RE: Arpaio pardoned despite involvement in botched child-sexual-assault cases ( pizzagate )

submitted by argosciv

I've been doing some reading and while this won't necessarily provide anything "new", I felt it important to share a lengthy, pre-2016 source of information pertaining directly to Arpaio's involvement in the alleged 400(or more?) cases of sexual assault against children, which were not investigated or which were otherwise 'botched' by the department(s)/employees under his command.

Read all 3 pages (source: http://archive.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2011/12/04/critics_tough_sheriff_botched_sex_crime_cases/) )

page 1: http://archive.is/HSC0k (source link + "?page=1")

page 2: http://archive.is/rDfHd (source link + "?page=2")

page 3: http://archive.is/35fjf (source link + "?page=3")

Note: this part at the end really got my attention...

In their follow-up on the case of the 13-year-old attacked by the man claiming to have a broken car, El Mirage police discovered Arpaio's office hadn't interviewed the victim.

An El Mirage detective went to the girl's home just off the city's main drag. The girl's uncle said she and her mother weren't around and took the investigator's card with a promise to ask them to call.

The mother never called back. She and her daughter's whereabouts are unknown.

The case of the molested 3-year-old was returned to El Mirage police unworked five months after the initial report. The family's beige tract home was deserted, the phone disconnected.

This is surely a point of concern, set aside arguments about racism/immigration and such for a moment - the focus point is Arpaio's blatant disregard for minors who are victims of abuse & that alarm bells should most certainly be raised about Trump's pardoning of Arpaio - albeit that a pardon confirms guilt.

Sorry if the connection isn't already apparent, feel free to suggest improvements to the post, if any rules are broken or at risk of being broken.

fogdryer

You talking about me behind my back again. Lol

Strawtinman

Sadly no good deed goes without attacks. Sorry to hear damage done. You are not the first.

argosciv

Oh, shit, I do see that grave error in my reading now. Not that I haven't apologized profusely already, but again, I'm terribly sorry for the propagation.

argosciv

EDIT TO MAIN POST: (I'd like to put it at the start of the main post, but apparently, I can't edit it...) Please note that the following is strongly contested, I mean no claim to it being fact, simply something possibly worthy of discussion - I have, since posing this, been attacked by, well, I can't be certain who, but, someone who has access to the ip addresses of users. Major damages suffered, to both my reputation and plenty more.

I apologize for the propagation of contested material, but, I think someone has severely overreacted.

argosciv

@Commoner please take this^ into genuine consideration

quantokitty

You shills don't stop.

Same shit; different day.

argosciv

seriously? me? well that's uh... I think you're about the 2nd person to ever throw that at me here.

I'm a reasonable person, where do you think I'm pushing something? This is not only my first submission here, but it's based genuinely on how I feel about what I've read so far on this entire subject.

By all means, talk to me before accusing me of shilling.

(First submission to this subverse* SECOND ACTUALLY! Sorry, I forgot the other one that got burried in the first few weeks)

twistedmac11

@quantokitty is quick to call people shills, don't worry about it

quantokitty

@quantokitty is scum.

argosciv

this gave me a much needed giggle <3

twistedmac11

That seems a little harsh, but hey, if that's how you see yourself...

equineluvr

If you're gonna stick around here, then get used to it.

Around here, a "shill" is defined as "Anyone who has an opinion that differs from mine or presents facts that I don't like."

argosciv

I'm not even trying to present this as a fact that I uncovered, it's just something I came across which I thought was worth sharing for the sake of discussing specifically, the uninvestigated/botched cases, whether or not there's anything to it, is exactly what I'm trying to understand - instead I get dos'd and worse...

Commoner

There are no facts in any of these sources. All hit pieces on Joe using democrat pro illegal immigrant hacks that I researched.

By saying many of them were illegal alien children, they were attempting to gain sympathy for illegal aliens.

Many of the victims, said a retired El Mirage police official who reviewed the files, were children of illegal immigrants. Again, they are targeting Sheriff Joe, with no facts to back them up.

Bill Louis, then-assistant El Mirage police chief who reviewed the files after the sheriff's contract ended, believes the decision to ignore the cases was made deliberately by supervisors in Arpaio's office -- and not by individual investigators.

Jerry Laird, is a democrat, but the net has been scrubbed of that fact.

El Mirage Detective Jerry Laird, who reviewed some the investigations, learned from a sheriff's summary of 50 to 75 cases files he picked up from Arpaio's office that an overwhelming majority of them hadn't been worked.

As is apparent in this article, the pro illegal immigration powers started the investigation as a hit piece on sheriff Joe.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/ex-police-chiefs-book-details-arpaios-negligence-in-el-mirage-cases-6454675

"What we learned was that Arpaio and his people had been spending so much time on getting publicity for his so-called 'illegal-immigration' publicity routine that [the MCSO] had mishandled — really screwed the pooch on — dozens of potential sex-crimes cases that just disappeared. It was beyond my comprehension, and it was repulsive to me both as a police officer and as a human being." permalink parent save edit delete reply report

Commoner

set aside arguments about racism/immigration and such for a moment

Of course you would like to set aside the reason for the witchhunt.

argosciv

youwhat?

No, the reason is simply that my focus is on the 400 unanswered cases of assault against children - that takes precedent over any qualms (one way or the other) about racism, immigration, etc - now, if these happen to factor directly into the unanswered cases of child abuse - sure, bring it up.

But if you can't see that the children are what's important, regardless of race, I invite you to ignore me and my concerns.

Commoner

There were not 400 case of sexual assault against children . There were 400 cases of sexual assault. You have nothing but biased reporting by democrat hacks who were on a witchhunt.

In fact, according to a report from the Associated Press in December 2011, Airpaio’s office failed to investigate “more than 400 sex-crimes” that were reported in Maricopa County from 2005 to 2007, “including dozens of alleged child molestations—that were inadequately investigated and in some instances were not worked at all.”

http://archive.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2011/12/04/critics_tough_sheriff_botched_sex_crime_cases/?page=full

Sands said officers had subsequently moved to clear up inadequately investigated sex-crimes in El Mirage and elsewhere in the county. He said leads were worked if they existed and cases were closed if there was no further evidence to pursue.

"But if you can't see that the children are what's important, regardless of race, I invite you to ignore me and my concerns."

So the democrats want to blame Joe for illegals not wanting to work with law enforcement because they might get deported. That is why they were trying to get them to 'come out from the shadows" The democrats use 'caring about children' every chance they can to push their agendas. That is all that was going on here. Just like Hillary is an 'advocate for children'..

msgtw123

Well, so are we supposed to feel better knowing that he did a crap job of investigating sexual assaults? Anyway, the guy has been in power for a while, and you don't stay in power that long without turning a blind eye to the misdeeds of those in power, and doing plenty of favors for them. I have no doubt the guy is corrupt, through and through.

argosciv

I'm not a bloody democrat, of all things. I genuinely actually care about what's going on here and, having not even heard of his name(not even a us citizen ffs), what I was reading concerned the hell out of me.

When I lashed out about the children being the focus, it was because I thought you were trying to just deflect back to the immigration side of things.

I'm not the bad guy here, swept up in some confusion, sure, but not here to cause problems.

Judgejewdy

Yeah, pity they dont give a crap about what's going on in their own backyard. Since when do the libs (to be fair, 99.9% of dc politicians) give a SHIT about the kids? Their sudden concern (about this person and this person only) should tell you all you need to know.

Commoner

This Sheriff Joe thing has been posted at least 3 times today. Now the New York Times is running the story. Makes me think something big is about to happen.

argosciv

makes me think I've been caught up in some bullshit, seeing the other posts after it.

I do apologize for the propagation, though, the damage has already been done to me.

fuspezza

Thank you for posting

equineluvr

Prepare to be downvoated into oblivion, OP.

While I support Arpaio's anti-illegal position/enforcement, the guy is obviously a PLAYER or he wouldn't have been sheriff with such a large jurisdiction for so long. I also have heard too many "stories" about him from reputable sources, including GOPers in the Phoenix area.

This forum is filled with Trump worshippers who are too blind to see anything except that their "DON" pardoned him, so he MUST be a "good guy" or a "HERO," when nothing could be further from the truth. Then there are some who will support anyone who has the same political affiliation, in this case GOP.

So, have an upvoat from me. If folks here are really about "saving the children," they will at least put their bias aside long enough to look at your info and consider it.

argosciv

Yeah, I'm sure I'm gonna cop it for this one... ah well. Hopefully the upvoats balance it out? xD

Not that I'm really bothered about the uv/dv ratio one way or the other - I just felt that the elephant in the room was being ignored.

EDIT: NOT* (awkward typo was awkward)