EDIT oops!! (tittle should say AIDS "disease")
In this post referencing the Jon-Benet Ramsey Murder
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2116649
@votesarestolen
linked to a book by David MGowan
In Chapter 21, which starts on page 329, McGowan explains all the irregularities in the Atlanta Child Murders which happened in the early 1980's. He presents a strong case for believing that the CDC (Center for Disease Control) which is in Atlanta, was behind the murders and the FBI played a role in the cover-up.
https://ia800206.us.archive.org/14/items/DavidMcGowanProgrammedToKill_201603/David-McGowan-Programmed-to-Kill.pdf#page=338
in .
Here are some interesting facts from the Chapter
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The killings did not all fit one pattern as the public was led to believe. Many victims who did not fit pattern were left off list
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Not all of the victims were kids. Many were adults
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Killings of blacks continued after capture of Wayne Williams, who was eventually convicted of the murders.
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Authorities failed to follow substantial leads
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A suspiciously weird phone call made about taking a kidnapped kid across state lines made it a federal case and brought in the FBI
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Vice President Bush visisted Atlanta to show his 'support' for the residents
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Locals took note that unidentified white volunteers showed up for the searches
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Eye witnesses saw one of kids sodomized and beaten to death by a known laundromat owner who was wearing ceremonial robe
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Witnesses say that known pedophiles were involved
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Local authorities did not want to charge Wayne Williams , but FBI pegged him as guilty before any evidence surfaced
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The was no strong evidence to show that Williams committed any of the murders, but he was probably involved in a pedophile ring and made an easy patsy
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Witness Shirley McGill said her it was a cult involved in drug trafficking, child pornography, and Satanism; and it was composed of members in both Georgia and Florida. One of the leaders was her part-time lover, Vietnam veteran Parnell Traham. Police were involved in cover-up
McGowan believes that stirring racial tensions may have been one goal for the murders. However, he believes a more sinister theory
is that the kids were used experiementally by The CDC which is based in Atlanta, for testing the AIDS virus. Aids was new and unknown to the CDC and it was primarily a white man’s disease. He believed that the CDC intentionally infected victims to track the progression of the disease. Many of the pedophiles who were involved later died from AIDS.
▼ new4now
I have this.....http://ahrp.org/2009-commissioned-investigation-absolves-nyc-of-80-foster-children-deaths-in-aids-trials/
main one busted was NY in Between 1985 and 2005
There have been so many experiments...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States
▼ Votescam
That could likely mean the government -- a VN soldier -- drug trafficking, child porn, "Satanism" ....
▼ votesarestolen
Seeing that Traham was a Vietnam veteran made me think of the Phoenix Program, the CIA's assassination and psychological warfare program in Vietnam which many researchers (like Mae Brussell and Dave McGowan) have connected to the phenomenon of serial killers in the US.
▼ Votescam
Edward Landsdale was big in Vietnam/Phoenix Program ... and JFK assassination.....
but didn't know that Mae Brussell and Dave McGowan had connected Phoenix with serial killers in US!!!
???????????!!!!!!!!!!!
▼ votesarestolen
Yeah, a lot of this is summarized in McGowan's excellent book Programmed to Kill . Mae Brussell, in light of the SLA/Patty Hearst case and other mass killings meant to terrorize the public, made the observation that:
And Programmed to Kill outlines many Phoenix Program connections to serial killers, such as:
Lt. Col. Michael Aquino, an Army intelligence officer who affiliated with the Church of Satan and later started the Temple of Set, worked in psy-ops division in Vietnam, and thus most likely was part of Phoenix
A major rash of serial killings in Northern California (Herb Mullin, the Zodiac, Richard Chase, etc.) occurred in 1967-73, corresponding with the years the Phoenix Program was in operation
Donald DeFreeze, the leader of the Symbionese Liberation Army, was held in Vacaville Prison and was most likely part of an MKUltra experiment involving Colston Westbrook, a Phoenix operative
Richard Ramirez's older cousin Mike served in Vietnam as a Phoenix operative, bringing back a collection of human heads and Polaroid photos depicting his massacre of the Vietnamese people. Mike shared these souvenirs with Richard Ramirez, while telling him stories about his exploits in Vietnam.
Arthur Shawcross, another famous serial killer, was almost certainly part of the Phoenix Program as well when he served in Vietnam
Dave McGowan doesn't mention this in his book, but I also find it interesting that F. Lee Bailey, the famous lawyer who McGowan implicated in framing Albert DeSalvo as the Boston Strangler, defended Ernest Medina when he was put on trial for the My Lai massacre. (On a deep politics wiki that I run, I have a page on F. Lee Bailey that documents much of Bailey's spook-friendly career.)
▼ Votescam
Have copied this into my email to read shortly, I hope. My email is overflowing with "start here messages" ...
These threads move away so quickly and there's a lot of info in your post.
:)
▼ votesarestolen
Hope you do get a chance to read it. The serial killer phenomenon is connected to so many aspects of deep politics, and I was surprised to see the Phoenix Program coming up again and again as I read McGowan's book. You might also be interested in my wiki that I linked to you, which covers both election fraud and other deep political topics.
▼ Votescam
hi votes--
Will try ... and will try to get back to you. Will also try to look back for the "Wiki" but hope I picked it up.
Did you ever look at the link I continue to post for VOTESCAM --The Stealing of America ????????????
Here it is ...
http://www.votescam.org/
Two brothers who were journalists -- one happened to run for office at that time in order to report on the experience --- noticed the coming of the hack-able computers... and the very odd and unbelievable right wing results they were reporting. They were very experienced in researching ways to steal votes and rig the machinery. This is way back as the first computers came out - - 1967. Large computers landed at MSM 1965.
The continued to research it into the 90's at least -- and their kids keep the website going -- you can read the book free there.
:)
▼ Votescam
McGowan believes that stirring racial tensions may have been one goal for the murders
Agree --
One of the overriding reasons for this "false flag" event would very definitely have been to increase racism and white fears of blacks.
Whatever else they did with the children may have been primary -- but ... why AIDS? Why not vaccines?
Certainly racism was an added issue.
AND ....
Looks like they were using infected pedophiles in this operation. Q: Were they "blacks" or "whites" or both -- ?
▼ Blacksmith21
I don't post videos. This one is relevant.
Biohazard - Uncivilization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCKZ9yJf67o
Population control. The only alternative left was to increase the death rate, no one wanted to pick people out of a crowd and line them up for execution, neither did they relish the possible consequences of an enraged public upon discovering that they were being systematically murdered. A very short but very deadly global war was contemplated. Something else had to be done that would absolve the decision-makers of guilt, something that could be blamed upon Mother Nature. The answer, a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist for which no natural immunity could have been acquired. The United States population was infected. The vaccine was administered by the world health organization. Whatever causes AIDS was in the vaccine I'm the first in line with a sentence on deathrow Take a look around and feel the wind blow And to those motherfuckers who decide our fate Annihilate, come together and kill their hate Cut their heads off and put 'em on a stake Stuff their bodies in a barrel and throw 'em in the lake Let the leaches feast on their own Motherfucker you're wrong, your on your own
We all go to fight for our rights Stand against those opposed We all go to fight for our rights
Population Control
Over population is the most serious threat to the whole future of our species.
Rip their arms off from limb to limb Make them regret they thought they would win Cut their tongues out to stop spreading lies Their poisonous venom has kept me blind Open your eyes don't you realize Come together, it's time we rise Population Control
The vaccine was administered by the world health organization. The cure will be administered to the survivors when it is decided that enough people have died.
▼ Votescam
As far as vaccines are concerned -- and in present evidence -- if you want a Mind Control program then vaccines work to destroy not only our brains but will also break down your gastrointestinal system and pretty much destroy your body.
We are now watching generations of children going through this with AUTISM.
▼ jangles
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1590670 Wikileaks provides relevant information to the citizens of the world, an email from the global intelligence file, referenced and quoted below, draws attention to Stratfor and the Aids challenges driven by the Bulgarians who were funded heavily via the CGI.
Does anyone know what Stratfor's involvement here?
El-Fatih Children's Hospital in Benghazi, Libya
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/66/662217_bbc-monitoring-alert-bulgaria-.html BBC Monitoring Alert - BULGARIA Released on 2013-03-11 00:00 GMT
Email-ID 662217 Date 2011-06-29 07:51:06 From [email protected] To translations@ stratfor.com BBC Monitoring Alert - BULGARIA AIDS BENGHAZI “Earlier in the day the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry issued a joint statement of the foreign ministers of Bulgaria and Croatia in which they said they recognized Libya's Interim Transitional National Council (TNC) as a legitimate representative of the Libyan people.
Libyan Foreign Minister Abdul Ati al-Obeidi thanked the EU and Bulgaria as its member for averting a possible bloodbath in Benghazi, by launching the air strikes.
"We perceive the ties with Bulgaria as friendly," TNC representatives said. The participants in the meeting commented the case of the five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian intern who were charged with conspiring to deliberately infect over 400 children with HIV in 1998, causing an epidemic at El-Fatih Children's Hospital in Benghazi, Libya.
The six were sentenced to death twice and eventually released following a deal reached with European Union representatives on humanitarian issues. On 24 July 2007, the five medics and the doctor were extradited to Bulgaria, where their sentences were commuted by the Bulgarian president and they were freed.
At the Tuesday meeting the TNC representatives said that new facts are to come up concerning the case, which will show that "it was staged by Gaddafi's [Al-Qadhafi's] regime."”
▼ jangles
https://voat.co/v/Peptidegate/2028254
▼ jangles
https://www.rnw.org/archive/heated-debate-over-libyan-hiv-kids
In 1997, there was a massive outbreak of HIV in Benghazi’s El-Fatih Children’s hospital. More cases occurred in the years after. In total, 426 children and 18 mothers were infected with the deadly virus. “We buried the 73rd victim last week,” Ramadan al-Faytouri tells RNW. “A little girl named Aisha Zeyyeni. Her mother had died earlier.”
Doctor El-Hojouj and five Bulgarian nurses working in the same hospital were accused of deliberately infecting the children. Following a highly politicised trial, a Libyan court sentenced the medics to death in 2004. The death sentence was upheld on appeal but eventually commuted to life imprisonment by the Libyan Supreme Court in 2007. Following the intervention of Nicolas Sarkozy, the then-president of France, the medics were then extradited to Bulgaria and released.
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/66/662217_bbc-monitoring-alert-bulgaria-.html
Email-ID 662217 Date 2011-06-29 07:51:06 From [email protected] To [email protected] BBC Monitoring Alert - BULGARIA AIDS BENGHAZI
“Earlier in the day the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry issued a joint statement of the foreign ministers of Bulgaria and Croatia in which they said they recognized Libya's Interim Transitional National Council (TNC) as a legitimate representative of the Libyan people.
Libyan Foreign Minister Abdul Ati al-Obeidi thanked the EU and Bulgaria as its member for averting a possible bloodbath in Benghazi, by launching the air strikes.
"We perceive the ties with Bulgaria as friendly," TNC representatives said. The participants in the meeting commented the case of the five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian intern who were charged with conspiring to deliberately infect over 400 children with HIV in 1998, causing an epidemic at El-Fatih Children's Hospital in Benghazi, Libya.
The six were sentenced to death twice and eventually released following a deal reached with European Union representatives on humanitarian issues. On 24 July 2007, the five medics and the doctor were extradited to Bulgaria, where their sentences were commuted by the Bulgarian president and they were freed.
At the Tuesday meeting the TNC representatives said that new facts are to come up concerning the case, which will show that "it was staged by Gaddafi's [Al-Qadhafi's] regime."”
-Hiv Trial in Libya-
In April 2001 Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi made a speech at the African summit on HIV/AIDS. He told the conference that the world AIDS epidemic started when "CIA laboratories lost control over the virus which they were testing on black Haitian prisoners"
He called the HIV crisis in Benghazi "an odious crime" and questioned who was behind it."Some said it was the CIA. Others said it was the Mossad Israeli intelligence. They carried out an experiment on these children." He went on to say that the trial would be "an international trial, like the Lockerbie trial.
The prisoners were sued by several Libyan police officers for slandering them with the allegations of torture. However, on 27 May 2007, the prisoners were acquitted of these charges and the plaintiffs ordered to pay the legal fees.
NATURE.com Says
“Libya's travesty.”
Six medical workers in Libya face execution. It is not too late for scientists to speak up on their behalf.
Nature 443, 245-246 (21 September 2006) | doi:10.1038/443245b; Published online 20 September 2006
-“ It was not a plot orchestrated by the CIA and Israel's Mossad, as President Gaddafi alleged in 2001 — an allegation that has driven a popular thirst for vengeance in Libya.”
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v443/n7109/full/443245b.html
http://www.ahram.org.eg/Archive/2001/4/29/ARAB3.HTM
Original Arabic Article
Rough Translation
Revealed the brother of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi , Leader of the Libyan Revolution for the Libyan children have been exposed two years ago the city of Benghazi to the worst crime known to humanity when some of the nurses by injecting foreign women these children AIDS viruses during vaccination. Gaddafi said in his speech at the closing session of the work of the summit The African Union for Combating AIDS and Infectious Diseases held in Abuja over the past two days that Libya will put the full file of this crime against the World Health Organization, and the various international organizations concerned but the world knows the size of the plot that Her trauma of the Libyan people, which did not Tschn children.
He added that some of Gaddafi is likely to be the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or Israeli intelligence (Mossad) behind this crime, stressing that some of these children , Have been transferred for treatment in Europe, And that the European health departments fully aware of this issue , while handling other children with a number of Libyan clinics .. Gaddafi stressed that this work is characterized by nationality and Inferiority can reveal the ugly face , which introduced the AIDS virus to Africa lassitude forces and the depletion of its funds in attempts to contain it Africa is becoming a consumer market for medicines and medical preparations that treat AIDS, and global monopolies seek to prolong the spread of AIDS for as long as possible so as to double their profits from the sale of drugs and preparations to mitigate the effects.
Gaddafi said that international medical circles said more than once it was able to isolate the AIDS virus , which means it has made great strides on the way to control it , pointing out that the medical laboratory can access to a complete cure for this disease , as well as the possibility of reaching a vaccine is protective of it, But the capitalist transformation of large corporations without realizing it in order to profit huge. He pointed out that Gaddafi smallpox , which the World Health Organization announced the disappearance of the world is still a virus to now trapped in the CIA laboratory, and asked Gaddafi , why does not America handed over to the World Health Organization , stressing that the goal is to use it within biological warfare, and said that Libya will give rise to this humanitarian issue in international forums, and that it should adopt the peoples and governments a decisive stance on these issues concerning the fate of peoples.
▼ Are_we_sure
The timeline makes no sense for AIDS whatsoever.
Also white men would be more likely to have access to healthcare and thus easier to track their progress than black children in 1980.
How does this theory even work? None of the children died of AIDS, how does asphyxiating children test AIDS?
▼ Commoner
How could they die of AIDS before they were murdered?
▼ Are_we_sure
Yeah, that's why I asked how does this theory even work? What's the connection between murdering children and testing AIDS? I'm confused.
▼ Votescam
Agree -- It became clear rather early on that the public wasn't going to run scared of AIDS and wasn't going to turn back from supporting civil rights for homosexuals -- in fact, the AIDS epidemic which seems to have been injected into the homosexual community purposefully probably created more awareness of the lack of civil rights for homosexuals and more awareness of their oppression by the heterosexual community.
The paranoia and hysteria shown by a few Americans seemed quickly rejected by the public.
Don't know what the final figures were on the loss of homosexual lives.
And trust that the outcome is more positive recently.
▼ Commoner
they were testing the transmission of the disease from one person to another. Many of the kids had syringe marks in the genital area. They would not be able to explain an isolated group of black kids dying from aids when it was a white MAN'S DISEASE.. They had to be killed before that happened.
▼ Are_we_sure
lord, that's lunacy.
Syringe marks in the genital area? So the guy writing about this lunacy doesn't even know about how AIDS is transmitted.
Also this is laughable
The murders predate the CDC even knowing about AIDS. The murders started in 1979.
▼ Commoner
Was the CIA's MKUltra program lunacy too?
▼ Are_we_sure
The magical powers people have attributed to it is.
▼ Commoner
You didn't answer the question.
▼ carmencita
Did you ever see the CNN Special Documentary on the Murders and Murderer? I have seen it twice. I have not seen it for about 5 yrs. and don't have cable anymore. The person railroaded for the crimes (although he was a pedo as you say) was a perfect choice. He was super creepy thus making the whole story very believable. Was CNN already a vehicle for the Alphabet Agencies then? Maybe. @jangles
▼ jangles
It is because he is guilty. Aws isn't good for anyone.
▼ Commoner
How do you know when the CDC knew about AIDS? CNN tell us that?
▼ Are_we_sure
Because there's a well established history of the beginnings of AIDS in the US, a book and an HBO movie have been made about it. AIDS itself doesn't kill you, other diseases do. These diseases were not killing people in 1979. By 1981 they were killing people and doctor's were starting to make connections.
The first cases of Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia were reported in Los Angeles in late 1980 and 1981. And the CDC published it first report on them on June 5 1981. And since I know what to search for I'm looking at the CDC document right now. A month later, the NY Times writes an article about an outbreak of a rare cancer, Kaposi's Sarcoma, in homosexuals. And they didn't know what was causing it.
One of the early AIDS deaths in NYC was from a disease that mainly affected cats.
AIDS wasn't even called AIDS until the middle of 1982.
▼ AgainstPedos
Does your research say exactly where AIDS started? a)Africa where both eating and having sex with "bush meat" is the norm was the common theory at the time. Spread to Europe & US by airline stewards. b) Intentional attempt to kill of "undesirables" in the US by developing another bio-weapon. c) Strain of known killer of pests destroying crops that mutated when in contact with humans who already were weak and had a bad cut. d) Other theory? There were so many at the time.
▼ Are_we__sure
Aids started in Africa and they now believe the first case goes back to the early 20th century. https://www.avert.org/professionals/history-hiv-aids/overview
The first case in the US was a teenager in Missouri in 1969. At the time they had no idea what killed him so they preserved his blood and test it 20 years later and found he had HIV https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Rayford
▼ AgainstPedos
From reading the book excerpt, and thanks so much for the link, I would come to a somewhat different conclusion. The man eventually arrested for 2 of the adult male murders with questionable evidence, and therefore implied to be responsible for the many other children of varying ages, was a pro photographer and children's music promoter. After his conviction it was proven he photographed & filmed child porn for a Satanic group.
Never charged was the pubic laundry owner. There were multiple witnesses that he violently raped, choked and beat boys on more than one occasion. Later it was believed he participated in some of the murders.
Also involved was a KKK member who wanted to start a race war.
The entire police investigation was a sham & very sloppy with plenty of holes. After the 1 conviction clear evidence of child prostitution was admitted by Atlanta's Mayor. After all child and adult victims came from 1 of 4 poverty stricken areas of the city. Many of the victims knew each other, and were friendly with some of the adults who were killed.
Many other details in the story offer a strong case for Satanic rituals and snuff films. Victims were reported with crosses cut into their foreheads and stomachs. Sites of animal ritual abuse were later found. One of the leaders of the Satanic pedo circle was claimed to be a Viet Nam vet.
Still several of the suspected killers who were never arrested died a few years later of AIDS. Karma?