part of the title deleted when I hit send. I can't get back in to the title to correct it.
Should read, UK House of Parliament member describes US political arena as "stuffed with chickenhawks.
Tonight I checked out a few articles about the Project for the New American Century because this is the first time I heard about it.
duckduck.go provided a short list. At the top was an undated article by PrisonPlanet.com
I'm not an Alex Jones fan, but I read it anyway.
article from:
https://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_louise_010603_pnac.html
of PRISON PLANET.com
I was interested to see the following quote at the bottom of the page:
"Tam Dalywell of the House of Commons had this to say, "This is garbage from right-wing think tanks stuffed with chickenhawks, men who have never seen the horror of war but are in love with the idea of war. Men like Cheney, who were draft-dodgers in the Vietnam war."
It's spelled Dalyell, not DalyWell, but aside from that the word
chickenhawks
stood out.
Chickenhawks is a traditional name from his era referring to kiddy diddlers, or boy lovers. Considering that period of time the Franklin Scandal stink was still in the air, and later project flicker shows the investigation of '
chickenhawks
was quietly and discreetly dumped.
Dalyell was describing American politicians when his own house of commons has a lot of information supporting UK political chickenhawks.
He died in Jan 2017 so unfortunately no interview can be held to ask for details.
The use of the word Chickenhawks supports c.p. with the US congress.
Any thoughts on this?
Did anyone during that era come forward and question Dalywell when he was alive? Any UK members on board who might know or have access to this?
**This is important because it could show a member of UK parliament attesting to chickenhawks within the US senate, specifically in association with Dick Cheney's name.
Potential for U.K. dig into material. **
▼ Vindicator
@shoosh : I am giving this an "Accuracy in Question" flair. Dad was a chopper pilot in Vietnam and a "chickenhawk" is NOT a "chickenlover". It's someone who sends other people out to fight and die and doesn't risk his own hide. It's a common term in military circles, especially among the guys being sent out to risk their butts by ringknockers and other officers who've never been under fire.
▼ shoosh
from wiktionary:
chickenhawk
n. A political epithet. A draft-dodger, especially in the Vietnam War, who nonetheless currently supports United States overseas military engagements.
n. A common name for one of three species of bird- the Cooper's hawk, the sharp-shinned hawk and the red-tailed hawk.
n. A sexual predator- an older, usually more powerful man who preys on adolescent boys for sex.
How are you sure which definition it's referring to?
Politics are full of both definitions, based on the Franklin Scandal sexual definition and the military definition.
▼ DonKeyhote
Chickenhawk is a warmonger who never served himself -- a hypocrite. This context in no way suggests a reference to the pedophile meaning. Delete this thread, then your account.
▼ shoosh
from wiktionary:
chickenhawk
n. A political epithet. A draft-dodger, especially in the Vietnam War, who nonetheless currently supports United States overseas military engagements.
n. A common name for one of three species of bird- the Cooper's hawk, the sharp-shinned hawk and the red-tailed hawk.
n. A sexual predator- an older, usually more powerful man who preys on adolescent boys for sex.
You've assumed a definition. How are you sure?
American politics is full of men who could be classified under both definitions, based on military action and Franklin Scandal issues.
go ahead and delete your comment and then delete your account. now. Don't start a new account.
▼ SimonRothschild1
Up the harshness
▼ Rmm
kind of harsh there! however you are correct with your definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_%28politics%29 "chickenlover " is the word with pedophile meaning, as we all know by now
▼ carmencita
I would try pinging @TrishaUK to see if she can help. She is on a different time zone. So let's give her some time.
▼ TrishaUK
Thanks for the ping, but afraid I am not familiar with Tam Dalyell - I see Vindicator mentiones that - chicken hawk is not equal to chickenlover, but according to the 2nd definition on dictionary.com it is:- chicken hawk - 1. Also called hen hawk. (not used scientifically) any of various hawks said to prey on poultry. - 2. Slang. an older man who seeks out young boys as sexual partners. - Sorry I was not more help guys. - Not that I disagree with Vindicator about its true meaning, it probably did start out as meaning 'It's someone who sends other people out to fight and die and doesn't risk his own hide'.
▼ carmencita
Well if you take the term literally, as in chickenlover, it may be a problem. BUT. I think I have seen that chicken hawk is a term more used in the UK. You know, as there are certain things that we share but have different meanings. There can be a small "slang" change and still mean the same. I think I saw the term used with Saville, but don't quote me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCzaF2ve4J4
▼ TrishaUK
Looks like they may have stolen the term 'chickenhawk' from USA Air Force, as this pilot, Robert Mason wrote a book called Chickenhawk, nothing to do with paedophilia, its about his experiences as a helicopter pilot in the Vietnam War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_(book) .
▼ 2impendingdoom
you can self delete this post and repost it with the whole title. FYI
▼ shoosh
full article here: https://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_louise_010603_pnac.html