FreeRebel

Thank you. I can tell.

Jem777

Great research @9217 ....I know names of psychologists who were directly employed to create MPD & DID with connections to Escalen as you know. As far as as SPECT imaging one of the original psychologists to use SPECT for good is Dr.Amens in the Bay Area. He might be interested in taking on a new project to demonstrate brain trauma through SPECT in ritual abuse or DID....I have some contact info and have spoken to him before.

9217

Thanks!

ScalarWhaler

Want psych meds and will squashing treatment? Tell a psychologist about how fucked up the world is. The more specific and personal you get, the stronger the drug prescribed... Tragic.

9217

I absolutely 100% agree. I said as much on the steemit post, in response to a commenter there:

"People who report ritual abuse to most - even well intentioned and understanding - mental health professionals are going to get labeled psychotic and put on extreme meds if they stick to their story. I wrote this because I want to make sure that survivors know they are not alone, or crazy."

I absolutely agree that in 99.99 % of genuine ritual abuse survivors, sticking honestly to their memories which are 100% valid will result in the label of psychotic/schizophrenic. They will also invariably be prescribed a heavy regimen of extreme medication. This is a tragedy.

equineluvr

Negative, woo-woo tard.

I DO pride myself on powerful application of my impeccable critical thinking, however. That, of course, results in DEBUNKING ~80+% of the BS on this subforum.

DerivaUK

"Impeccable critical thinking". Upon whose judgment, Mr Asinine?

9217

Oh he does. I wrote the Esalen/RA Anon series. Esalen pt 1

This is part two of Esalen which discusses Skinner

This is the very long part 3 to Esalen which does not mention Skinner but feeling like a completionist.

Here is a much earlier post on which mentions Skinner's work being catalogued at Esalen along with a number of known CIA MKULTRA doctors - I very much need to clean that post up, I didn't know how to use markdown at that time. 0_0 heh.

I'm definitely not the only one that noticed Skinner being shady, but the connection to Esalen is not one that has been remarked on as much.

9217

Thank you! Not a problem

FreeRebel

Jack Ruby had Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, also known as Psychomotor Epilepsy; only one-half of one percent of all epileptics carry this particular diagnosis; and there is an intriguing lack of specificity in the literature as to its etiology, that suggests it is consistent with an iatrogenic disorder, or one that did not arise by itself within the patient, but was rather inflicted upon him by doctors.

equineluvr

"an intriguing lack of specificity in the literature as to its etiology, that suggests it is consistent with an iatrogenic disorder, or one that did not arise by itself within the patient, but was rather inflicted upon him by doctors."

^^ * Non sequitur. No, a lack of specificity in the literature suggests just that: poor documentation.

equineluvr

... and NO rebuttal. That was entirely predictable.

You tards still fail to see the big picture. THIS is why are you enslaved by the Jews. You are uberemotional and lack logic and reason.

equineluvr

Jacob Rubenstein , you mean.

9217

And guess who did his psych evaluation!

B.F. Skinner , the same creator of the Skinner's Box I mentioned in the OP.

Possible he was an MK person.

I agree with your point as well, and that's why I felt it was an important point to talk about insofar as RA Anon having an EEG reading like that while also reporting ritual abuse.

Onetime1

The seminal description in 1992 by Dr. D C Hammond - known forevermore as the Greenbaum Speech - explains in great detail how intricate, damaging, and purposeful these barbaric acts were. Speech was given at a national therapists' convention and is viewable online.

9217

Here are a couple of links to that speech! It is sometimes hard to find:

Greenbaum speech archive

Another version, archived

equineluvr

Anyone who has EVER encountered one of those people KNOWS they are total wrecks.

Further proof that book-peddling "whistleblowers" like Cheryl Hersha are 100%FRAUDS!!

FreeRebel

Your position is incorrect. I wonder if you are sincere, or On The Job. Cheryl Hersha happens to be an impressive individual, an RN, who serves as guardian ad litem protecting children. She has a chip implanted by Jose Delgado which has become incarcerated in the bony structure of her skull and is quite clear in X-rays. She cannot be around ANY microwaves as they activate this antiquated chip and interfere with her bodily functions. I also know both of her co-authors, and they have both been attacked, as has Cheryl, for writing that book. That doesn't just HAPPEN. Secondly, your comment makes it seem that ANYONE who actually writes a book is automatically a FRAUD. I'm appalled that this should be your default reaction. It would make a lot more sense that you are just a lowly shill and not even trying very hard.

equineluvr

"?I also know both of her co-authors, and they have both been attacked, as has Cheryl, for writing that book. That doesn't just HAPPEN."

Of course it can! Many people are good at snuffing out FRAUDS. FRAUDS piss them off, so they ATTACK THEM.

If they're legit, then WHY THE DISCLAIMER? These sisters don't pass the smell test:

"Credibility collapses, as improbabilities are piled on inconsistencies, and the truth is buried beneath simplistic, pulp-adventure prose. In closing, the authors claim that "Their story is true," following with an admission that they found no government documents about the program or the sisters . An elaborate disclaimer about the "presumed thoughts and imagined words of the participants" will lead many readers to ponder just how much real events have been fictionalized."

In addition, many FRAUDS falsely claim to be ATTACKED. In the "conspiracy" realm, claiming that "a dark SUV tried to run me off the road!" gives them INSTANT "CREDIBILITY." That's why the ploy is used so often.

"Secondly, your comment makes it seem that ANYONE who actually writes a book is automatically a FRAUD."

Negative. I neither stated nor implied any such thing, especially since I hang out with authors and am writing a book myself.

" I'm appalled ..."

Of COURSE you are! This subforum is rife with fake "moral indignation," "outrage," and fingerwagging. You retards wouldn't have anything else to talk about if you weren't overreacting to some FALSE report without checking it out first. Just like you are doing right here, right now...

FreeRebel

Anyway, Cheryl Hersha is neither epileptic nor DID, so dragging her name in on this thread is so gratuitous, it calls attention to your lack of expertise in simply flailing away at anything that falls under your guidelines to be defamed. RANDOM. Truly RANDOM.

equineluvr

"Cheryl Hersha is neither epileptic nor DID,"

That is PRECISELY my point, which, of course, eluded you.

Anyone who has gone through 1/10 of the horrific traumas that Cheryl H. claims to have suffered would be a nonfunctional DID or epileptic. Anyone who has worked in a clinical setting has seen this firsthand.

CASE CLOSED.

9217

Posting some content of this article here:

"One important aspect of RA anon's documentation is the inclusion of an EEG report, in addition to the documentation of abuse descriptions made by a psychologist. The EEG is also shown here. The EEG documents both dissociative episodes/altered states and temporal lobe abnormality.

I begin this post with the effect, which is temporal lobe epilepsy in combination with Dissociative identity disorder, and end the post with the cause, which is severe trauma including electrocution of young children, as seen in the Podesta/Skippy/Fatherhood video, in a human version of a Skinner's box.

My intent here in this post is to show that the above medical records, combined, are very strong for providing validation of ritual abuse, as well as the real physical evidence it leaves behind in terms of actual differences seen through the EEG, in brain activity.

The EEG showing temporal lobe issues combined with use of alters and statements of ritual abuse, together, are important for other survivors to see, in order to know deeply that they are not crazy, not making anything up, and that they are not alone.

There is a wealth of medical literature which has noted the involvement of temporal lobe epilepsy specifically in multiple personality disorder (now called dissociative identity disorder). Although some medical professionals suggest that temporal lobe epilepsy can cause dissociation, I believe that the more likely explanation is that temporal lobe epilepsy is a physical, neurological symptom of dissociative identity disorder - a verifiable symptom, NOT a cause in and of itself. I believe that temporal lobe epilepsy may be caused in many cases (when genetic factors are absent etc) by traumatic events that are so severe as to cause personality fragmentation. RA Anon experienced abuse around birth/fetuses/ cannibalism, witnessed trafficking and abuse of others, and experienced electrocution similar to what is seen in the Skippy/Fatherhood video, as well as more ritualistic abuse and other varieties of trauma. I believe that the EEG of RA Anon confirms the real effects this trauma causes neurologically which coincides with multiple personality disorder and with the observations of RA anon's childhood psychologist.

It is important to note here that the alter name "Laura" has not been redacted, as it is not RA Anon's real name. This documents the use of named alters at age 4. The therapist states - "[RA Anon] used 'Laura' throughout the session and corrected the therapist when they used [RA Anon's given name]." This is crucially important in documenting multiple personality disorder.

Many physicians view temporal lobe issues as either co-morbid with dissociation or even suggest that the seizures are the cause of personality fragmentation. I fundamentally disagree with this conclusion. I believe that severe trauma as found in MKULTRA type programs and ritual abuse, is the cause for BOTH dissociative identity disorder, and the resulting temporal lobe issues. I see the temporal lobe abnormalities documented in RA Anon's medical record as a symptom of the real abuse they suffered and a validation of their MPD - not as a cause of the splitting, but a very real symptom of it.

equineluvr

SPECT imaging shows a lot more than EEG ever will.

Frontal lobe hypofunctioning (ADHD) is the most common manifestation. Temporal lobe abnormalities are less common.

9217

I don't know about SPECT imaging; this EEG was performed in the mid nineties (date on image is not redacted) - not sure if SPECT was widely used at that point.

equineluvr

No, it wasn't. EEG is obsolete at this point.