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] pungent 2 points (+2|-0) 1.1 days ago

fuck this convoluted fake esotericism

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[–] FellowshipScience [S] 1 points (+3|-2) 1.1 days ago

Esoterica by it's very nature tends to be convoluted my good man.

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[–] pungent 0 points (+0|-0) 57 minutes ago

nope. divine knowledge is accessible to all. it is our birthright. convoluted nonsense like this serves to obscure the truth, and the truth is actually pretty simple and easy to understand. esoterica is meant to be representative, nothing more.

sure you would

I did.

Not in my experience. Any accounts of mine were deleted, despite the traumatic nature of their revelation.

Voat is devoid of empathy and any genuine expressions are quickly suppressed.

--TRIGGER CONTENT WARNING ON LINKED MATERIAL. --

This survivor spoke up anonymously in December last year , throwing this here to add for any lurker survivors so they know they are definitely not alone.

Post about RA Anon

This was the first post on that from December

Sharing the relevant images of their redacted medical records here, again, because it's important to realize that survivors do have documented evidence of this from years and decades before pedogate/pizzagate broke or before spiritcooking was a thing people knew about. etc.

EEG report achnowledging "absence episodes" (dissociation) and temporal lobe issues that are known as part of multiple personality disorder

Childhood drawing by RA Anon

Partial, redacted medical record 1

Partial, redacted medical record 2

Partial, redacted Medical Record 3

Partial, redacted medical record 4

Partial, Redacted medical record 5

This survivor was ritually abused and electroshocked similarly to the child in the 'skippy' fatherhood video, and saw trafficking, torture, the usual brith and cannibalism related material, etc. They had alters by the time they saw professionals at four, as referenced in the record linked above, and by age seven was in still experiencing altered states as mentioned in the EEG report.

Temporal lobe issues shown in the EEG report are an important validation of RA Anon's experience of multiple personality disorder. There is a wealth of medical literature regarding temporal lobe involvement with multiple personality disorder/ dissociative identity disorder.

Article on dissociative identity disorder associated with temporal lobe issues .

Forum discussion on DID & temporal lobe interaction .

Medical study on epilepsy & mutliple personality disorder in a patient .

Another medical report discussing the relationship between the conditions, which are intimately related .

NOTE: I supply the above articles and forum post to indicate the involvement of temporal lobe issues with multiple personality disorder, which shows why RA Anon's EEG is so significant. However, I do not necessarily agree with the conclusions of all the articles. I believe that electroshock, (skippy fatherhood video experiences) and other forms of extreme trauma cause multiple personality disorder - and that the effect of this abuse is ALSO to cause temporal lobe issues. So in my eyes, the temporal lobe is showing a symptom of having undergone splitting and serious abuse - one does not have epilepsy and split without trauma. Confusion on this point is an easy way for medical professionals to largely ignore the serious damage done by abuse.

RA Anon will speak about their actual experience at some point if it becomes safe to publicly identify the location of abuse.

ETA: So - survivor lurkers - you are NOT alone.

Thank you. I'll be sure to read Allison Miller. I believe, like any other system, therapy is a mixed bag, and PTSD specifically, I assume processing and going through the trauma(s) isn't as productive as one assumes. I think holistic care is ideal, but our healthcare system does not support this, and many therapists are unequipped to deal with complex trauma. Sadly, those that feel the most alone in their suffering are affected, and the failure of our doctors affirms our rightfully cynical outlook. I'm grateful to have found my current therapist, though it's bankrupting me. At this point, I don't care, as I would have killed myself long ago if I didn't get treatment.

The hardest part for me now, as I have fallen apart completely, lost everything after my last hospitalisation: marriage, job, friends. I've spent a year trying to get back on my feet. Thankfully my Mom is helping me out, but I'm ashamed of myself as a 32-year-old man. I'm conflicted as she is in denial about how she enabled the abuse, neglecting and abandoning me. It's useless trying to talk about with her, as she immediately takes it as a personal attack. I suppose I still resent her. She asks me what I want; I say just to listen. She locks herself in her room instead.

Thank you for your bravery in speaking out, Pgategirl.

Something about pizzagate made me obsessed about pedophilia and the exploitation of children. The way the media dismissed the investigation, it reminded me how alone I felt, and nobody protected me.

I started getting flashbacks of when my father groomed me, convinced me that hardcore pornography was a rite of passage from boy to man -- he exposed me to sicker and sicker stuff.

More flashbacks came to when I was younger, him encouraging me to walk around the house naked, recording and taking photos. Thankfully he never touched me or violated me sexually. The abuse was mostly emotional, physical, perversion, and him exposing himself.

I remember going through his closet as a child, finding brochures of little Thai girl escorts, pictures of Mexican girls, clearly underage. He had many addictions, sex, gambling. I hope I never become like him.

The general public is too scared to admit that pedophilia and incest happen more than commonly believed. If the issue were acknowledged societally, we would have to take responsibility for our apathy and allowing this epidemic to go on for so long. Instead, people cling to public figures because it shapes their ideology and identity. To admit that "your guy" is raping children is to recognize that you are partly responsible. It's taken me to have a complete breakdown, catatonia, shock therapy before I could acknowledge my CPTSD. Thankfully I found an excellent therapist and improving my life. I'm learning to trust and retake risks. If you are a survivor, I recommend the book "The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma," it's been invaluable to understanding how my brain adapted to cope.

Yes, please do. Know there will be trolls, but also there are MANY on here who are of the light and working to end this. While we will never know the horrors you faced, telling your stories will help all of us NEVER let those horrors happen again...and it will help you heal :-)

I'm sorry that happened to you.

great message, I am so glad you are here!

Sadly the wonderful The Needle Blog has been closed by Gojam. It was a great place for survivors as well as research into the UK side of things.

https://hooktube.com/r5erQW0i5Ps

Good, we need people that can encourage abuse victims to come foward. What they need right now is hope.

To those who are lurkers. Your abusers are weak cowards who's only power over you is fear. Voat is anonymous, let that be your shield. Use that shield and show them who has the real power. You are not alone. We of the v/pizzagate community are here to help avenge your sorrow and expose your tormentors.

"Don't forget. Always somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember that, you are not alone."

this is a very important post. we can't crack this without the survivors. and the survivors need society on their side. it's almost impossible to recover without social support and currently they have none. we need them to speak out and open people's eyes - though i understand the deep fear implanted by the abusers.

Hi there Pgategirl. Can you add a link or two to your post? Our submission rules only allow research posts that have sources linked in them (otherwise we'd have the folks who aren't friendly on here making nasty-grams with no way to remove them). This doesn't mean we don't want discussion, such as you are initiating -- it just needs to happen in the context of linked research. I'm going to leave this up for now so you can edit. Thanks.

I was warning my friend about Elsagate yesterday as she is pregnant. She was asking why people make those videos and why YT ignore it. I said we didnt really understand why but theorised it was based on mind control. I then explained trauma bases mind control and relayed some survivors experiences. She had never heard of this before (grew up in China). I said there were a lot of accounts on YT. After i thought to myself maybe i shouldnt have told her these horrible things as i wonder maybe i should have never uncover whats going on. But then i thought if all those brave adults/kids that come forward to say their truth but found they were completely ignored bcause no one wanted to hear anything unpleasant, deserve their message to be heard and shared.

Thank you

Indeed

Thank you for speaking out to other survivors as yourself. Your courage is commendable. I don't know if I could muster the same kind of strength. Hopefully you will bring out others and that will be a great help to finally uncover and unmask those responsible for the pain you and others have had to endure. We on here are committed to doing just that. Our hearts are with you and we hope you find the peace you deserve. Thanks again Pgategirl. Edit: Down Voating my comment about a victim of SRA? You are sick. Since you did not do that to anyone else I know exactly who you are.