had same experience when i posted a direct link between JP and someone who worked within censorship fo FB. also posted a direct link of someone involved in hampstead who now works again with kids within celebrity endorsed company. I do not know where else I can post this information safely
I support this even if it is only for the politicians at this point. Just like marijuana once it's legal in one place it will spread and pretty soon prostitution will be legal nationwide. I also think that it will rebalance the gender dynamic In this country because women will no longer be able to hold that card over our head. Want to be a crazy bitch of a girlfriend fine I'll just get my sex over here and let you be crazy by yourself.
They were there to fuck each other in their shitty unwashed asses and cum in each others mouths. And to fuck young boys. Get fucking real. Ancient Rome was degenerate as hell.
The main reason I would be for this bill, is that it will bring the market out of the dark. Which would hopefully create protections for women forced into sex work. If you ever look at statistics for sex workers, you would realize that it is a dangerous line of work. Most people feel ok to prey on these women because it is a dark market and think they can't turn to law enforcement.
Just because these women were born with shitty fathers or from an impoverished country doesn't mean they aren't humans who could use help getting away from abusive men.
No, legalised and decriminalised sex buying does the opposite--it increases the demand for women who are used as orifices for men to ejaculate into. This means that sex trafficking increases. The only winners with decriminalisation and legalisation are the brothel owners and the pimps. It's proven to be the case in Germany, Netherlands and New Zealand.
It IS a dangerous line of work for women--and the danger comes from sex buyers. Sweden, Norway, Ireland, France, South Korea have acknowledged the imbalance of power in the prostitution transaction and have adopted the Nordic Model, which decriminalises the sellingof sex, but criminalises the buying of sex.
Good to know there are studies out there. Not sure I see how punishing the "Johns" helps control the pimps and brothels. Then again it cant be easy to deconstruct a black market of buyers/sellers/traffickers.
Strange idea, but perhaps a state run brothel that allows individuals to work in a safe environment would be a good system to test. Full time security to keep the pimps and such out.
Do you really think women want to have a bunch of old, fat, slimy, smelly men raping them every day? If you wouldn't like the idea of it, neither do women. There is no 'safe' environment for the women. Nevada is proof of that. Brothel owners exploit the women, expect them to have unsafe sex. German brothels offer 'menus' with options like 'unprotected anal sex'; 'gang bangs'; 'torturing woman while raping her'. These are registered brothels.
This
study shows that legalised prostitution increases trafficking. Why do you think every Soros-funded organisation advocates for the decriminalisation of sex buying? Prostitution is dangerous because of the johns. It's the johns who kill these women. The sex buyers are the problem.
Another nail in the Soros coffin. Dude has even tried warning people he is a sick fuck. Can we get a hitman or someone to just off him? Old age is taking too long.
Sin taxes are very common in my state. Its why cigarettes cost so much. But hopefully less people die from cancer and such. I haven't delved into the statistics.
You forget that these industries don't exist in a vacuum. Throughout pizzagate we have seen how when certain activities/industries picked up, child sex trafficking went up. Mother Teresa won't be running these sex work places. You don't think the sleezy owners of the prostitution industry won't ever recruit people below the legal limit? Recently there was a thread talking about how Playboy put a 10 year old in their magazine.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2163573
It is noble to have compassion for people, but in this situation, the more compassionate thing to do would be to get the women out of that industry and to educate women on how to avoid getting trapped in prostitution.
Guess the main thing we can agree on is protecting victimized women. And taking down criminal networks/removing funding from those who traffic and abuse them.
If it's 'consenting' what's the money for? If it were truly consensual, the woman wouldn't ask for the money.
In Germany, where the buying of sex is legal, women are asked to do very dangerous things. Women are kept pregnant because there's a market for 'gang banging pregnant women'. I have seen photos of a gang bang of a pregnant woman. Then her baby is taken from her and she is impregnated again for the pimp. There is very little 'consent' in prostitution.
Nevada, where prostituted women are basically locked up and are not allowed to leave the premises without a chaperone. These women are kept like cattle. Their conditions are abysmal. The brothel owners are profiteers exploiting vulnerable women. And no...German sex buyers are no different to American sex buyers...they're connected by their feelings of entitlement to women's bodies.
Described as "pussy penitentiaries" by one interviewee, the brothels tend to be in the middle of nowhere, out of sight of ordinary Nevadans. ... The brothel prostitutes often live in prison-like conditions, locked in or forbidden to leave. ... The rooms all have panic buttons, but many women told her that they had experienced violent and sexual abuse from the customers and pimps.?
"I saw a grated iron door in one brothel," says Farley. "The women's food was shoved through the door's steel bars between the kitchen and the brothel area. One pimp starved a woman he considered too fat. She made a friend outside the brothel who would throw food over the fence for her." Another pimp told Farley matter-of-factly that many of the women working for him had histories of sexual abuse and mental ill-health. "Most," he said, "have been sexually abused as kids. Some are bipolar, some are schizophrenic."
...prostitutes in Nevada have been legally required to be tested once a week for sexually transmitted diseases and monthly for HIV. Customers are not required to be tested. The women must present their medical clearance to the police station and be finger-printed, even though such registration is detrimental: if a woman is known to work as a prostitute, she may be refused health insurance, face discrimination in housing or future employment, or endure accusations of unfit motherhood. In addition, there are countries that will not permit registered prostitutes to settle, so their movement is severely restricted?
... some of the legal brothel owners "are worse than any pimp. They abuse and imprison women and are fully protected by the state."
The women are expected to live in the brothels and to work 12- to 14-hour shifts. Mary, a prostitute in a legal brothel for three years, outlines the restrictions. "You are not allowed to have your own car," she notes. "It's like [the pimp's] own little police state."
"Many were suffering what I'd describe as the traumatic effects of ongoing sexual assaults, and those that had been in the brothels for some time were institutionalised. That is, they were passive, timid, compliant, and deeply resigned."
"No one really enjoys getting sold," says Angie, who Farley interviewed. "It's like you sign a contract to be raped."
there are many more just search for "nevada prostitute" on youtube. we live in the modern era and these girls have smart phones and make videos. you can talk to them and ask them questions on their channel. you don't have to rely on a decade old biased article to find the truth.
in 2007 feminists were spreading lies and false narratives that have since been debunked.
I'm assuming you're a man--a progressive, leftie type who advocates for the 'rights' of women to prostitute themselves and be degraded in porn. You may think it's empowering for women to do this, but those who've survived the sex industry will tell you the truth--it's exploitative, abusive and violent.
Answer this question: would you be happy to have about 12 men a day give it to you up your back end every day? Well, if you wouldn't, neither do the millions of women who have to endure that to be able to survive, eat, look after their children, keep a roof over their heads.
They often try to say no. Prostitution is mostly a lot less consensual than people seem to understand. It's a dark dark world. Female prostitutes are likely victims of childhood sexual abuse. Human Trafficking, violence, very often involved. It is the norm.
"In the end times, the hearts of men will grow cold."
Break out the Bible and learn something new. This stuff is so pre-planned, it's hard to fathom. God knows these evildoers are out there, using their Free Will to do this to children, and what helps me sleep at night is knowing that one day there time on Earth will draw to a close, and they will have nothing else to look forward to except white-hot flames surrounding them, burning their flesh for eons.
This new bill is not about bringing women out of the dark. It is to intentional decriminalize sexual predators. Especially around child sex crimes or what they like to call "underage prostution.
First, make it "not a big deal" for people to engage in sex for money, this will cause the degeneracy to flow even further down from the elites into the general masses, so that these norms will eventually become part of the fabric of society, and a general acceptance of prostitution will open up people's minds to new forms of depravity, including lowering the age of consent lower and lower, until people are just openly accepting of "relationships" between old men and young kids. That's the end game here. It's a slow burn, and we may die before it's done, but that's their game.
Yep...you nailed it. What country and city is famous for decriminalizing pay for sex...Ampsterdam...Where is their a huge population of foreigners raping children...Amsterdam
I don't think this is linked to underage sex...yet. But I never understood arresting two willing parties in consensual relations. But I can see that it is not likely they are just being open minded, this is more likely a bridge to something else like you are suggesting.
I know, can you believe the gall of such a statement. Pulling the Wool is what I call it. You are so very right. We all deserve dignity no matter how we come into this world or where we are born.
Agreed. This probably isn't a bad thing, assuming it's implemented properly. The main reason prostitution is made illegal is so that only those with state sanction can be involved in the sex trade.
Whoever controls the sex trade can control the blackmail that comes along with it.The movie Sin City hints at this concept pretty strongly: the fight for the girls to control the sex trade themselves and so on.
Never thought of that aspect as a single young adult with nothing to really lose. Tell my mom or the cops for all I care, I would rather pay a whore than date a whore pretending to be a lady and waste time and money figuring it out. If sex is the only end goal of relationship, then it is bound to fail eventually no matter how much you fool yourself. However when browsing through shady hookup sites it seems there is a entity collecting emails and looking for married men.
Remember all the powerful people that got caught when Ashley Madison was allegedly hacked? I imagine there were some totally innocent people whose e-mails were submitted to such a site.
Yes i think he does, seeing as Cali recently passed/decriminalized 12yr and over street workers from prosecution,( still illegal for 'customers' to procure or pay). The bs behind this apparently, was to give underage workers more protection from exploitation by nor criminalizing them ??? like wtf... really, it really is all backwards, inverted, Satanic/Luciferian.. How about getting them off the street into safe houses with the appropriate social/individual help !!. Oh that's right , that costs lots of time, care and money. Easier to allow them to remain walking the street free from prosecution, but not from exploitation!!.
Hah, Yeah. To be exploited by the likes of them and their friends. Our lawmakers, folks, are not protecting those poor children. Anyone that allows their young and old to be exploited and suffer is not going to take care of you either. Be careful. You are next.
Well David's Wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Grosso
and it says he sat on the Board for Planned Parenthood and went to Georgetown Law Center and also went to El Salvador and Honduras to volunteer with the Refugees. That's just for starters.
Anti-Pedo Angela on Twitter: "Feels like "they" set these kind of bills up to protect THEMSELVES in case some cans of worms get opened. #Pedogate t.co/A8oJ9N6oSh"
▼ Benkitchen105
@jem777 where is your post about la attacks that you reposted from MF
▼ Jem777
Millenial Falcon will not allow them to be posted. He deleted all posts with significant evidence.
▼ PedoStomper
That's because he's a buttfucking, cum-gargling pedoshit.
▼ Benkitchen105
had same experience when i posted a direct link between JP and someone who worked within censorship fo FB. also posted a direct link of someone involved in hampstead who now works again with kids within celebrity endorsed company. I do not know where else I can post this information safely
▼ billyvvinz
Everything in DC is legal. Only we are allowed in DC.
▼ Piscina
Yeah, this is 2 make sure rich, white men can keep buying/paying for/abusing vulnerable women whose only option to survive are to sell their bodies.
▼ DeathTwoMasons
Coo, i'll get all my hookers from DC in the future.
▼ unbiased_researcher
I kinda think prostitution should be legal in any place except DC. The timing of this bill alone should raise red flags. Shut it down.
▼ SynapticRevolt
Muh, so call ICE from a throwaway phone and remain anonymous
▼ The_1
we have slipped too far to presume this has any benefit to society on the greater whole.
there is nothing of value here, and this does not help victims.
the failure of each lawyer or judge does equate to a failure of our laws.
▼ thescribeofthecreed0
Hypocrites!!!
▼ ToFat2Fish
I support this even if it is only for the politicians at this point. Just like marijuana once it's legal in one place it will spread and pretty soon prostitution will be legal nationwide. I also think that it will rebalance the gender dynamic In this country because women will no longer be able to hold that card over our head. Want to be a crazy bitch of a girlfriend fine I'll just get my sex over here and let you be crazy by yourself.
▼ BlueDrache
The bath-house bill ... ooh, joy, degeneracy in the open. Just like Rome and their bath-houses.
▼ DeathTwoMasons
Rome's bath houses were not degenrate, they were cleansing/relaxing/social meeting places.
▼ PedoStomper
They were there to fuck each other in their shitty unwashed asses and cum in each others mouths. And to fuck young boys. Get fucking real. Ancient Rome was degenerate as hell.
▼ Fuzzycrumpkin
Sex work shouldn't be illegal. It is like prohibition, you only make it seedy. Plus you get alcohol that turns you blind.
▼ mooteensy
Oh that's not ridiculous or anything.
▼ 2impendingdoom
FFS how low can they go
▼ n8d
The main reason I would be for this bill, is that it will bring the market out of the dark. Which would hopefully create protections for women forced into sex work. If you ever look at statistics for sex workers, you would realize that it is a dangerous line of work. Most people feel ok to prey on these women because it is a dark market and think they can't turn to law enforcement.
Just because these women were born with shitty fathers or from an impoverished country doesn't mean they aren't humans who could use help getting away from abusive men.
▼ Piscina
No, legalised and decriminalised sex buying does the opposite--it increases the demand for women who are used as orifices for men to ejaculate into. This means that sex trafficking increases. The only winners with decriminalisation and legalisation are the brothel owners and the pimps. It's proven to be the case in Germany, Netherlands and New Zealand.
It IS a dangerous line of work for women--and the danger comes from sex buyers. Sweden, Norway, Ireland, France, South Korea have acknowledged the imbalance of power in the prostitution transaction and have adopted the Nordic Model, which decriminalises the sellingof sex, but criminalises the buying of sex.
▼ n8d
Good to know there are studies out there. Not sure I see how punishing the "Johns" helps control the pimps and brothels. Then again it cant be easy to deconstruct a black market of buyers/sellers/traffickers.
Strange idea, but perhaps a state run brothel that allows individuals to work in a safe environment would be a good system to test. Full time security to keep the pimps and such out.
▼ Piscina
Do you really think women want to have a bunch of old, fat, slimy, smelly men raping them every day? If you wouldn't like the idea of it, neither do women. There is no 'safe' environment for the women. Nevada is proof of that. Brothel owners exploit the women, expect them to have unsafe sex. German brothels offer 'menus' with options like 'unprotected anal sex'; 'gang bangs'; 'torturing woman while raping her'. These are registered brothels. This study shows that legalised prostitution increases trafficking. Why do you think every Soros-funded organisation advocates for the decriminalisation of sex buying? Prostitution is dangerous because of the johns. It's the johns who kill these women. The sex buyers are the problem.
▼ n8d
Another nail in the Soros coffin. Dude has even tried warning people he is a sick fuck. Can we get a hitman or someone to just off him? Old age is taking too long.
▼ DeathTwoMasons
They will also create another tax base.
▼ n8d
Sin taxes are very common in my state. Its why cigarettes cost so much. But hopefully less people die from cancer and such. I haven't delved into the statistics.
▼ IShallNotFear
You forget that these industries don't exist in a vacuum. Throughout pizzagate we have seen how when certain activities/industries picked up, child sex trafficking went up. Mother Teresa won't be running these sex work places. You don't think the sleezy owners of the prostitution industry won't ever recruit people below the legal limit? Recently there was a thread talking about how Playboy put a 10 year old in their magazine. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2163573 It is noble to have compassion for people, but in this situation, the more compassionate thing to do would be to get the women out of that industry and to educate women on how to avoid getting trapped in prostitution.
▼ 3141592653
They are often coerced or kidnapped into it. The most vulnerable are sought after to exploit
▼ n8d
Guess the main thing we can agree on is protecting victimized women. And taking down criminal networks/removing funding from those who traffic and abuse them.
▼ Narcissism
Agree, if its only about adults.
▼ 2impendingdoom
Is the law for consenting adults or sex with children? I thought it was to legalize pedo-sex.
I could care less what consenting adults do with eachother so long as I don't have to see it.
▼ Piscina
If it's 'consenting' what's the money for? If it were truly consensual, the woman wouldn't ask for the money.
In Germany, where the buying of sex is legal, women are asked to do very dangerous things. Women are kept pregnant because there's a market for 'gang banging pregnant women'. I have seen photos of a gang bang of a pregnant woman. Then her baby is taken from her and she is impregnated again for the pimp. There is very little 'consent' in prostitution.
▼ 3141592653
You are totally right
▼ greycloud
this is in the US. use nevada as your base of comparison, since it is also in the US. german culture is different than US culture.
▼ Piscina
Nevada, where prostituted women are basically locked up and are not allowed to leave the premises without a chaperone. These women are kept like cattle. Their conditions are abysmal. The brothel owners are profiteers exploiting vulnerable women. And no...German sex buyers are no different to American sex buyers...they're connected by their feelings of entitlement to women's bodies.
▼ 3141592653
Totally
▼ greycloud
care to link a source to your claim? the prostitutes that i have seen in nevada were free to leave and were payed handsomely.
▼ Piscina
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/sep/07/usa.gender
▼ greycloud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5-MyVEnbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwZFw4MNIWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVdvTbrhY5g
there are many more just search for "nevada prostitute" on youtube. we live in the modern era and these girls have smart phones and make videos. you can talk to them and ask them questions on their channel. you don't have to rely on a decade old biased article to find the truth.
in 2007 feminists were spreading lies and false narratives that have since been debunked.
▼ Piscina
I'm assuming you're a man--a progressive, leftie type who advocates for the 'rights' of women to prostitute themselves and be degraded in porn. You may think it's empowering for women to do this, but those who've survived the sex industry will tell you the truth--it's exploitative, abusive and violent.
Answer this question: would you be happy to have about 12 men a day give it to you up your back end every day? Well, if you wouldn't, neither do the millions of women who have to endure that to be able to survive, eat, look after their children, keep a roof over their heads.
▼ 2impendingdoom
that sounds horrible and the women should say no to these transactions. wtf is wrong with these men?
▼ 3141592653
They often try to say no. Prostitution is mostly a lot less consensual than people seem to understand. It's a dark dark world. Female prostitutes are likely victims of childhood sexual abuse. Human Trafficking, violence, very often involved. It is the norm.
▼ PedoStomper
"In the end times, the hearts of men will grow cold."
Break out the Bible and learn something new. This stuff is so pre-planned, it's hard to fathom. God knows these evildoers are out there, using their Free Will to do this to children, and what helps me sleep at night is knowing that one day there time on Earth will draw to a close, and they will have nothing else to look forward to except white-hot flames surrounding them, burning their flesh for eons.
▼ DeathTwoMasons
Agreed,
▼ Jem777
This new bill is not about bringing women out of the dark. It is to intentional decriminalize sexual predators. Especially around child sex crimes or what they like to call "underage prostution.
▼ PedoStomper
First, make it "not a big deal" for people to engage in sex for money, this will cause the degeneracy to flow even further down from the elites into the general masses, so that these norms will eventually become part of the fabric of society, and a general acceptance of prostitution will open up people's minds to new forms of depravity, including lowering the age of consent lower and lower, until people are just openly accepting of "relationships" between old men and young kids. That's the end game here. It's a slow burn, and we may die before it's done, but that's their game.
▼ Jem777
Yep...you nailed it. What country and city is famous for decriminalizing pay for sex...Ampsterdam...Where is their a huge population of foreigners raping children...Amsterdam
▼ DeathTwoMasons
I don't think this is linked to underage sex...yet. But I never understood arresting two willing parties in consensual relations. But I can see that it is not likely they are just being open minded, this is more likely a bridge to something else like you are suggesting.
▼ n8d
If that is the case this is completely gross and those who brought it up should be seriously vetted.
▼ carmencita
I know, can you believe the gall of such a statement. Pulling the Wool is what I call it. You are so very right. We all deserve dignity no matter how we come into this world or where we are born.
▼ HighLevelInsider
Agreed. This probably isn't a bad thing, assuming it's implemented properly. The main reason prostitution is made illegal is so that only those with state sanction can be involved in the sex trade.
Whoever controls the sex trade can control the blackmail that comes along with it.The movie Sin City hints at this concept pretty strongly: the fight for the girls to control the sex trade themselves and so on.
▼ n8d
Never thought of that aspect as a single young adult with nothing to really lose. Tell my mom or the cops for all I care, I would rather pay a whore than date a whore pretending to be a lady and waste time and money figuring it out. If sex is the only end goal of relationship, then it is bound to fail eventually no matter how much you fool yourself. However when browsing through shady hookup sites it seems there is a entity collecting emails and looking for married men.
▼ HighLevelInsider
Remember all the powerful people that got caught when Ashley Madison was allegedly hacked? I imagine there were some totally innocent people whose e-mails were submitted to such a site.
▼ carmencita
UPVOAT Thanks for bring this to our attention. What a Joke. Does he actually think he is going to get away with this?
▼ DeathTwoMasons
They eat babies, torture rape murder children. I think this is not so bold.
▼ dassaer
Yes i think he does, seeing as Cali recently passed/decriminalized 12yr and over street workers from prosecution,( still illegal for 'customers' to procure or pay). The bs behind this apparently, was to give underage workers more protection from exploitation by nor criminalizing them ??? like wtf... really, it really is all backwards, inverted, Satanic/Luciferian.. How about getting them off the street into safe houses with the appropriate social/individual help !!. Oh that's right , that costs lots of time, care and money. Easier to allow them to remain walking the street free from prosecution, but not from exploitation!!.
▼ carmencita
Hah, Yeah. To be exploited by the likes of them and their friends. Our lawmakers, folks, are not protecting those poor children. Anyone that allows their young and old to be exploited and suffer is not going to take care of you either. Be careful. You are next.
▼ carmencita
Well David's Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Grosso and it says he sat on the Board for Planned Parenthood and went to Georgetown Law Center and also went to El Salvador and Honduras to volunteer with the Refugees. That's just for starters.
▼ green_man
Considering how badly those cocksuckers in DC fuck most Americans in their wallets they should probably pass it nationally.
▼ derram
https://tweetsave.com/pgangie1/status/916081543608717312 :
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▼ Jem777
This is the Congressman pushing this bill.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sharpedge42/status/916064152287895557/photo/1
▼ GuannaRue
https://imgur.com/a/pswrO