SecureYourSeats

How would you justify accusing this text in Ezekial of promoting "young brides". If it went in 1 giant leap from newborn (still bloody from birth), to puberty. With a leap like that why would you think that "later" meant a just a couple years later? In any reasonable reading, "later" would imply another leap in time, which would more closely resemble a mid- to late marriageability. Like 24-28.

madmama

I MET MY HUSBAND WHEN I WAS 17 AND HE WAS 31. IT LASTED 20 YEARS AND WE HAD 2 CHILDREN. I ALWAYS WAS AND STILL AM THE ADULT BETWEEN THE TWO OF US.

Shizy

Why would you waste your time posing this crap? Just a thinly veiled pro sex with minors piece. You're not fooling anyone

Jobew1

Talkin the bible n islams view on marriage but fail to discuss whats in the talmud on it and pedo acts? Thats where the really scary stuff is

PedoStomper

Yes exactly. The Talmud specifically states that Rabbis can have sex with three year olds and it is "nothing."

Jobew1

Yup there are other troubling partz including i think marriage at 9

migratorypatterns

A shill post to "NORMALIZE" pedophilia and smear Roy Moore at the same time.

Shillaxe

The average lifespan in the 1700's was 45 yrs old, much less in "biblical" times so it was imperative to breed at a younger age , not anymore.

Shizy

Actually in the Old Testament it was not uncommon for people to live to be 100 or more. It wasn't until the days of Noah that God shortened the human lifespan

Kacey

None the less the Bible is supposed to be the word of God and God is supposed to be omniscient so the Bible quotes are supposed to be good for all people at all times. I am just reporting facts about things in the Bible and the history of marriage in Christianity that mirrors that in Muslim nations. Christians just seem to have come out of the dark ages a bit sooner than Muslims and are apparently better at forgetting the parts of their Bible that no longer fit the more enlightened mores of our times.
Because girls are now more liberated, a deferred marriage gives them time to use some life experience to choose a mate and to gain skills so they can enter the work world.

I notice that no response says my Bible quote is wrong or the facts I show about early marriage a century or more ago are wrong. Christians, Muslims, hunter-gatherers all took wives when they reached puberty. The attraction to those girls who have reached puberty is not unnatural and is different than the attraction to those before puberty. It was the norm for most of human history.

To address the liberation of women it is now necessary to have laws preventing marriage until a girl can gain enough skills to support herself if need be and to have enough to wisdom to chose her own mate. It is also therefore necessary to call sex with a girl not of legal marriage age rape. We absolutely need to insure that girls now can act upon the liberation that modern times have given them to be more than a house slave and child bearer. It seems we need more than one term to describe illicit sexual behavior. If an 18 year old has sex with his 15 year old girlfriend is he really the same type of person as someone who violates babies and infants?

I detest Roy Moore. But it is perfectly rational that a man in Alabama in the 70's might want to date teen age girls without thinking he was doing anything wrong and without being a pedophile. Much as I would like to see him brought down, I don't want anyone labeled a pedophile who is not. I do think he should be shamed by this revelation that he went to far in at least one instance and should forever step out of politics. He should make a public apology and some restitution to the woman if the claim is true. But without further claims he should not be called a pedophile

Shillaxe

Well if the bible says its "ok" for a grown man (not speaking of roy) to fuck a 13 yr old, well 👍, apologist.

Shillaxe

At least he "got the parents (read corrupted parents) permission of ALL the teens he dated"

organic1

Yeah, I thought you were here to defend. Your recent past few comments on other threads made this apparent. You said your piece, now move along. You aren't going to be successful in changing any minds here.

Kacey

I'm here to try bring some truth into the situation. I can defend Roy Moore on pedophile charges while thinking the claims are probably true because I think the facts I present make a good case that this behavior in this time and place was not pedophilia. That said I think he is a total fraud and should step down. Sorry other people can't make such distinctions. I know I can't change minds that are immune to facts about history and even their own religion. I just think someone should point out those facts anyway.

organic1

We aren't immune to facts. We just aren't buying what you're selling. So, now get into your time machine and go back to Biblical times if you feel it was so much better. Buh-bye!

Shizy

Did you know that one of the women who is accusing Moore is......wait for it..... the obamas well paid housekeeper! Can't make this shit up!

argosciv

I'm heading back to bed in a moment, but, I'll be sure to come back to this and respond in depth.

janet58

No politician should be able to "move on" if he sexually assaulted a 14-year-old.