he is fulfilling his role. Murder, torture, rape etc are tools of the Satanist...it's part of their religion.

tehlolman

Thanks for your post! I absolutely agree.

BIGLY17

I've been saying one of your points quite often lately; this last election (and it's results) have forced many to be redpilled. I know many staunch liberals (whom I expect will stay that way the remainder of their existence) that looked into claims made all along the campaign trail and even after which forced them to look into it for themselves. When doing so, whether or not they admit it, they were faced with some very tough, thick red pills. Those intelligent and open-minded enough to do so swallowed those fuckers whole.

I agree with much of what you said. One thing I'd say is that I think he has removed himself from a lot of the military decisions made (whether this is due to lack of experience in this regard, considerations of culpable liability or something else - I have no clue) but I haven't been placing much weight on those decisions with respect to Trump overall...YET.

I hope all of these just leads to more free thinking individuals cause the shit we got now is pretty fucked. We are so ripe to be led to slaughter.

4_InquiringMinds

@BIGLY17

One thing I'd say is that I think he has removed himself from a lot of the military decisions made (whether this is due to lack of experience in this regard, considerations of culpable liability or something else - I have no clue) but I haven't been placing much weight on those decisions with respect to Trump overall...YET.

I agree on he's not making the decisions. Best guess he was told to let the military 'do their thing' and the generals etc that are on board with mass murder pull the strings/the ones who take their orders from the deep state. Best guess again that the deep state does not want a nuke war bc in that scenario there is no one left to have power over, SRA, rape, torture etc. The cabal of butt fuckers would have a knowledge of ancient history/Atlantis was not the first civilization to bite the dust when it got too out of hand. Seems like monthly a new civilization is found that pushes the 'history' of earth and her civilizations back another 10k years or so. It's a repeated pattern. The butt fuckers know this so nuking the place is not in their best interest/nor in China's, Russia's or anyone else. It's the constant fear mongering that ramps up the negative energy matrix which is what the cabal feeds on. It's all part and parcel of the tenants of the Satanist...fear is the desired state, it feeds them.

So while it looks like trump's decisions are made for him/heck, he gets his news from the tv and doesn't like to read...he is not bright at all/no scope of history, lack of comprehension on vital subjects plus showing signs of diminished mental capacity (in his earlier days he spoke in full sentences and had a wider vocabulary), he is still 'following orders' that translate into murder, torture, organ harvesting etc...and that makes him a mass murderer. If I were John Wayne Gacy's sidekick but he made the decisions and I just kept the house of horrors in order and set up for his escapades I would still be every bit as guilty.

It's like when regan was potus. Finally some sense by the deep state...pic a grade B actor while screwing the population to the wall. My mom loved him even tho his policies were screwing her. Same with trump, grade B actor (maybe C) who is able to follow a script and play the media. Never bought that black widow ivanka story/sheesh.

Imho...trump is 'turned loose' so to speak so he ad libs within a general draft of the school play. He is supposed to be unhinged, irrational, and quite frankly stupid with the laughable 4D chess thing. This keeps everyone on edge/will he or won't he? When he has served his useful purpose he'll find making deals with the 'devil' are a two edged sword.

The natives were restless so an election was used to crystallize this discontent in rooting for the underdog/then having trump come up from behind (way way behind) and win the race...TA DA. The restless natives thought they had won/and sigh, many still believe that. The ignorant masses that still make rationalizations for war and blame all the ills on the previous deep state fiasco/well, let's just say there is little to no activity in the neocortex. trump is their leader bc he has the same affliction.

Red pilling, you bet. Renewed my driver's license recently. Comes the part of 'do you want to be an organ donor'. 4 years ago my emphatic no and explanation of no ghouls are going to make the decision of keep me alive to part me out was met with stern disapproval. This time totally different...the lady sitting next to 'my lady' said what, you don't want the vultures circling? Which of course started a 3 way convo and red pilling 'my lady' who already had serious questions. When her son recently applied for his learners permit she was asked about organ donation for him and declined, not sure why, but just felt odd about it for her son. The other lady and myself gave her the information she needed and she took it all in/no blocking. We talked at length about the state of affairs...ppl are waking up.

As an aside, the 'other lady' told of her friend whose husband was a donor. No one told her just exactly what all that entailed. When she got his body back she was expecting him to be relatively intact for an open casket funeral. Instead she got a jellied blob which was all that was left after bone and skin 'harvesting' in addition to organs.

Add to this Wag the Dog, Wag the Julian, Wag the Seth and it keeps the neocortex challenged crowd busy chasing their tails with tales. Pfffft...ignore them. Focus on the ones waking up...their legions are growing not just here but everywhere. The butt fucking cabal knows this also.

We must do whatever individually aligns with our own waking up...mediation, prayer, drumming, chi arts, sacrificing a virgin at the full moon...doesn't matter. For each of us that awakens the effect is exponential. Fostering a feeling of hopelessness is engineered and we have to be aware of such and keep our focus.

My 2 cents anyway...your mileage may vary wink .

Northern_Soul

All governments suffer a recurring problem: power attracts pathological personalities and to the absolute fucking horror, America now has its own "Fictitious Kim nuke Em" but this time it's real.

We're doomed!

"We're not in Wonderland anymore Alice"

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2054177/10132473

3141592653

oh yes, now we've got two world leaders with narcissistic personality disorder battling it out over the size of their ... weapons, and mass media's all over it. i say north korea is NOT a threat, but a distraction.

Northern_Soul

I love this comment..

Have you noticed that there is no law prohibiting a television news network that supports a political agenda, from lying to millions of people.

But there is a law prohibiting people from lying to a police man, why is that? I don't know about you, but it kinda reminds me of Nazi Germany!

3141592653

totally!

star_boi

you're not alone, we just aren't as good at making a lot of noise, unlike the antisemites....

ProudTruther

If you check out this YouTube channel whyisthistrue this guy channels his spirit and tells people what's up.

DarkMath

"Cooper explains its not the 'Jews', but the satanists who pretend to be Jews"

This is how you know the FBI and/or the CIA is pumping out disinformation at a desperate pace right now to keep people from looking at the man behind the curtain.

Bill Cooper said many things but where are his critiques of the Vatican and Jesuits? Bill Cooper said the Jews were the hired help. The real problem was the Illuminati and the Jesuits who created that secret society shortly after being banished from every royal court in Europe.

The Rothschilds aren't Jews. THEY'RE JESUITS! In German Rothschild means Red Shield as in the red shield of the Roman soldier. Who's power is based in Rome to this day?

Does this guy look Jewish to you? He's Mayer Carl von Rothschild . If that guy's Jewish I've got some ocean front property in Arizona I want to talk to you about.

Mayer Rothschild looks like a White Anglo Saxon Protestant to me. And I should know. I am one myself save some Celtic blood who's talking to you right now.

To be honest Mayer Rothschild looks a lot like Rupert Soames if you ask me. Who's he? He's old school WASP Mafia. He runs a little company called Serco.

Ever heard of them?

:-D

HighLevelInsider

Bill Cooper said many things but where are his critiques of the Vatican and Jesuits?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML5JW55M1Do&list=PL11E33A6AEEB2674F&index=35

He accurately describes the fact that the Vatican's secret societies are now largely subservient to Grand Lodge Freemasonry. It's been that way for decades now.

Bill Cooper said the Jews were the hired help.

They are. Groups like B'nai B'rith are Masonic, and exist to serve the British Empire, not Jews.

DonKeyhote

Totally illogical. Masonry = kabbalah = JEWS you fucking shill. British israelism

Cigarette5mokingman

Masons do not just follow kabbalah.

DonKeyhote

One predates the other and thats as far as we need to go. Our entire social edifice is a fucking Jew front, including trannies. Why do you resist the obvious like a woman?

PrideOfOshtekk

Exactly. Jews are a scapegoat.

HighLevelInsider

Been that way for centuries. Allow Jews to charge usury, charge them taxes. If anything goes wrong, blame it on the Jews, kick them out of the country, or slaughter them.

PrideOfOshtekk

Its the way of the Royals (who are now basically Jesuits).

DonKeyhote

WRONG. Jewish pogroms were by the DIRT POOR SERFS from whom the court jews had to collect taxes and pay inflated bills when passed out drunk and forgot what they'd spent.

No psyop could have spread among all populations with Jews before any mass communication. Thats called HISTORY and to this day forms part of those countries POPULAR CULTURE.

Absolutely NO ONE JEW OR GENTILE would deny that the single most notable characteristic of the Jews is their tendency to maneuver to the top of ANY GROUP THEY HAVE INFILTRATED and since it is undeniable that many early JESUITS were CONVERSO JEWS, THERE GOES THAT COP-OUT. Better luck next time.

KILLtheRATS

The red shield was a red Jew star, a deomon to old man rchilds to put on his door.

Northern_Soul

"The Rothschilds aren't Jews. THEY'RE JESUITS! In German Rothschild means Red Shield as in the red shield of the Roman soldier. Who's power is based in Rome to this day?"

Wrong again DarkMath!!

Little Red Fox (FOX:F=6; O=15=6; X=24=6 or 666) Jesus called Edomite King Herod "That Fox"; Rothschild (Red Sheild) is a name change from Bauer (Farmer=Cain); the Red Six Pointed Star and 666 Am Mein Frankfurt address should be familiar; "we are dealing with a Cainite-Canaanite-Edomite Cult."

@pedodestroyer

logjam

Any speculation on what the 'mark of Cain' was, as mentioned in the bible?

Northern_Soul

Cain + Abel = Cainabel, Cain murdered his brother then ate him and then became a Cannibal.

Something along them lines maybe! What's your take? I'm very much interested.

logjam

I don't recall that Cain ate his brother. However, I do recall the bible recounting God putting a "mark" on his forehead.

I don't really have a take. It's one of those questions that no one really has an answer for, so I keep my eyes open. What was the "mark" exactly? No one knows for sure. It was a mark that had people leave him alone for killing his brother. I could be wrong on some of this though - it's been a while. I'd have to review to familiarize myself.

KILLtheRATS

Thank god, someone esle is making the Cannanite connection. Jews are literally from cannan

sunajAeon

Old Hebrew is Canaanite

2impendingdoom

I think its spelled Canaan

KILLtheRATS

I have it spelled like 4 ways in my spell checher. I just hit the first one that shows up.

2impendingdoom

I don't really care how you spell it, I understand what you mean, only there shouldn't be any association of Canaanites with Cannibals. the words have completely different source origins.

Although jesus turning bread and wine into his flesh and blood and sharing it, well, that is pretty freaking cannibalistic but who knows?

KILLtheRATS

The canaans the worshiped Bal ate people

bopper

@2impendingdoom @KILLtheRATS

"Never trust anyone who can’t spell a word more than one way." - MTwain suppesedly

KILLtheRATS

Izaklee

bopper

@2impendingdoom @KILLtheRATS Lol. I am such a pushover peacemaker.

2impendingdoom

lol, I wouldn't ordinarily harp on spelling, because I suck at it, but the words cannibal and canaan are not from the same source etymology.

bopper

I didn't even catch what you were getting at, I just recklessly commented :) Spell check has impeded my spelling ability. And I'm supposed to be a writer.

2impendingdoom

its what I assumed kill the rats was getting at, only maybe he's right. IDK anything anymore.

I was youtubing about project blue beam, we are supposed to have big god images projected on to the sky, which is why they've been chemtrailing it, to make a surface for the holograms. Can't wait! sounds like a great opportunity for mass rioting.

bopper

Yeah I've heard of Blue Beam, that might be the reason for the chemtrails ... people ask me occasionally what I think's going on nowadays, I say the same thing, I have no idea. I have a few core beliefs though that keep me grounded. Hindsight is the best source of insight. We shall see.

DarkMath

"VERY VERY JEWISH"

You mean like Mayer Carl von Rothschild? .

Please, don't be so gullible.

Northern_Soul

DarkMath... What "Wicked Abominations" in Solomon's Temple cause the Glory of God to depart (Eze 8:8-16)?

Phoenician Priests "Kahn Baals" taught Cannibalism which is the origination of the Word "Cannibal"; Why? To go against God's Covenant with Noah "But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat" Gen 9:4"

Do you know where I´m going with this DarkMark, Do you actually understand the interpretation behind the "RedShield" DarkMath.

Off course you do..... Rothschild are Canaanite Cannibals

"Blessed be the innocent Jews and Gentiles."

pedodestroyer

can you explain to me about the Canaanites a bit more and how they fit in to all this? im just learning these things now. does this tie in to the whole Mystery Babylon thing or is it very different?

DarkMath

"Do you know where I´m going with this DarkMark"

No. What does the word Cannibal have to do with a Red Shield?

Northern_Soul

Cain + Abel = Cainabel, Cain murdered his brother then ate him and then became a Cannibal.

The Red Shield is to show its alliance to Cain ( caananites, Jesuits, crypto Jews etc) got it?

DarkMath

"got it?"

No. I'm going with the Red Shield of the once mighty Roman Army. The Jesuits were created to counter the Protestant Reformation and reinvigorate the once mighty Vatican "Army".

I site Occam's razor: the simplest explanation wins.

:-D

Northern_Soul

"I site Occam's razor: the simplest explanation wins."

Your a tolerable cunt, I gave you that!!

;)

DarkMath

So you agree the Rothschild's were created by the Jesuit's to manage the Vatican's money using the ruse they are Jewish and thereby protect the Vatican's wealth from oh I don't know, let's say for example lawsuits by thousands of children raped by Catholic clergy?

:-D

pedodestroyer

i dont understand it then... how can people say "Oh its the jews!!!" yet still believe in these exact secret satanic societies that Cooper speaks of...

Cooper's view is that they are destroying all religions, even jews. He thinks they are destroying Christianity but they will also destroy the Jews when Christianity is dead and then finally Islam. he says all these religions to them are 'perversions' of what they believe in which is some ancient mystery religion that he explains in his series called 'mystery babylon'. which ive yet to watch because literally 2 days worth of material.. 40 some odd hours...

he believes that they love it when Jews (non talmud following jews) get scapegoated, because takes their eye off the true threat.

i could kinda believe the idea that it actually is the Jews and that this ancient religion thing is a psyop but the guy was killed, which really makes what he says seem more genuine. cooper also told people to come to their own results/conclusions/findings based on his research and not to believe he was trying to convince them of anything

HighLevelInsider

how can people say "Oh its the jews!!!" yet still believe in these exact secret satanic societies that Cooper speaks of...

Either they're shills or they're not thinking for themselves. The Bible warns of the Synagogue of Satan (esoteric Judaism).

ive yet to watch because literally 2 days worth of material.. 40 some odd hours...

Take it an hour at a time. But watch it, it's crucial to understanding how the world works.

johnpedostalol

I follow this. It's Divide and Conquer, and at the heart of Abrahamic religions is Abraham and the same God. A dangerous unity for TPTB, although all religions have been infiltrated.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the largest Christian church in Eastern Asia was destroyed in Hiroshima.

DarkMath

"I don't think it's a coincidence that the largest Christian church in Eastern Asia was destroyed in Hiroshima."

I do. Hiroshima was a Japanese Army garrison city. It was full of soldiers and local businesses to support them. Christian missionaries who originally built the church probably put it their because they thought they'd be protected by the strong military presence.

hookednosedjoooo

its not the jews

Psyop confirmed. They leak out the most kosher disinfo, these jews.

Northern_Soul

A GIFT....

"Theres nothing new under the sun" http://www.theresnothingnew.org/index/PizzaGate

@hookednosedjoooo Stay teachable my friend :)

pedodestroyer

Psyop? the same guy who used to call alex jones a shill, is a shill? the man was killed for the stuff hed say... he says its not the jews but people who belong to 'mystery schools' of the 'mystery babylon' religion. he said in the publics eye, they pretend to be jews, christians, etc. he says these people dont practice your normal abrahamic religions. they meet in 'secret' and according to him, in their secret societies , and they are the ones who control the world. he lays it out pretty well in some of his speeches. and even gives the names of the groups and people and tells you how to find out about them.

why would the FBI release his stuff now too?

hookednosedjoooo

Exactly, why would they leak it? Anyone who says thay saw ayylmao's flying around in spaceships is poisoning the well. Protip: there are no Aliens and if their was, they sure wouldn't peddle that nonsense on history channel. Project bluebeam is probably real though, thats why they shill alien nonsense in the first place.

pedodestroyer

well ill post what i responded to the guy guy with,

cooper did tell people to come to their own results/conclusions/findings based on his research and not to believe he was trying to convince them of anything. Cooper's view is that they are destroying all religions, even jews. He thinks they are destroying Christianity but they will also destroy the Jews when Christianity is dead and then finally Islam. he says all these religions to them are 'perversions' of what they believe in which is some ancient mystery religion that he explains in his series called 'mystery babylon'. which ive yet to watch because literally 2 days worth of material.. 40 some odd hours... so i cant really say for certain just yet

he believes that they love it when Jews (non talmud following jews) get scapegoated, because takes their eye off the true threat.

its not like the FBI is dropping ET stuff now. this is material cooper was speaking about for decades. the guy is killed, and 16 years later the FBI vaults whove been dropping a lot of great material over the past several months, suddenly dropps Cooper material.. him being killed is enough for me to at least give him some of my time and listen to what the guy said. people who aren't threats usually arent killed off

maybe i just gotta do more research before i am able to completely decide.. either way.. someones screwing with our world

hookednosedjoooo

The government never leaks anything damning. FBI and CIA leaks are red-herrings

pedodestroyer

at the same time though we aren't living in normal times either.. we know theres inner battles inside the government.. plus with all the shakeups in DC with the election and stuff, and FBI director Chris Wray just being confirmed... you would think that they wouldn't want to give attention to the man they had killed. the only thing this will do is have people research Cooper, and then they'd see all this information on secret societies and 9/11 being a false flag and satanic rituals and what not... i dont think these are the red herrings the FBI would want to throw out there

but thats just me, you may be right and i may be wrong. hopefully we find out whats going on soon

hookednosedjoooo

There are no good guys

pedodestroyer

well then lol. thats not a fun attitude. giving up and doing nothing wont get us anywhere. probably why we are in this mess! we are still closer than before. can't stop now. nihilism is bad!

pedodestroyer

i read that bill clinton said that William Cooper was the most dangerous radio host in the world at the time... that says a lot too. and this was during the time when Cooper apparently used to call Alex Jones a shill

10137631?

Caliban being tormented by Prospero

2impendingdoom

lol