Can't get into the club unless you are willing to compromise your state of mind. If you try to leave there are tried and true ways to stop you. In the end it's individual belief to believe or not. They slip up over a large enough timeline to see the cracks. It's club logic. Everyone plays the game. Politicians, Police, Antifa, BLM, Neo-whatever. All of them. You cant fight them with morals of love and peace. I know the Satanists, Luciferians, Temple of Set, and whatever Alister Crowley's sect call themselves believe. "Do what thy wilt." Not all are involved, but the ones who are not in the secret club will cover or deny for the few that are in the circle. Log and document is the best we can hope for until more of us wake up. We are too busy working a nine to five to do anything for the most part. Family's to support, children to feed. The system is set up this way. Mores the pity. They will use anything to their benefit. Our petty differences and loathing of those who think differently allow them to move in the shadows. Keep an open mind to everything, It's a false seance of security to believe everyone thinks like you. They will use every slip to their advantage. We are all the same in the end.

This explains the hidden reason

http://tracytwyman.com/killing-god-to-become-god-david-bowie-stanley-kubrick-arthur-c-clarke-and-hillary-clintons-emails-decoded/

I'm going to argue here for a sensible middle ground. Yes, you are correct that people of faith, people with spiritual values, are more likely to take this problem seriously. I think that's a statistical reality, just as it is a statistical reality that "blue" states are somewhat less church-going and less likely to volunteer or give to charity than "red" states are.

But I want to urge you -- all of you, not just OP -- to consider how your spiritual beliefs make you vulnerable to manipulation. Because they do. Back in the 1980s, the pedos exploited this vulnerability by playing up the Satanic abuse angle, rather than playing it down. The accusations quickly escalated far beyond what the evidence supported, dragging literally hundreds of daycares and kindergartens into prolonged scandals that led nowhere. The idea of Satanic abuse got discredited, which was a victory for them. And it got discredited in large part because of the excesses of sincerely spiritual people, who weren't good investigators, who didn't have anyone to impose rules of evidence, and who thereby got way ahead of the actual facts.

I agree that Voat's structure has some disadvantages. But this little community has developed some strong BS filters, and has stayed focused on real facts. (By that I mean, facts that will also qualify as facts to an atheist.) There won't be a repeat of the problems of the 1980s here.

I have something I am working on that will help address the scattered and repetitive way that subjects are addressed. Hopefully I can post it tomorrow. In the meantime, I would just say: Don't let v/pizzagate get divided along atheist/religious lines. We all need one another.

Logically speaking this is a really dumb argument. How can you possibly equate some one's believe in God with their belief in pedophiles who are actually tangible yet heinous on the Earth?

Moreover, if God is so powerful how does God allow such evil to exist and cause so much harm? It would seem that God wants pedophiles to live and commit terrible crimes.

Why is the the existence of pedophiles now atheist and agnostic peoples' problem? Why are atheists expected to compromise their Satanic operations?

Discussion of personal religious beliefs and accusing pedos of belonging to 1 or more religious/ethnic groups really turns off potential helpers who could be adding to and disseminating info gathered. MSM loves to falsely rant on of how pedo accusers are anti-Semitic and/or obsessed with "Satanic Panic." That said, I've been repeatedly told Christian Conservative Secret Service Agents absolutely hated and often refused to accompany Hillary to certain private parties in Hollywood and also in Chicago.

There's more than enough evidence available online (see numerous videos on the subject on YouTube) of what's going on by witnesses and former participants. Issue is LE fears serious retaliation and is often compromised. Word coming down to all levels of LE, from the very top on down, "Hands off anything related to anyone or anything re "The Old Religion" if you don't want to get brutally killed.

Solution? Petition to ask Pres Trump to appoint National Guard to interfere? He should go for it as there's direct Deep State connections. You do know they just tried to assassinate him in Vegas on 10/1, right? Word is a former MKUltra victim was able to warn him to change his plans ASAP and to visit Puerto Rico Sat night instead.

POTUS met with those that $$$$ benefited from 10/1 attack in Vegas, after 10/1 at the Luxor. Shots were still fired and an unknown VIP on the tarmac of "Janet" en route to Area 51 was hit. At least Vegas wasn't leveled with 10's of thousands killed as originally planned.

Submit to God. Resist the devil, and he must flee.
Order of operations: 1. Submit to God 2. Resist the devil. 3. He must flee. Whether you believe in spiritual beings or just the concepts of good and evil, the steps remain the same: first, submit to the Good. Love, truth, courage. Second, resist evil- harming others unless absolutely necessary, deceiving and lying. Live in the Light. And then evil must flee. Look at the lights being shined right now in Hollywood. As Jesus said, "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free." By the way, one of my friends who experienced these abuses in Australia said they did not have a religious component. Australia has traditionally been less religious than America. Yet the abusers still committed the same heinous actions- rapes, torture, killing animals and children. I think the religious aspect is invoked in countries where it will be perceived as powerful because of the culture.

Can we have a dialogue about that here? the Weinstein “bone” that has been thrown has accomplished what they wanted: a redirection away from the organised operations that are kidnapping, raping, torturing and murdering children in service to what most people know as satan. (Please don't forget the spirit cooking crap)

This is complete disinformation. Weinstein is part of The Cabal. It's not pulling me away from Comet Pizza, JA, Pedosta, or The Cannibal Queen. It's ridiculous to think so. But this thread did remind me of a tweet I saw. Now if I can only find it.

by playing by their rules?

Alinsky’s 12 Rules:

1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.“ Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.

2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.“ It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.

3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.“ Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.“ If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.“ There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.“ They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.

7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.“ Don’t become old news.

8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.“ Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.“ Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

10. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.“ Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

11. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.“ Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

12. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.“ Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

atheist and agnostic just put aside their philosophical arguments long enough to realise that something about PG is real enough for them to repeat these behaviours for THOUSANDS of years.

Ok this is the second time in a couple days that someone has implied that not being religious prevents one from believing p-gate is real. When did that become an argument? I don't see what one has to do with the other.

Is the argument here, if you aren't religious it's time to get religious because whatever god is the only way to stop this?

I believe and know that they believe in what they are doing, they believe they are doing Satan's bidding, but that doesn't mean the only way to overcome it is to believe in it, or the other side of the coin myself.

If you try to bring religion into it on a universal level, this effort to stop it will continue to fail. It really needs to be a broader "us vs them" than "theists vs non."

Not to digress, but that's why being on voat everyday gives me little hope in us succeeding. We absolutely can not stop the powers that be unless we all band together, but there are people here, that they think it's white vs everyone else. How the fuck will that succeed? Talking out both sides of their mouths, "Oh you've been brainwashed, goyim!" while buying directly into the division tactics that have thrust upon us to assure we'll never unite to overcome the evil reigning the world.

That's what I also think of, "you can't beat Satanist unless you believe in God..." That's personal. If that is your path to believing it and trying to overcome it, good for you. And my all means, speak your mind. But if you try to hard to change minds or say it's the only path... We will continue to fail in this effort.

I am so glad you posted this. I posted a while back about this and it didn't get the attention that it needs. I've listened to several videos Timothy Holmseth conversations he recorded and of the threats he's received.

I highly recommend that people watch this video and check out his website. This is his website. http://www.writeintoaction.com/ Henhas a YouTube channel too. Now he's a targeted individual. He's always harassed. He said Haleigh Cummings could still be alive.

Admitted Satanist's are connected to this. One is Casey Anthony's former fiancé's father!

Also, I must say there is always something missing when we research a case, there is always a hanging thread that we just can't unravel. Whenever one of us finds something they categorize it as a Potential Lead or Clue. Who keeps track of this stuff. We should add it all together and see what we come up with. Also, if we do have some really important clues that add up and we have serious evidence, who do we take this to that we can trust (and I do not mean any of the YT Idols). I am really interested in hearing everyone's thoughts.

4_InquiringMinds @2impendingdoom I am going to say that I believe they want bad deeds to take over this world. Bad deeds create very bad vibes and the more evil the more vibes, etc. A vicious cycle. We must pass around good deeds and good words and smiles. The more good deeds we do the more good we will create. Think about it. All the fake good deeds they pretend to create and tout on TV, they are fake and creating bad more bad vibes that I believe pass through the air and the world. They want us to create bad by creating fear and hatred of each other. We must turn things around by doing good deeds especially for those they want us to hate. If someone comes up with another idea that is fine, but we can still continue to create good vibes.

I have thought a lot about this. How does anyone stop this? No way to monitor everyone, every min of everyday. There is so many different reasons these sick fucks do this Evil shit. So trying to isolate this to therapy will not work. I don't believe someone is "born" a Pedo! So many people have kids, that have no intention in protecting them from anything! You can't make someone love! Just like with other disgusting addictions, or habits, how in the hell do you stop it! We can take the $$ away, yet you still have "their power" you don't need $$ to hurt someone!
So, you have to stop "The Power" You have to stop each individual's ability to have "power" over someone else. Mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, reasoning, survival, educational, developmental, reproductive, fear, hope, happiness, love, hate, empathy, guilt, consciousness, conscience, pain, joy, trust, gut feelings, instinct, response, reaction and soul. Only death takes away mortal power!

James Tabok Director 30+ Accusations Today Or Yesterday Not sure if any are child actors or teens

@carmencita , @srayzie , @migratorypatterns , @wisconsiniscorrupt I'd really appreciate your thoughts.

** look at this, I know it's 4chan but hey it is interesting** http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/146298683

I will speak my mind and hope i am taken serious. That atheism and agnosticism that prevents us from aknowledging them is just another of the traps they have placed on society to keep us from seeing the truth.

And what is the truth? The truth is that God almighty exists and there are demons from the otherside that need/want humanity to fall. This exactly what these people stand up for. The fall of humanity and the coming of an antichrist. The sooner you believe it the better your understanding will be of all that is going on.