BREAKING: DNC Payments to FBI-Backed IT Guru Crowdstrike Coincide With Seth Rich and Shawn Lucas Deaths ( pizzagate )

submitted by quantokitty

Relevance: The Awan brothers, the DNC, and Seth Rich's death are central to #pizzagate. Finding out who was involved in his alleged murder will blow the lid off pizzagate .

Here's the link to a breaking story:

http://truepundit.com/dnc-payments-to-it-guru-crowdstrike-coincide-with-seth-rich-and-shawn-lucas-deaths/

In their report, America First Media Group shows that the first payments made were preemptive measures on May 5th, 2016. They add that the next payment to Crowdstrike, totaling $98,849.84, took place on July 11th. ...

The report indicates: “The final payment to date is August 3rd, 2016. This coincides with another murder in the District of Columbia. Shawn Lucas, who died on August 2nd of last year, was the DNC Process Server and close friend of Seth Rich.”

The Awan brothers truly are the key to blowing this conspiracy wide open.

angry_mob

parcel tongue! watching potter now.

Vindicator

Bullying, huh. 🤔 Apparently you are not familiar with Voat. We are about free speech here. You are free to say retarded shit like

Alma Mater is Latin, the Vatican is Latin, Allumni is Latin, if you wiki all those titles they all pertain to the holy mother Mary. They had thier first global Allumni gathering in 2016. It was monumental.

And I am free to point out how stupid it is.

There are only two reasons I can think of that someone would post something this lame: They're shitfaced and screwing around on a Friday night, or they're paid to make PG investigators look bad. I gave you the benefit of the doubt. ☺

Vindicator

Might want to save some of whatever drug you're taking for later. It's making you sound retarded.

Joe10jo

Haha!

eucalyptus_spearmint

We try to look out for one another around here. :)

quantokitty

Don't you remember? They're potentially' on Weiner's computer.

quantokitty

Don't get scared; get involved.

Cleaning this mess up is what's going on, but to do that, this ha to be uncovered. Be happy it's occurring. Think of what's gong to go on n the heads of those believing all the false narratives and lies. They're the ones that are gong to be red pilled by all this.

dontdiegoose

You cheeky monkey! I just read in the hillary wikileaks about the haiti earthquake on an email date from 2001. Can someone get this into to Tom Fitton and the JW folks? They might want to adjust their FOIAs.

Are_we__sure

That's an insane theory. You're now claiming this guy had access to Clinton's server?

dontdiegoose

Conceivable!

13Buddha

I feel defeated...and ill.

SoSpricyHotDog

Oh good, yeah, dying is bad... mmmkay?

SoSpricyHotDog

Hey, I'm not sure if your last sentence was a joke or exaggeration or not... but, if it wasn't, and you are seriously feeling any kind of pressure. I want to offer you some comforting words.

When this began to break last year and the shit hit the fan... DNC/Podesta/HRC leaks blowing up the web. Reddit getting shut down. 4Chans being flooded with "Zzzzzzz" shills. Archives being scrubbed. And an immediate anti-PR campaign being waged against a totally inaccurate PizzaGate narrative... etc, it was (and still is) absolutely overwhelming.

Every day we find more leads, more links, more dead-ends, more setbacks and more momentum... and that's just from the comfort of our PC monitors while chasing information. Beginning to think about what's actually happening in DC behind closed doors on both sides of the aisle... in the alphabet agencies... starts to crush your mind with endless possibilities and unknown outcomes.

However, you need to take pride in the fact that you are part of the right side of history. You are educated and aware. You are possibly a part of a movement towards the next Renaissance, towards breaking the "chains" wrapped around true progress/transparency. Smashing the iron curtain and entering a new age of logic paired with accountability, stemming from the destruction of this MASSIVE conspiracy theory.

Is everything accurate? No... Is every lead legit? No... Will Voat make a true difference in the course of history? Probably not... but, rest assured, you are far more valuable/educated/aware than most people. Take pride in that and keep your chin up.

You are on the right side of history.

Blacksmith21

Nice pep talk SoSpricy. We've both been around from the "start" and have watched a lot of people ride this roller coaster. Some can take it, some can't, some shut down, and some are paid to come here and try to discredit any research.

There are not many of us out here, from what I can tell, who are operating at the level this sub is - in terms of generating leads, analysis, and intelligence.

4 Chan is a nightmare. I can't follow anything there. I wait until it makes it onto Voat before I'll look.

The one thing missing from the pep talk to anyone listening - take time to enjoy life, family, friends, and anything else good and relatively untainted by the evil in this world. Disconnect from this sub once in a while. Then come back to it.

To be forewarned, is to be forearmed.

SoSpricyHotDog

Agreed 100%... Family & Career first... this kind of research/info gathering/red-pilling has become a hobby of mine. It's replaced TV, and I don't need to sleep that much :)

I disconnected for about 3-4 weeks and came back fully recharged. October will be a good month my friend.

Have a great weekend everyone!

rooting4redpillers

You are on the right side of history.

That's THE one thing that keeps me coming back here, to this endlessly depressing and discouraging place.

Vindicator

R4R - I don't find this place depressing at all. Every post I see you guys make, every attempt to hold TPTB accountable, every debunked shill attack makes me proud to be here and in the company of those who refuse to bow to the power of the mighty and corrupt. There are so many here willing to risk themselves to see this through.

Dressage2

I was reading today that 17 politicians were asked their opinion on Awan and the domestic violence being purported by three women. There were 15 that would not comment. What the hell does that tell you? Politicians love to shoot their mouths off to whomever will listen. I think they are all probably being blackmailed and panicking about what he is saying to the Feds.

angry_mob

it's pretty telling indeed.

quantokitty

I believe you're absolutely right.

It's why nothing gets done in Washington. They're dirty, dirty, dirty.

SoSpricyHotDog

Reposting my comment below because it is now hidden as a result of "Are We Sure" getting downvoated into oblivion:

If these implications are true... and these large payments coincide with some kind of action (or inaction) related to Shawn Lucas and/or Seth Rich, that are made by the DNC. The payments were made before/after the resignation of Debbie Wasserman Schultz by the way:

  • 7/10/16 = Date of Seth Rich's death
  • 7/11/16 = $98k paid to Crowdstrike for "Maintenance" via the DNC
  • 7/24/16 = D.W. Schultz resignation (I'd like to remind you that she maintained Imran Awan's employment until the day after he was arrested - 7/24/17 & fired on 7/25/17)
  • 8/2/16 = Date of Shawn Lucas' death
  • 8/3/16 = $113k paid to Crowdstrike for "Maintenance" via the DNC

Multiple email threads from the DNC leak implicate "Imran" (but no Awan... nor is he CC'ed on any emails) just before this timeline opened up. Indicating that Awan had access to at least Pelosi's and DWS's hardware:

"On May 4, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Kroll, Amy wrote: Just spoke to Imran, call me whenever GB and I’ll update you, don’t delete anything yet."

"On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Kroll, Amy wrote: I do not have access to her ipad password, but Imran does. I’ll call Geoff now"

"Subject: Re: DWS MOVEMENTS - 5/12/2016 Pelosi is doing s closed door meeting. No staff or anyone allowed. Kaitlyn come to Rayburn room and get her iPad for Imran. Thanks."

Those are the most direct mentions of access/higher ups at the DNC working w/ Imran. Interesting that they don't just include him on the emails... no? If it's a security issue, then he clearly should not have had access to their hardware in the first place. Especially not if he is the only one on the chain that had their passwords!

So... with all of the circumstances above, you're going to tell me that Crowdstrike completed the investigation to "determine" that the DNC hacks were of a Russian origin. And never bothered to interface with, interview, or meet Imran Awan - the highest paid IT staffer on their payroll?

For putting so much faith into the Russian hacking narrative Crowdstrike was paid to weave, you clearly don't have much faith in their investigatory prowess if they didn't even have a discussion with Mr. Awan. He should have been one of the first people they met with.

quantokitty

Thanks for reposting this. I did miss it.

No it doesn't make any sense if they didn't know or had doubt. I can only conclude that there was no reason to ask Awan because they did know. If they'd asked him and gotten the truth, they might have been forced to testify to what he answered. This way they can just pretend they believed the Russian hacking fairy tale.

And not for nothing, but those payments look so damning.

Are_we__sure

And not for nothing, but those payments look so damning.

This is called confirmation bias and you give a classic example

Confirmation bias... is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses..... .People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs.

Confirmation bias is when we ignore all other explanations. For example,. Do these bills seem excessively high? Because Crowdstrike did actually do work, so any "hush money" would be on top of that. How many people would you have to pay off?

Also Crowdstrike identified APT 28 and APT 29 as the culprits. Was that report fake? Because a fake report would cost something like 9 figures. Why? Because if independent companies examined what they did, but didn't confirm it, they could be driven out of business. They are a one billion dollar company. If you had a one billion dollar company, what would you charge for a few months work for consulting, hush money for 2 murders, and a fake report that could drive you out of business or make you a 500 million dollar company instead of one billion? I would charge a lot for that.

I have a question for the investigators. How much did the DNC pay Crowdstrike in 2016?

quantokitty

Shills gotta shill.

Are_we_sure

Am I a shill because you believe someone is paying me or because I expose your nonsense?

I'll ask again. How much did the DNC pay Crowdstrike in 2016?

remedy4reality

i sincerely hope you're one of the suicides, you kid fucking faggot.

Are_we_sure

Don't project your demons onto me. Thanks.

Shiggz

"Were all gonna hang"

quantokitty

Oh, hey! Upvoat for you!

Goddamn! Would have never thought to do that. Now that we know, let's dig, dig, dig!

SoSpricyHotDog

This is huge. Should be easy for Crowdstrike to explain these payments, right?

Well, let's hear it Crowdstrike! We would love to see the itemized breakdown of the services rendered for these massive payments (when compared to the other transaction amounts)

Are_we__sure

Dude, are you kidding? Do you not know how much specialized IT services cost? Especially when you're security's ALREADY been compromised? Do you know how few firms are capable of doing what they do? They are a cutting edge, next generation cybersecurity firm. Massive payments?

Their competitor FireEye made 100 million last year.

Here's some of what they did.

Installed their software on every DNC machine.

Monitor all program activity on these machines. ....what commands are being executed.

Compare this activity to a massive database of computer activity from PC's they monitor. (A database that monitors about a trillion computer events a year.)

Isolate the security events to compare them to previous hacks. Look for identifiers

So what's your basis for saying these payments are out of the ordinary?

SoSpricyHotDog

So what's your basis for saying these payments are out of the ordinary?

The chronology of the payments... the other smaller payments surrounding these larger ones. Furthermore, it was the FBI that funded the outsourced investigation via Crowdstrike. The funding did NOT come from the DNC: https://www.usaspending.gov/transparency/Pages/RecipientProfile.aspx?DUNSNumber=969809446&FiscalYear=2015

Other high-tech companies have also won business from the FBI, including CrowdStrike, a cyber forensics firm that received a one-year contract for $150,000 beginning in July 2015. That period included the time when Russian state hackers are believed to have penetrated the computers of the Democratic National Committee and tapped into the email of the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

Source: http://www.mcclatchydc.com

I'm not questioning the amounts themselves... if anything they are LOW. I work in this space, on a playing field similar to Crowdstrike, and the cost of licensing/software setup/analysis to conduct an investigation such as this should cost significantly more. Especially when you look at some of their other contracts that have been awarded.

Did you actually read the resulting Crowdstrike report? The "evidence" of a hack? It was an embarrassment... I could have done a far better job making fabricated evidence look/sound better than they did for 20% of the contract amounts they were given. Nearly a total of $350,000 between the FBI/DNC to put a shitty PDF report out that focuses on generic security tips and some activity from a out-of-date Ukrainian exploit that left fingerprints all over the server?

All the while, the FBI never found it prudent to look at the server themselves?

Come on dude. Your skepticism is healthy, but, this stinks and you know it.

Are_we_sure

Furthermore, it was the FBI that funded the outsourced investigation via Crowdstrike. The funding did NOT come from the DNC:

No. It was not. Your quote shows nothing of the sort. If that's the whole your evidence, you've jumped to a completely unsupported conclusion. That's like saying the FBI bought a Ford the same year I my care was delivered. Therefore the FBI paid for my car.

I'm not questioning the amounts themselves... if anything they are LOW.

That's because the nonsense news site pushing these articles have not shown ALL THE PAYMENTS. Which is why I asked my question. They are cherry picking.

The chronology of the payments... the other smaller payments surrounding these larger ones.

And why do you find this odd? Personally, to me it seems like some small expenses that a person can put on a company card and larger payments that are invoiced....notice how this theory ignores the dates of when the invoices were sent.

If Crowdstrike's report was so bad, why did their competitors confirm it? They had an opportunity to damage a rival company by undermining their research.

Why did Threat Connect confirm their work? Why did Fidelis confirm their Work? Why did SecureWorks confirm their work? Why did FireEye confirm their work?

SoSpricyHotDog

No. It was not. Your quote shows nothing of the sort. If that's the whole your evidence, you've jumped to a completely unsupported conclusion. That's like saying the FBI bought a Ford the same year I my care was delivered. Therefore the FBI paid for my car.

No... my evidence comes from the fact that the FBI specifically admitted they paid Crowdstrike to handle this investigation for them. They've also openly admitted to not having looked at/interfaced with the DNC servers at any point in time. Your "argument" makes no sense.

That's because the nonsense news site pushing these articles have not shown ALL THE PAYMENTS. Which is why I asked my question. They are cherry picking.

Again, you are wrong. The source of information on these articles and the payments themselves are being pulled from the government's own public repository of contracts and expenditures. That image is the full representation of monies paid to Crowdstrike via the DNC. The link I provided also provides the full payment list made from the FBI to Crowdstrike. There is no cherry picking being done.

Why did Threat Connect confirm their work? Why did Fidelis confirm their Work? Why did SecureWorks confirm their work? Why did FireEye confirm their work?

What work? The report was a pile of useless nonsense that any Comp Sci 101 student could have pulled out of their ass. It was garbage and there were just as many tech/IT firms that undermined the work and scrutinized it as being extremely amateurish/inaccurate - you think that these other tech firms (which also rely almost entirely on the public sector for revenue) are going to spit in the face of their #1 client?

Also, are you just pretending that Assange is not offering up concrete evidence that Russia had no involvement with these "hacks"? Just like the media, the intel agencies and these IT firms - when the truth comes to light and we know that Russia did NOT hack the DNC, you are going to need to sit quietly on your side of this debate and absorb what actually happened. Then, once that sinks in, you'll need to ask yourself WHY this happened... and WHY there was such a coordinated effort behind obfuscating the details/truth.

Until then, you could always send an email to your local representative and inquire as to why the FBI's own IT/Tech division failed to investigate the DNC servers for this topic that has completely engulfed the media with accusations and endless "guilty until proven innocent" verbiage.

I think your skepticism, while appreciated, is not going to hold up on this one.

RweSure

No... my evidence comes from the fact that the FBI specifically admitted they paid Crowdstrike to handle this investigation for them.

You have not shown this at all. If you have evidence of this please provide it.

Also remember that the FBI reached out to the DNC in 2015 saying there was evidence they were hacked by the same Russian groups that Crowdstrike later identified.

Again, you are wrong. The source of information on these articles and the payments themselves are being pulled from the government's own public repository of contracts and expenditures. That image is the full representation of monies paid to Crowdstrike via the DNC

Of course, I'm not wrong. I know what their source of information is and I know how to search the FEC website. And when I search the FEC website, I see that the DNC made 17 payments to Crowdstrike in 2016.
https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transaction_period=2016&data_type=processed&committee_id=C00010603&recipient_name=crowdstrike&min_date=01%2F01%2F2015&max_date=12%2F31%2F2016

So this image DOES NOT list the total payments. https://i0.wp.com/disobedientmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Screen-Shot-2017-09-21-at-2.31.26-PM.png

Assange? You're kidding right? Anything you say about his evidence is hoping right now.

SoSpricyHotDog

FBI Paying Crowdstrike here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/national-security/article131308584.html

Other high-tech companies have also won business from the FBI, including CrowdStrike, a cyber forensics firm that received a one-year contract for $150,000 beginning in July 2015. That period included the time when Russian state hackers are believed to have penetrated the computers of the Democratic National Committee and tapped into the email of the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

The FBI’s role in the subsequent investigation came under fire after the DNC’s deputy communications director, Eric Walker, told the website BuzzFeed last month that FBI agents never came to examine the servers after the hacking, relying only on information from CrowdStrike, which was also under contract to the DNC.

As for your comment here:

Of course, I'm not wrong. I know what their source of information is and I know how to search the FEC website. And when I search the FEC website, I see that the DNC made 17 payments to Crowdstrike in 2016.

I was 100% incorrect. My apologies. I attempted to modify the URL string to change the search parameters and got the same exact results depicted in the .png - there were more payments after all. That definitely dampens the "Cherry-picked" transactions to your point.

Assange? You're kidding right? Anything you say about his evidence is hoping right now.

You really think Assange would offer the notion that he has concrete evidence that Russian DID NOT conduct the hack if he was lying? What would the end game be? He's got a lot more on the line then you or I do. It would be a terrible decision for him to flaunt that and do a bait and switch.

I have far more faith in a validity of Assange then the Media any day of the week.

  • Hoping? Yes.
  • Confident in his intel? Absolutely.
  • Confident in the administration to circumvent the powers that be to obtain said intel? Not so much.

Always a pleasure! Upvoat.

RweSure

Yeah, the FBI paid Crowdstrike in JULY 2015!!!

Other high-tech companies have also won business from the FBI, including CrowdStrike, a cyber forensics firm that received a one-year contract for $150,000 beginning in July 2015

This is months before anyone talked about the DNC being hacked. This is the point you are missing. This is a different contract. Don't you see that?

The FBI got their hands on the actual malware used in the Attack and were able to examine that. That's why getting their hands on the servers weren't a big deal.

SoSpricyHotDog

Time will tell my skeptical friend, time will tell. I've still yet to see any evidence, plus, under oath there has been nothing of admission that no evidence actually exists (well beyond 2015). There seems to be some serious gaps on both sides. With evidence promised on both sides.

I've got my money on the Russian hacks actually = Domestic leaks.

You clearly have your money riding on the Russian hacks = Russian hacks.

If I'm right, the erosion of the official narrative will be rapid and far reaching...

If you are right, that raises some serious, serious questions regarding Russia. If the other links you provided re: collusion/business dealings are then tied to the Russian hacks, we're entering into impeachment mode.

Just want to let you know that I enjoy these debates/discussions with you and I think you are far from a shill . You add a very healthy amount of skepticism to this channel and you're clearly a very intelligent individual on top of that.

Commoner

Timing is everything!

quantokitty

Should be easy for Crowdstrike to explain these payments, right?

Right! Can't wait to see this!

$5.00 -- Social Media Content $95,000 -- Pizza & walnut-covered pasta

Are_we__sure

Why do you mention the Awan Brothers? They have nothing to do with Crowdstrike.

SoSpricyHotDog

If these implications are true... and these large payments coincide with some kind of action (or inaction) related to Shawn Lucas and/or Seth Rich, that are made by the DNC. The payments were made before/after the resignation of Debbie Wasserman Schultz by the way:

  • 7/10/16 = Date of Seth Rich's death
  • 7/11/16 = $98k paid to Crowdstrike for "Maintenance" via the DNC
  • 7/24/16 = D.W. Schultz resignation (I'd like to remind you that she maintained Imran Awan's employment until the day after he was arrested - 7/24/17 & fired on 7/25/17)
  • 8/2/16 = Date of Shawn Lucas' death
  • 8/3/16 = $113k paid to Crowdstrike for "Maintenance" via the DNC

Multiple email threads from the DNC leak implicate "Imran" (but no Awan... nor is he CC'ed on any emails) just before this timeline opened up. Indicating that Awan had access to at least Pelosi's and DWS's hardware:

"On May 4, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Kroll, Amy wrote: Just spoke to Imran, call me whenever GB and I’ll update you, don’t delete anything yet."

"On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Kroll, Amy wrote: I do not have access to her ipad password, but Imran does. I’ll call Geoff now"

"Subject: Re: DWS MOVEMENTS - 5/12/2016 Pelosi is doing s closed door meeting. No staff or anyone allowed. Kaitlyn come to Rayburn room and get her iPad for Imran. Thanks."

Those are the most direct mentions of access/higher ups at the DNC working w/ Imran. Interesting that they don't just include him on the emails... no? If it's a security issue, then he clearly should not have had access to their hardware in the first place. Especially not if he is the only one on the chain that had their passwords!

So... with all of the circumstances above, you're going to tell me that Crowdstrike completed the investigation to "determine" that the DNC hacks were of a Russian origin. And never bothered to interface with, interview, or meet Imran Awan - the highest paid IT staffer on their payroll?

For putting so much faith into the Russian hacking narrative Crowdstrike was paid to weave, you clearly don't have much faith in their investigatory prowess if they didn't even have a discussion with Mr. Awan. He should have been one of the first people they met with.

zeroinstinct

So after your gish gallop, what is it you're saying?

Is it that the FBI and now special council investigation, tasked with finding out the extent of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, isn't talking to Awan, who is involved in a separate investigation?

SoSpricyHotDog

Hey! Welcome to Voat/PG...

Nope. That's not what I'm saying... I am simply painting a picture based on circumstance. The DNC leaks left a seemingly suspicious trail of bodies. Now we see payments made with chronological significant timestamps associated to some of these deaths. These payments were made to a specific IT firm, which was a key player in pushing the "Russian Hacking" narrative as a fact.

My goal is to link Awan, to Crowdstrike, for additional "links" between multiple ongoing/unfolding topics. Considering the DNC leaks have overlapping persons of interest with the PizzaGate/Podesta leaks, I think that finding that smoking gun will allow this to potentially get accelerated into the public eye. More light = Less secrets.

As for the Special Counsel Investigation - they seem to be almost 100% focused on the communications/business dealings between anyone in Trump's admin (pre/post becoming POTUS) and therefore, I see the current Russian investigation to be somewhat unrelated based on public knowledge of where that case is heading.

Now, if the Podesta Group is totally embroiled and the current Special Council ends up diving deeper into the Russian hacking claims/Crowdstrike/Assange's evidence against this narrative - this could* all wind up being directly related. AND, members of Trump's administration could still* be held accountable for their own deals/communications, completely separate from what we are focused on.

zeroinstinct

Doubt i'll have the comments to continue this conversation, so my reply in the form of several questions might be the end.

I read your post several times looking for the link between Awan, pizzagate, crowdstrike or the grand jury investigation and I didn't see anything. Does it hinge on the days Crowdstrike was paid by the DNC? What evidence do you have to link the Awan investigation to Crowdstrike? And what would be the relevance if you did find a link?

Are you attempting to discredit the Russian collusion investigation or linking this to pizzagate? I'm genuinely confused.

SoSpricyHotDog

Sorry, my motive to link the DNC/Awan scandal to the Podesta/Pizzagate leaks is based on 3 observations:

  • The DNC and Podesta leaks are intrinsically linked together, with key players in both leaks/cases (Clinton/Podesta/Obama to name a handful @ the top)
  • RussiaGate (with 0 evidence as of right now) is attempting to "explain away" the DNC leaks, while a coordinated media campaign was launched to discredit Pizzagate on the same timeline
  • Awan is a new vulnerability, particularly with the DNC and DWS... but other circumstantial evidence suggests that the Awan Network/Brotherhood may be involved in far more than just bank fraud and secret servers... the Awan rabbit hole may go much deeper than that. His number of properties/businesses/loans and diplomatic/political access may also* be allowing for significant movement of black market goods. Potentially including hot cars, drugs, weapons, art and [drum roll] human trafficking.

I'm desperately hoping that the Awan/DNC cases uncover more details. But, I have no hard evidence... shit. No one here has hard evidence of anything. If they did, they would be dead or on FoxNews right now.

zeroinstinct

This place is a thing because 4chan invented a code for awkward sentences in hacked Podesta emails. Don jr literally hands over emails in which he sets up a meeting for what he believes is dirt on Hillary(and lies about it afterwards) directly from the Kremlin and you think pizzagate has more evidence.

I don't get it, When I talk to pizzgaters, they aren't idiots, they're intelligent, they're good researchers and some I assume are delusional Trump cultists.

SoSpricyHotDog

This place is a thing because 4chan invented a code for awkward sentences in hacked Podesta emails

Ok... if that's all you think this is, I'm sorry. You should spend some more time on here and the original Reddit/Chans. Do you deny that pedophilia exists in the political system? Do you deny that there have been massive, historical, cover-ups specifically related to pedos? Do you not even begin to question links to the occult that were found in the leaks? Do you not even begin to question the language/strange sentences in the leaks?

Don jr literally hands over emails in which he sets up a meeting for what he believes is dirt on Hillary(and lies about it afterwards) directly from the Kremlin and you think pizzagate has more evidence.

Yes. I do. First off, Don Jr. literally hands over emails ... voluntarily. And guess what? If you can avoid CNN's reporting, you would find out that what was promised in the email/meeting invite was not illegal. Unless someone can assign a value to political information on one's opponent and twist the law to fit "illegal campaign contributions" somehow... and if that happened, I'm sure the lawyers would spend a bit more time on Clinton's end of the spectrum.

I don't get it, When I talk to pizzgaters, they aren't idiots, they're intelligent, they're good researchers and some I assume are delusional Trump cultists.

Thanks! I think the confusion is stemming from the MSM talking points... I'm not calling you gullible, because some of it is certainly true. Will Trump and/or his admin get in some serious trouble for Russian involvement? Communications? Business deals? Yeah... maybe. But the entire investigation has gone off the rails and is just rolling down a hill until it hits anything that can get anyone in trouble. The Russian hacks (DNC), The Russians hacked Podesta, the Russians "weaponized" the info, the Russians "made up" the emails, the Russians interfered with votes, the Russians hacked the voter systems, the Russians are working with Assange, the Russians have jeopardized our democracy... etc... allllllll of these narratives were spun by the media over time.

And now what? We're left w/ Don Jr. taking a meeting, some shady business dealings w/ Manafort (ironically implicating The Podesta Group and responsible for the unmasking scandal - which is far worse/more dangerous) and a handful of "Russian" Facebook accounts that even Mark Zuckerberg admitted "weren't that many"...

Seems a LOOOOONG way off from where the accusations began to me.

zeroinstinct

It's 10 days later but i'll happily respond to your reply

Don't give me names of websites, explain the evidence other than 4chan inventing a code for hacked email which started this bullshit. I do believe paedophilia is far too rampant in all walks of life. There has also been cover ups for all kinds of things but that isn't evidence for this, as i'm sure you understand.

i don't see links to the occult, neither do I see strange language, only the type of shorthand everyone uses with friends. It's funny because for all your denials you are admitting here it's all about the "strange languages" which the guys who gave you the grifter was happy to interpret.

As for Don jr he released the emals which the fake news already had and was about to release. But you're clearly a guy/gal who understands cryptology so i'll leave you this to translate.

3 June 2016 Rob Goldstone to Trump Jr Emin [Agalarov, a Russian pop star represented by Goldstone] just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras [a Moscow-based developer who tried to partner with Trump in a hotel project] this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary [Clinton] and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump – helped along by Aras and Emin.

What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

I can also send this info to your father via Rhona [presumably Rhona Graff, Trump’s longtime executive assistant], but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

Trump Jr to Goldstone Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

6 June 2016 Goldstone to Trump Jr Let me know when you are free to talk with Emin by phone about this Hillary info – you had mentioned early this week so wanted to try to schedule a time and day. Best to you and your family.

Trump Jr to Goldstone Rob could we speak now?

Goldstone to Trump Jr Let me track him down in Moscow. What number he could call?

Trump Jr to Goldstone My cell.

Goldstone to Trump Jr He’s on stage in Moscow but should be off within 20 minutes so I am sure can call.

Trump Jr to Goldstone Rob thanks for the help.

7 June 2016 Goldstone to Trump Jr Hope all is well. Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and the Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday. I believe you are aware of the meeting – and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you? I assume it would be at your office.

Trump Jr to Goldstone How about 3 at our offices? Thanks Rob appreciate you helping set it up.

Goldstone to Trump Jr Perfect ... I won’t sit in on the meeting, but will bring them at 3pm and introduce you etc. I will send the names of the two people meeting with you for security when I have them later today.

Trump Jr to Goldstone Great. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law [Jared Kushner] and me. 725 Fifth Ave 25th floor.

8 June 2016 Goldstone to Trump Jr Good morning. Would it be possible to move tomorrow meeting to 4pm as the Russian attorney is in court until 3 I was just informed.

Trump Jr to Goldstone Yes Rob I could do that unless they wanted to do 3 today instead ... just let me know and I’ll lock it in either way.

Pedersoli

This is amazing stuff! Good catch.

Commoner

Are you sure??

Dressage2

LOL 👏👏👏

quantokitty

So you think Imran was unaware of the payments? I was pretty sure everything the DNC did or didn't do went through him and his brother. If this story is true, then Imran would be able to support and validate it, no?

Dressage2

I would think so and I think that is what they are worried about. He might be singing like a canary to save his own ass.

quantokitty

I hope so! Come on Imran!

zeroinstinct

If you're talking about Manafort, I agree.

Commoner

Can we get 9 months of a special counsel with an unlimited budget and a dozen of Trump supporting lawyers to look at the DNC/ Imwan/ crowdstrike/podesta/Clinton/Ukraine/Russian/OBAMA/COMEY/BRENNER/CLAPPER to collude with anybody and everyone to do evil?