Big News on Guccifer (One) and Guccifer 2 maybe a plant ( pizzagate )

submitted by flyingcuttlefish

[The Guccifer bog is associated with insider DNC e-mails leaked.]

The Outer Light- Original Guccifer: "Guccifer 2.0 was U.S. State Department

https://youtu.be/bsqZlm2_IBY

.... discusses Hillary Clinton and Illuminati etc.

More on this Fox News report with jailhouse interview with Guccifer (original) saying he thinks Guccifer 2 is a plant - "and claims 'Guccifer 2.0' could be the U.S. State Department" ....

https://youtu.be/r5ZsVCiDxS4

Snailracer

It's always been my theory that HRC put classified documents on her unsecured private server because she was intending to give the documents to someone, but wanted to maintain some kind of plausible deniability by claiming it was stolen (hacked). HRC has been quoted as having said that it was common knowledge that any cell phones used while on her many foreign trips would be instantly compromised, but that they would use them anyway. So it fits the pattern of her behavior.

flyingcuttlefish

I agree. I also think it was her way of 'giving' secure info to agents working for Saudi Arabia. I agree with those who say Huma is a Saudi agent - but that is opinion.

RweSure

It's goofy to believe this guy.

flyingcuttlefish

The DNC e-mails he put on online are entirely authentic and not disavowed by the DNC or any person whose e-mail was displayed.

RweSure

You don't even know who the HE in your sentence is.

flyingcuttlefish

I'm talking about the topic of the post and the Fox interview, Guc 1 who posted the original material.

Which one are you talking about?

RweSure

Guc 1 had nothing to do with the DNC.

Guc 2 of course, doesn't exist.

flyingcuttlefish

crap.

I was thinking of this -

https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/08/31/pelosi/

and it says Guccifer 2 (I thught that hack was no.1 ) ....

I have to get a link up on what Guccifer 1 is ref to so I can add better info to my leaks list page -
http://cfgate.wordpress.com/documents/

Is Guccifer 2 a phantom creation by intel agency or similar to 'salt data' for alt. media to pick up? That was my take.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/hfa-gmail-attack-723571

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/tags/guccifer

RweSure

gufficifer one was a Romanian who was never much of a hacker. He didn't have technical skills. His expertise was learning enough about famous people....like their mother's maiden name or the name of dog to reset passwords and gain access to an account. He had social skills, but he couldn't be asked to hack someone. Basically he tried what he did and he got lucky.

Guccifer 2 is definitely a phantom creation. And definitely created by an intel service. In fact, he was created just the forensic report explaining the known hacking groups APT 29 and APT 28 were BOTH hacking the DNC server. These are two groups who have been known for years to security experts, APT stands for Advanced Persistent Threat. They are connected to the Russian intel agencies, FSB and GRU. The idea that a incredibly technical proficient hacker would name themselves after Guccifer is ridiculous. Also when contacted by journalists he couldn't speak Romanian. The Russian hacking campaign on the US so far beyond that DNC that it's goofy to think Seth Rich did anything.

flyingcuttlefish

Thank you a lot for that summary. I am trying to keep all this hacking-source info available on cf-gate blog so people can do their own research. Sometimes a story appears mentioning this or that hack item (WikiLeaks, or FBI Vault or other source) and I want readers to quickly be able to do follow up on the varous sources.

I am putting your comment there in my Hackville post so I can find it later if I need it, also for the readers. It has my eratta on hack sources for the Documents page.

https://cfgate.wordpress.com/2016/08/17/hackville/

twistedmac11

This confirms what many of us have already been thinking. However, Guccifer 2.0 was the one who first named "Seth" as the Wikileaks leaker, which lends to the idea that the Seth Rich situation is some kind of psyop.

DerivaUK

Seth Rich is not dead

flyingcuttlefish

and . . . on that last thought . . . is Seth Rich really dead, or missing, or hiding out in Israel as Webb claimed. Some gaps in the 'dead' idea.... especially with that very odd family. And his brother works for Lockeed Martin.

twistedmac11

Also remember that his neighbor said he saw Rich walking with police after the shooting, and that he didn't look injured. The whole thing reeks of a psyop.

flyingcuttlefish

Yeah, I recall that plus many oddities about the hospital staff stories that night, the disappeared computer and phones etc. etc. and I forget if anyone ever did get a copy of the autopsy report.