Narcissism

Total BS... Another bedroom basement LARPer.... Its too LARPing to be disinfo...

VCBestor

Into your eyes is not where I'd prefer to shove this >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klzwNeY5Zds

Narcissism

The Dutch guy is real enough.....

VCBestor

Wrong. This whistleblower is legit af.

SoberSecondThought

The claims in the video are really, really rambling and implausible. At one point in 1981 or 1982 the kid goes on a White House tour, sees Bush Jr. abusing two children, gets in a fistfight with him, and then Bush Sr. tortures him and turns him into a mind-controlled sex slave. Later, Bill Gates offers this 16-year-old kid a one-third share of Microsoft, and he goes to Bush Sr. for permission (still as a sex slave) to accept the shares. And then he hears something through the door that sounds bad and goes to tell Al Haig. And on and on.

I'm not downvoating it. It's so over-the-top that I think this must be deliberate disinfo. The question is, what true story is it intended to discredit? My guess is that it's meant as protection for Bush. Roger Stone has been pushing the story of how Bush was behind the attempted assassination of Reagan, and they've tried twice to kill Stone. It's the only part of this massive, mind-boggling tale that might actually be true, and I think the point is to poison the well, to render Bush's assassination plot laughable by associating it with all this goofy stuff.

VCBestor

Wrong. This whistleblower is legit af. MKUltra pedogate isn't goofy. I won't mention what you deserve for suggesting that!

SoberSecondThought

Let's be clear. I agree that MK Ultra existed and that it was a very big deal, because CIA documents prove that. I agree that Pedogate is real. The problem is that several prominent "witnesses" tell stories that are unverifiable and completely unbelievable. For example, Brice Taylor has claimed that she was a sex slave of Bob Hope and Frank Sinatra, that she had sex with every President from Kennedy through Bush Sr. (including Jimmy Carter), that she had sex with Elvis and Sammy Davis Jr. Really? That couldn't be disinfo, couldn't be a mentally ill and highly suggestable person just rambling on?

I believe the CIA did some truly horrible things, and is still doing them. I do not believe that Bill Gates offered a random teenage boy a one-third share of Microsoft. Quit threatening and posturing as if this is somehow an unreasonable position.

SoldierofLight

For the most part, those were my impressions as well when I watched the video the other day. Also, some of the info is conflicting. I have to add that I think Stone is absolute disinfo so that muddies the water even more.

SoberSecondThought

I would be interested in seeing evidence that Stone issues disinformation. His books seem well-researched. I've checked some of his sources and they are invariably real.

Occasionally, when speaking on-air, he muddles things. For example, when talking about Vince Foster, he correctly focuses on the testimony of Patrick Knowlton, who went to Fort Marcy Park to take a leak just when Foster's body was being dumped there. He then gets little details about Knowlton wrong, probably because he's speaking off the cuff. But I've listened to Knowlton himself talk about the events of 20-odd years ago, on talk radio, and he also contradicted or muddled his original testimony in small ways. That's fairly typical stuff.

Stone talks about the Clinton death count and for the most part is up to date, but he evidently hasn't heard that the murder of Jerry Parks has been solved, and wasn't due to Clinton. Parks' wife and son paid for a hit against him, and made up the story that he feared being whacked by the Clintons. They would have gotten away with it, except that his wife remarried and then they killed that guy in much the same way .

I don't expect Roger Stone to keep up with every last detail. If he's spreading disinfo, on a major scale, I have yet to see it.