Cc1914

This flicker account belongs to the journalist who was married to Brett McGurk .....Gina Chon, who had covered Iraq for the Journal, quit under pressure after the disclosure of her relationship with Brett McGurk while both lived in Baghdad in 2008. McGurk, who was on the National Security Council staff during the Bush administration, is President Obama’s nominee to be ambassador to Iraq. https://www.flickr.com/photos/77336281@N03/7193810382/in/photostream

think-

Remember the Dutroux scandal in Belgium? Children who were meant to be elite child sex slaves were kidnapped and killed. During the investigation of these crimes, more than 20 witnesses who were meant to testify in the trial (focusing soley on the lower class kidnapper) were killed. There is a big elite pedophile network Belgium. It wouldn't make sense to send somewhere there who is not a pedophile or approving pedophilia, because he or she wouldn't be accepted by the local power circles.

Cc1914

Good observation . It's never ending !

bibigirl_

I hadnt seen this

kanenanable

Im trying to contribute to v/pizzagate but i need to CCPs , help me out!

waxdino

This gets posted at least once a week, and I'm cool with that. Keep posting til it gains traction like the Creepy Joe Biden story.

InnocentAngels

I saw it sometime before the election.

TrishaUK

This is a very interesting interview I listened to a few minutes ago. The man seems very knowledgeable about Deep State Operations and mentions 'Q'Anon. As a Christian, when aliens are mentioned I am more inclined to dismiss, but I do believe in the spiritual realm, ie angels and demons. That said it is a very interesting conversation, worth listening too. 😇 David Wilcock EXCLUSIVE: Pizzagate, Donald Trump, & Fall of the Cabalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNDeJjLJd_I

new4now

The Ambassador was Howard Gutman , the Belgian Ambassador

Also was Hillary's Secret Service under investigation

Singleservename

Thank you. Yes it was him. Funny thing is, I knew his name from other investigation threads. I'm going to take my hard drive apart looking for them.

Are_we_sure

The reason this went nowhere is because the charges fell apart on further investigation.

The ambassador was he was cleared and got an apology from the State Department.

These initial news reports about the allegations were followed up by and Inspector's General report. The initial allegations turned out to be office gossip leaked by diplomatic security officer who did not work the case and was not familiar with the details. She was claiming a cover up, but the IG found that the allegations were garbage and they quickly dismissed them.

ReddittRefugee

Calling bullshit on this Are_we_sure troll yet again

The initial allegations turned out to be office gossip leaked by diplomatic security officer who did not work the case and was not familiar with the details. She was claiming a cover up, but the IG found that the allegations were garbage and they quickly dismissed them.

This guy just regurgitates the official IG coverup statement ("*nothing to see here folks . . . move along . . . *")

So, here's what actually happened:

"after only two days of preliminary inquiry, the agent was directed to stop any further investigation into the matter, because of a decision by senior Department officials to treat the matter as a “management issue.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-20/watergate-style-break-covered-shocking-wave-clinton-state-department-scandals

So the security team did not determine the falsity of the charges in 2 days.

Here's what the IOG's report actually said:

"before the preliminary inquiry was halted, only one of multiple potential witnesses on the embassy’s security staff had been interviewed. Additionally, DS never interviewed the Ambassador and did not follow its usual investigative protocol of assigning an investigative case number to the matter or opening and keeping investigative case files".

In other words, the agent had only managed to interview one person before he got yanked out, and someone prevailed upon the security team to not record a case number, and to get rid of the files.

The security didn't prove squat, either about Howard Gutman's innocence or his guilt. Their investigation got pulled out from under them before the investigator could get much of anything done.

Senior State Department staff intervened , they pulled the investigating agent out of Belgium, and they changed the issue from an investigation to a 'management issue,' where everything could be handled internally at senior levels.

See how the sleight-of-hand works, readers?

The Howard Gutman matter did get out of the security team and into the highest levels of the Secretary's office. Big time.

Senior department officials got involved in pulling the investigator out Belgium and doing the paperwork to convert the investigation into a 'management issue' to be handled by senior managers.

In fact, it went so high that it was Under Secretary of State for Management, Patrick Kennedy, who initiated the intervention.

The Under Secretary of State for Management sits on the President's Management Council, and reports to Counselor to the Secretary of State Cheryl Mills at that time) who reports directly to the Secretary of State (Hillary Clinton at that time.)

When Howard Gutman was flown over to Washington to discuss the charges,** it was Patrick Kennedy and Cheryl Mills who interviewed him personally.**

This shit was being handled at the highest levels of the State Department.

And if anyone actually believe that Cheryl Mills didn't report the Gutman affair in detail to Hillary Clinton, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you . . .

If interested readers would like to read the report issued by the Inspector General's office, you can get it here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20141017160310/http:/oig.state.gov/documents/organization/233250.pdf

In that report you will find no statement that "the charges of interference were mainly due to office gossip, where the people NOT involved in the particular investigation made the charges"


So, what's the deal with this Are_we_sure person?

It doesn't seem like a bot could do such focused trolling? But how does a real flesh & blood person get so desperately pathetic as to post such transparently ridiculous BS?

And who obviously doesn't read original sources?

Whats up with that?

Are_we_sure

post such transparently ridiculous BS?

Dude,

A. Transparently ridiculous BS is what this board is all about. Read the front page on any day. John Podesta's in custody, have you heard?

B. If you're calling me a bot, you don't know what a bot is.

B. You're citing known bullshit artist William Craddick and you claim to be interested in the truth? The same guy who created the bullshit connection between Clinton and Laura Silsby? The claim that I demolished here. . He made this easily disprovable claim.

Hillary has a LONG history of interest in Ms. Silsby. Wikileak emails dating back till at least 2001 have been found in her archives discussing Laura's NGO.

It's complete and total bullshit. The document he cites was NOT an email and it was clearly written after the Haitian earthquake in 2010. It was so obvious that it was written in 2010, he must be lying. There's simply no room for an honest mistake here. The NGO didn't even exist in 2001.

As for this silly cover up claim, the OIG report was basically an exoneration of the ambassador. I love how you quote from the OIG report but you leave out the fact that

The allegations were not credible and not substantiated.

Here's the language from before you quote, (which begins in the middle of a sentence.)

**OIG found that, based on the limited evidence collected by DS, the suspected misconduct by the Ambassador was not substantiated. ** DS management told OIG, in 2013, that the preliminary inquiry was appropriately halted because no further investigation was possible. OIG concluded, however, that additional evidence, confirming or refuting the suspected misconduct,could have been collected. For example.......

which leads directly to part you quote. OIG did not say there was any coverup. They said there were steps they could take minimize appearance of favoritism. OIG could have REINVESTIGATED THIS CASE, they have that option. They did not. Why? The evidence didn't support it. State basically said we found there was nothing to this immediately upon investigation.** And OIG agreed the charges were unsubstatiated,** but said they could have investigated more.

For those interested, here's the ambassador's story and can see how flimsy the charge is. He used to walk through the park next to his office and talk to people. Ambassadors in Belgium did not at that time require a security detail (so he did not ditch his security) The charge was he was seen talking to drug dealers or prostitutes. This then became he ditched his security team to solicit prostitutes, this then became underage prostitutes. (Notice how this is never mentioned whatsoever in the OIG report. The Belgian press reported there actually had been no reports of illegal activity in that park and another quote Belgian intelligence who had him under surveillance and never witnessed any questionable.

The OIG report is basically a clearance and it makes two recommendations, they are pretty anondyne.

  1. The Department should take steps (as previously recommended in OIG’s report on the 2012 inspection (ISP-I-13-18)), to enhance the integrity of DS’s internal investigations process by implementing safeguards to prevent the appearance of, or actual, undue influence and favoritism by Department officials.

  2. The Department should clarify and revise the Foreign Affairs Manual and should promulgate and implement additional protocols and procedures, in order to ensure that allegations of misconduct concerning Chiefs of Mission and other senior Department officials are handled fairly, consistently, and independently.

carmencita

Paid Shill.

Are_we_sure

Morning, carmencita.

You are incorrect. Enjoy your weekend.

ReddittRefugee

Paid Shill

Actually, I hadn't thought about that. Good possibility.

CosmicBoBo

I've posted the video on twitter and even FB and it has made the rounds in the last year, even before the election. No one cares. Go figure

Singleservename

It did not make the rounds last year at least not here, or on the chans, I'm 100% certain I haven't seen this before. Nor have we dug into anything about this case here on voat afaik. Ffs Silsby/Gayler has been investigated to the point of oblivion and this never gained any traction - how?

Who is this pedophile ambassador? What happened to the whistleblower? She was part of the Inspector General Investigative team and said she'd go to Congress to dmand an investigation What happened? Who was she? How was she shut up?

CosmicBoBo

I've got a copy of the video dated in March of this year when I put it on my online locked files. However, it was part of the conversation on twitter last year, though I have no idea how many saw it. I only found the video to save it after several sightings on twitter and found the source video location. It was posted here, I believe, as well. I have sent the video to Hannity, Tucker, and others with no reply. As for here or the chans, I dunno. Maybe it was deleted here, but I have seen it. No clue on chans. Not interested in arguing this point. I didn't get the video from "nowhere"

Singleservename

I'm not arguing anon. Not at all. Just trying to figure out why this hasn't been investigated at all.

See the links below by swmbo - all are from 7 months ago or later. It was never here on voat when there was still proper digging being done.

CosmicBoBo

There's a pic of Joe Biden in B&W with a little girl lifting up her skirt. I have blasted that all over twitter as well as a friend of mine. This one never shows up on all of the Creepy Joe montages. I am not an expert, but shadowing and pixels and the fact that it has been around the net for quite a while, unaltered, prove to me it is real. I do not do 4chan. Seldom post, though read, here. Basically, I am ignored, so this is making my miserable life worthwhile. thanks

carmencita

NBC. OMG.

Singleservename

I know. Very weird it surfaces now. Anyone here see this before?

Singleservename

Well now I feel vindicated having left in April - all the real researchers were gone anyway because it didn't instigate any digging whatsoever.

This very relevant video shows up in April, but none of the comments even really notices. All I could find was this one:

Holy crap, and it's MSM, why hasn't more of this been made before? Doesn't prove anything, but it could potentially be a significant piece of evidence to counter all the deniers saying PG couldn't possibly be true.

Singleservename

Yes there it is. But 7 months ago, and I took a sabbatical from PG in April so that explains.

Still no digging at all then. The whistleblower was supposed to go to Congresman Ed Royce to demand an investigation.

Singleservename

Also different case, just cp, no pedophilia or trafficking. Could very well be connected somehow, but this whistleblower's case went far higher up.

And isn't it odd that this video/case of the pedo ambassador surfaces only now?

shewhomustbeobeyed

You asked if anyone has seen it before. I am not very good at linking things, but this has been here before.

carmencita

I vaguely remember something, but it was soooooo long ago people said. I say it needs to be pounded into people's heads over and over until they get it.

DerivaUK

I’ve seen this quite a few times. Didn’t ever get much traction though.

Singleservename

But this is a different case even than Silsby. I can't remember ever seeing this, or us digging into it. Am I wrong?

carmencita

Ha. I could almost laugh if this stuff was not do horrid. We have dug into so many similar things, who knows. I remember something with Matt and Savannah, but it could have been something else. It should be tweeted out to someone. Remember when we used to make things go viral? This is that time again.

Singleservename

Yes I remember. Also remember you and kudos for still clinging on where I couldn't. A simple question to Congressman Ed Royce might work. Any Calis here?

derram

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=bb6JeX6dvEk | https://www.hooktube.com/embed/bb6JeX6dvEk :

NBC News: Hillary Clinton ‘Covered Up’ Pedophile Ring At State Department (2013) - YouTube

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