Thegreatestname

Is she setting the media up? It's obvious that woman is lying at least from everything I have seen so far.

Are_we__sure

Bopper, c'mon. Just c'mon.

I think this speaks to Trump's character in a willingness to acknowledge that not all that glitters is gold (Trump himself professes to be Christian nowadays).

Also, c'mon.

Her dad, POTUS, declined to comment on Moore, but apparently Trump is showing no favoritism in this matter (child predators).

Are you praising him for not showing favoritism to child predators? Declining comment is on Roy Moore is cowardice.

Edit: Admittedly, in the days of yore, Trump himself would be disqualified for office of civil magistrate by godly peers, for past transgressions.

When would these days of yore be? Sounds pre-1776 to me.

bopper

Yes, days of yore, 1600's, when pure theology was abundant and many walked the walk. Great Reformation. Christianity today is mostly a sham. I could go on but won't. (Besides, I'm reasoning w/ a "lone-nutter" as we call them in JFK assassination circles. There is no excuse for that, if you can't get past that how will you progress in other matters?)

You should at least watch "A President Betrayed," it's more down your alley, well done w/ Morgan Freeman narrating, makes the conspiracy point w/out spelling it out etc.

You have a very narrow and black and white view of Trump, he's not one to be pigeonholed.

Shizy

Shill on you shilly little shill shiller!

GreenDell144

Mannassah was forgiven, but he condemmed the nation and his own children because of his evil. 2Kings 21:16 "Ma·nasʹseh also shed innocent blood in very great quantity until he had filled Jerusalem from one end to the other, besides his sin of causing Judah to sin by doing what was bad in the eyes of Jehovah." So there will definitely be consequences, but apologizing and turning back from an evil path before it is too late is preferable to the slternative, imho. I appreciate uour Bible reference, OP.

bopper

Yes, Manasseh was an extraordinary exception, to exemplify the grace of God, like the thief on the cross. Great comment, glad you chimed in. Yes, the consequences will still be felt.

"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." That includes those who have, or will yet find, forgiveness. In that case it is chastening, filial, but for the wicked and repentant, it is punishment and judgement.

new4now

I believe Hillary has been sitting on this plus more since she entered the White House

One of the first things she did was hit the FBI for all the dirt on everyone, Repub and Dem alike

More with be coming out on those Repubs up for election to the house

TotusTuusMariae

She is not paying attention. The year book is a forgery, The body language of said 'victim' says she is lying, & finally, look ma NO TEARS just a lotta kabuki. O, ... & remember all the women who were molested by DJT who crawled out of the woodwork ... & then disappeared w/no cigar. Speaking of cigars, maybe Ivanka might wanna go ask Monica. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-adHprM7Fy5k/WgoKMeJircI/AAAAAAAATjs/SiBLo5wVOD88RFtDU-kUsyyYjEYQk7AygCLcBGAs/s640/Screenshot%2Bfrom%2B2017-11-13%2B16%253A09%253A52.png

Vindicator

Excellent analysis thread on this by Thomas Wictor: https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/930875613220499456

Gbuggers

I believe there is a special place for those that know about it and do nothing to help the innocent and if your the Msm and you knowinly assisted in the covering it up. Lets just say i wouldnt want to be you come judgement day. Your screwed as bad as the ones committing the crimes and you better start praying now.

bopper

"The concept of accomplice liability means an accomplice faces the same degree of guilt and punishment as the individual who committed the crime."

Gbuggers

Thats a good thing so would thag include the ones who knew and did nothing and those who knew and helped cover it up. The ones who knew it was not fake but told people it was?

bopper

Yes, it should, how it would all play out tho I don't know. Let's hope it does "play out."

Gbuggers

Yes hope and pray everyday for the children to be saved and the children we are to late to save that they are in a better place.

srayzie

Damn you Bopper. Your vile post has triggered some snowflakes around here 😂

The way Trump handles this situation, he's gonna be damned either way. I think the smartest thing for him to do is to focus on our country.

bopper

I think he should let his hair go gray. Sad!

srayzie

Sad! 😂 We've got a YUGE problem. That I can tell you.

migratorypatterns

Extremely misleading title. Extremely vile post.

If you can't even make your point without lying, then you shouldn't be posting.

End of story.

DownVoat for you.

ESOTERICshade

I despise Hillary but i'm not Trump Tarded either. What is your beef? His headline is accurate. I think a lot of your posts are worthy of slide posts but I don't call you vile.

srayzie

I need to lay off the hopium. 🙄

migratorypatterns

Hey fuck you! I have no idea who the fuck you think you are, but you're not boss here! IVANKA TRUMP DID NOT SAY THAT ABOUT ROY MOORE!!!!!

And since you're the one that goes around reporting everything, I can only think that you're his fucking buddy shill. Well, you know what? You're both blocked, you shill!!!

Shizy

Wow! You're an extremely angry and rigid person. So smug in your responses 99%of the time, unreasonable and unwilling to see anyone else's point of view. Not good qualities in a researcher! Sad!

Factfinder2

Here's the AP article from which the quote was taken, with context. It is not known whether the AP writer represented the context accurately in the article: https://archive.is/WmyrM#selection-1337.48-1337.52

From the article:

"She happened to be exiting meetings at the Capitol when word first broke that Roy Moore, the Republican candidate for Senate in Alabama, had been accused of sexual misconduct with teenage girls during the late 1970s, when he was in his 30s. She brushed off reporters’ shouted questions, saying, “Guys, I’ve been here all day.”

Trump weighed in on the scandal to the AP, saying: “There’s a special place in hell for people who prey on children. I’ve yet to see a valid explanation and I have no reason to doubt the victims’ accounts.” She did not call for Moore to exit the race."

migratorypatterns

That article is so flawed. I don't understand why you're not seeing my point. It reads like it's written by a three-year-old with a crayon.

I'll try to explain this again, but that's it. If you or someone else doesn't get it, I doubt I'll be able to do any better than what I'm doing now. Here goes.

The article begins with:

BAYVILLE, N.J. (AP) — Yes, it turns out, there is something that chafes at the unflappable Ivanka Trump.

It also states that it was published 38 minutes ago which would have been yesterday, Nov 15th. It rambles on about trashing this tax plan (can you tell this is more an editorial than actual objectively sourced article?), and then it veers into crazy time.

Trump also was thrown into the chaos last week. She happened to be exiting meetings at the Capitol when word first broke that Roy Moore, the Republican candidate for Senate in Alabama, had been accused of sexual misconduct with teenage girls during the late 1970s, when he was in his 30s. She brushed off reporters’ shouted questions, saying, “Guys, I’ve been here all day.”

Okay, the patchwork of a paragraph starts out with stating "LAST WEEK". That the Roy Moore story broke LAST WEEK and that LAST WEEK she was "thrown in the chaos". So LAST WEEK, she brushed off questions by stating, "I've been here all day."

Obviously English is not this reporter's first language since it's never explained how Ivanka was thrown into "the chaos"? It can't be because reporters asked a question? That doesn't seem to chaotic to me so if readers didn't understand before, they should now. This is propaganda and a hit piece since there is nothing said that would justify using that terminology. As if that isn't bad enough, it gets worse. Next paragraph:

Trump weighed in on the scandal to the AP, saying: “There’s a special place in hell for people who prey on children. I’ve yet to see a valid explanation and I have no reason to doubt the victims’ accounts.” She did not call for Moore to exit the race.

Notice that there's no time frame or context given for the "weighing in". Does the reporter mean that Ivanka didn't last week, and that she was yesterday because that's not what it says. I guess you're just supposed to ASSUME this happened? Or is the reporter blurring past with present? It's hard for me to assume when the reporter was not being concise in terms of when events happened and statements were made. This could have all been avoided by the reporter writing, "TONIGHT Trump weighed on the scandal ..." TONIGHT. Was it that night? In the present? Or were lines and days blurred? Was this statement made last week when the story broke? Or some other time?

Remember that when the ALLEGATIONS broke (and they are allegations of a scandal -- not a SCANDAL), they included the story of a fourteen-year-old being molested. The other three women? There was nothing illegal about any of it, but the molesting of the fourteen-year-old is a HUGE deal. If the allegation were true, he should step down, and hide in a cave before being arrested, but here's the thing.

But to return to this quote, I'm not sure WHEN this was said. More importantly, I sure as hell don't know the context or why Ivanka said what she said. Again, all that could have been avoided by the reporter writing, "TONIGHT she weighed in on the scandal. In response to the question: "QUESTION GOES HERE", she said, "There's a special place in hell ...." Do you understand? There is no CONTEXT! The question could have been: "Ivanka, if you won't give a statement on Judge Roy Moore, can you tell us what do you think of child predators?" or "Ivanka, what do you think of someone that would do that to a child?"

As I said, I'm not going to get any clearer than this so if you don't understand what I'm saying, it's fine.

Factfinder2

As I pointed out to you in my comment, it is not known whether the AP writer represented the context accurately. Apparently you believe she didn't, and it would be no surprise to me if you're right about that. I have no way to know. Frankly, I don't really care about what Ivanka has to say regarding her opinion of Moore. What we should concentrate on is whether or not the accusations against him are legitimate. It's looking more and more like they might not be.

migratorypatterns

What we should concentrate on is whether or not the accusations against him are legitimate. It's looking more and more like they might not be.

This. Absolutely 100%. Totally agree and that's what I was trying to do by pointing out that the article really never details how, where, or in what context she said it. That's all I was doing. I've been trying to follow the evidence and I'm convinced it's BS, but we'll see.

srayzie

and your not my boss 😁

srayzie

You're gonna break their heart by blocking them 😂 What a VILE reply! 😮

You're a funny triggered snowflake. Go to your safe space and STFU now.

Shizy

I love how that cry baby always feels the need to leave comments saying who he "blocked". What a fricken whiner!

srayzie

Haha. As if it's gonna hurt our feelings lol. I've never noticed the little snowflake until today.

Shizy

Oh I have unfortunately. He's just a rude dick if anyone ever presents an opinion or idea different than what he thinks.

srayzie

Well this one sounds almost entertaining he's so bad haha

ESOTERICshade

Oh NO! Everybody doesn't live in your bubble!! Your problem is with CNN and not @bopper

IIJOSEPHXII

This is Zionist Jews here, who want to bring human sacrifice to a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem - the definition of a special place in hell. Probanly talking about her own team too.

AnAnonandOnandOn

"but apparently Trump is showing no favoritism in this matter (child predators). Though left and right are two sides of the same coin, essentially,"

Both ludicrous statements. He showed his favoritism to child molesters by placing his 14-yo daughter with a known "girl-lover" to elevate his status (this is before Miss America, itself an abomination).

The left is obviously associated with evil.

bopper

The left is obviously associated with evil.

That's the point in divide and conquer, and illusion of choice, the left is "obviously" associated w/ evil. The right, not so obvious. The devil you know and the devil you don't know.

bernitdown

Are you kidding?

They're both fucked! The right is deeply in bed with big oil and defense corporations, hires MSM 'patriots' to wrap themselves up in the flag and serve a largely uneducated base of people total horseshit. The left is deeply in bed with big phrama and other corporate interests, they don't give a rats ass about the working/poors either. Instead they wrap themselves in a rainbow flag and pump up SJW issues to look good in comparison to the war mongering republicans.

We need actual change, both parties are corrupt and corporate owned entities.

srayzie

That's what he said!

That's the point in divide and conquer, and illusion of choice, the left is "obviously" associated w/ evil. The right, not so obvious. The devil you know and the devil you don't know.

bopper

@bernitdown Just to be clear, I am agreeing w/ you. Great comment.

bernitdown

Oh thank god, I thought Voat was getting to be nothing but racism and trumptards. Where are the rest of the sane people who hate both sides?

mooteensy

Calling users "trumptards" is retarded. I hate the division that is caused by both sides, but saying "trumptard" or "racism" is the exact division that politicians feed off of. Come on

Shizy

I was going to post a similar sentiment but you said it well 🙂

pipilongstockings

Evil is evil it doesnt come in blue and red colors, elephants and donkeys. It is no respector of person. The choices these evil men and women make will have consequences. This idea that dems or repub or more evil than the other is just division and needs to be sqwashed. Evil people using their power on both sides of the road. We need to see this for what it is. Evil against good.

think-

Or don't want to know?

bopper

Bingo.

think-

:-)

ESOTERICshade

The devil you know and the devil you don't know.

Been that way for thousands of years.

Vindicator

Interestingly, it would be that way for any one of us elevated to power. There's a very low probability either you or I or anyone on this board would do any better than Trump, were we to shoulder the weight of responsibility, vast horde of enemies and access to unlimited power that he has.

ESOTERICshade

There's a very low probability either you or I or anyone on this board would do any better than Trump,

No argument from me there.


access to unlimited power that he has.

I can't go there. He only gets to ride a fraction of the big pony.

bopper

I think I triggered some Roy Moore folks. Can't help it if he's shot down in flames.

mooteensy

None of us can. If he did the things he is accused of, then fuck him and he deserves it. If not, then I hope his name is cleared. Frankly, Moore seems to be a distraction imo.

ESOTERICshade

You triggered somebody that obviously has the emotional control of a five year old. I wouldn't let it bother you.

bopper

Lol. Reminds me of a few others around here.

Onlio

Seems to me she should be addressing Joe Biden

Sackajahweeda

Exactly Onlio...bring on Bidengate he needs to be outed as a PREDATOR!!!

foltaisaprovenshill

This definitely, but she's a globalist shill so she'd never say anything bad against Molester Biden.

Plus, unlike with Moore, we have video of Biden molesting little kids, vs just an obviously forged year book signature that's already been heavily debunked by handwriting experts and the common sense of the fact that there are two different colors of ink used in the forgery, and two different handwriting examples.

anotherdream

They can't though. They've got to go along with this for now. - I don't believe the allegations about Roy Moore for a second. And all this shit is too damn convenient. - The democrats and the dirty pubs are in a fucking death fit and they are doing anything and everything they can have their way. lol - Trumps inaction on this thing tells me everything I need to know. - "The GOP choose Dennis Hastert, a known pedophile, and rapidly promoted him through the party to be the longest serving GOP Speaker of the House. If they REALLY thought Roy Moore was a pedophile/rapist they would have given HIM the $30M they spent to oppose him BEFORE any allegations of sexual misconduct. Which Roy Moore is real? The Washington Post’s shy pedophile or the 40 yr old virgin they describe in the same article? Is he the Bill Clintonesque violent rapist described by Gloria Allred, or the man known privately and publicly as someone who won’t sacrifice principle to stay in office? Now Paul Ryan is virtue signaling with anti-sexual harassment training for Congress. What are they REALLY worried about? A man who can’t be bought or intimidated." - David Knight - Info Wars - ... I believe he's 100% correct. They cannot buy this man, so they have to destroy him. -

bopper

Yeah, point is, if they're willing to throw Moore under the bus then they're more than willing to do so to others who are guilty of much worse. That's the theory.

ESOTERICshade

Related to pizzagate as Ivanka has spoken out about the subject of child trafficking before.

As her and daddy met with NCMEC and Thorn (Ashton Kutcher)....(eyeroll)