Verite1

Whoa. Interesting. It’s a clue.

captainramius87

Things are REALLY heating up.... holy shit

quiche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCOZVLFGQJA Alice and Wonderland. Johnny Depp plays the Mad Hatter in Marilyn Manson's video "Eat me, Drink me."

quiche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V4Jt1fCt3s Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson, Satanic blood bonding.

quiche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3sEKLlFLzI Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson just made a creepy new video NOT SAFE FOR WORK that includes an orgy scene.

Exern

Could someone explain the relevance of Q's post versus this post other than the fact that the party is in poor reform because of the recession. I've seen bits in the comments but not something that can be explained in detail.

pandoranora

http://phibetaiota.net/page/2/ Robert Steele: Trump Counter Coup In Play, Deep State, Pedophiles, Satanist Are Toast

srayzie

Wow you've been here 7 months and have never made a comment or submission until now? Why be quiet until this very moment?

pandoranora

My english is not that good to write long comments, sorry...

srayzie

I keep seeing that but have been hesitant because I do not trust Robert David Steele. Have you watched it? Does it seem believable?

pandoranora

Robert David Steele is one of the best and honest truthseeker I know. He is connected to Cynthia McKinney and other honourable people. Look at his website.

srayzie

It's ok. I understand what you said. I have. I've watched a lot of his videos. Did you watch the video where he also said this?

"We actually believe that there is a colony on Mars that is populated by children who were kidnapped and sent into space on a 20-year ride," he told Jones. "So that once they get to Mars they have no alternative but to be slaves on the Mars colony."

Besides providing the slave labor, children are also being harvested for their blood and bone marrow, Steele says. While Jones said he didn't "know about Mars bases," he did take the opportunity to hype his own NASA theories.

http://www.sfgate.com/weird/article/NASA-No-we-don-t-have-child-slave-colonies-on-11259620.php

He also starves for attention and exaggerates everything. He's been deceptive with his "unrig" deal too.

pandoranora

Even if I do not believe or better can not believe everything, does not mean, that all the other infos are not right. One year ago I could not believe ANYTHING of what is discussed in here... And you also can not proof, that there are no colonies on Mars. Can you? I am not interessted in Steeles Personality. I am just interested in truth and truely insider informations about wht is going on, like you. And I believe him. Thats it.

srayzie

That's fine. I'm not trying to say it in a rude way to you. No I can't prove anything. I just never have felt good about him. I'm not putting you down for liking him.

pandoranora

Today it is hard to believe ANYone... ;)

srayzie

You've got that right.

TrishaUK

I don't mind David Steele, just seems that ONLY his plans and theories are the right ones, and Trump should do it, no questions asked. I DO NOT LIKE HIS IDEA OF NOT CHARGING ANYONE FOR ALL THIS SICK STUFF - 'forgive and forget' sort of thing! NEVER!

Bluebirdsolitud2

Wow!

srayzie

@Vindicator I know you've been following this stuff

Vindicator

Thanks srayzie. I caught that on Twitter this morning. Very interesting.

If it was kept under such tight wraps at the time, how did Trump know about it then?

The_Real_Wahrheit

Another coincidence -if you read the Daily Mail article below on the Halloween party at the White House, Malia dressed in a Morton Salt costume.

Didn't we have a big investigation into Morton a few months ago? Some port out east and also some party at a plant in Michigan?

2impendingdoom

great find!

GeorgeT

I saw it on David Seaman channel. First it was the $65 000 hot dogs and now this!

crashing_this_thread

I almost forgot Trump was one of the most outspoken birthers. I didn't believe him then, but now there is reasonable evidence to suggest Obama actually was not born in the US.

He was made fun of so much, but now he has gotten payback SO FUCKING HARD. Jesus fuck, this guy is winning.

Stukov

The issue is confounded by the actual details of his birth. Firstly, Frank Davis is more than likely Barrack's real father, who at the time was a CIA agent. So in reality he would have been a US citizen even if he was not born in the US, because both of his real parents were US citizens. Them needing to doctor his birth certificate would also make sense if they needed to change who his father really was or was born elsewhere.

There is some evidence to suggest that BO mother was a CIA asset. There is some possibility that BO and FD chose Obama as the "father" had something to do with some CIA plan at the time, or simply done to prevent FD from getting in trouble impregnating his asset.

Additionally personally I have seen enough circumstantial evidence to suggest that BO was raised to be a CIA asset as well (think MKULTRA/Project Monarch style), which is why he was helped into college by Talal despite poor grades before and during his tenure, was into "community organizing" (helps CIA infiltrate these groups to direct and control them), and why so few people remember him when at college (CIA often recruits people non MKed before college to have them spy on dissidents and professors at college).

As someone who checks ID's and what not for a living, there were several markers on the birth certificate that showed manipulation, as the government trains it people to look out for. I said that since it was released, though at the time I still felt he was US citizen (the paper in Hawaii mentions his birth) and they did it to fuck with people, which is strange because the CIA certainly had the capability manufacture one with no defects, so I'm sure they released it under the presumption it would convince every day folk and allow them to marginalize people who claimed it wasn't authentic.

Verite1

Wow. It explains so much because he sold us down the river on all the big things.

quiche

The thing I found strange about the BC was race of the father. No one ever said "African" is a race. And in that era the term "Negro" would have been used, not African.

49-louie

did u see this? WOW: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Releases New Information on President Obama's Birth Certificate (FNN) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM&t=12s

Pipebomb

Damn, I never payed attention to that. I noticed wikipedia and "fact" checking websites never mention this 2015 information Arpaio presented. Thx for the link.

49-louie

yvw

argosciv

Well... that settles that...

Really wish someone had shown me this earlier xD

crashing_this_thread

Yeah, it's weird it's not talked about more here on voat. It's pretty fucking clear that his birth certificate is forged.

Verite1

Wow that’s crazy. There are so many Democrats and progressives who have completely written this off as stupid right wing fake news. I’m interested to see the definitive proof that this is so. I would not be surprised and it would explain so much

crashing_this_thread

I had trouble believing it, but they don't even dare mock it. It's hard to debunk(I always try to debunk this stuff). Pizzagate demands more reading and there isn't really a good single piece of evidence so it is easier to diceminate and present as something else only to debunk.

I honestly don't know how to explain his birth certificate other than it being an obvious forgery.

PedoStomper

The fact that Obama was raping, murdering, and eating children while in office is more of a big deal to me than where he was born. Who honestly gives a fucking fuck whether he is American or not. He is a Satanist.

Verite1

Where is the definitive proof that Obama has eaten human beings? You’re putting the cart before the horse. #gullible

PedoStomper

Because he's a high-ranking member of a Satanic order (probably more than one) and cannibalism is par for the course. Read up on Crowley. Your games won't work here, shill, this is a topic that we're more well-versed in than you are.

crashing_this_thread

If we want to redpill anyone we need to use any evidence of wrong doing by these people against them. You got tunnel vision, mate.

PrideOfOshtekk

Because its irrelevant. We know Obama is CIA.

Vindicator

It's not talked about because most folks already knew it was true. :-) They also knew there was no point in talking about it because the lying media would never allow it to come out.

GoatyMcGoatface

Obama's fucking brother said he was born in Kenya lol

Eggs-Vs-Bacon

Is that you Liz?

srayzie

No I'm not Liz but I like her 🙂

TrishaUK

OHHH I think Trump has been planning this 'Q'Anon for years, no wonder it is running smoothly. He's been waiting for the right timing!!! I came across this just now but I thought that 'pizzagate' was only a phrase coined just over a year ago? How come Donald Trump mentioned 'PIZZAGATE' in 2011 in this interview about Anthony Weiner? CNN Published on 1 Jun 2011 - CNN: Donald Trump on Weiner-gate - https://youtu.be/2wAEcN9UIy8 @carmencita @3141592653 @GeorgeT @Cheesebooger @Commoner

senpaithatignoresyou

That fits the "Peter Thiel revenge" timeline too perfectly.

Was there are gawker/Weiner connection to this? Or a Gawker/Clinton connection? I think thiel is supporting trump, and together they are destroying thiel's enemies.

nitro169

Even time travelers mess up sometimes

TrishaUK

lol - loved that time travel video! ;- by reallygrace - Something Strange Is Going on with the Trump Family https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw6-jz8srZo (I don't believe this but it is really amusing and fun for a change)

ESOTERICshade

That made me bump my head on the wall of the damn rabbithole...

How come Donald Trump mentioned 'PIZZAGATE' in 2011 in this interview about Anthony Weiner? CNN Published on 1 Jun 2011 - CNN: Donald Trump on Weiner-gate -

TrishaUK

Somebody replied to this comment I wrote, he/she said that the 'pizzagate' mentioned in 2011 referred to something about him eating pizza with a knife and fork??? But since then that person deleted their comment so I could not reply.

ESOTERICshade

Somebody replied to this comment I wrote, he/she said that the 'pizzagate' mentioned in 2011 referred to something about him eating pizza with a knife and fork??? But since then that person deleted their comment so I could not reply.

He used the term pizzagate because the media was giving him hell for eating pizza with Sarah Palin and using a knife and fork. Media made a huge deal out of it and he flippantly called it "pizzagate." And now people want to believe that he had pizzagate planned all along. Q has made people a little loopy.

TrishaUK

I just noticed he said pizzagate, I didn't know about the pizza fork thing. Thanks for that. Well, lets put it this way, pizzagate fits the voat narrative much better than the fork incident lol

Vindicator

LOL.

Here's something I've been wondering about since these Q leaks. Exactly HOW did the pizzagate story break? Who made the first post about it? Did a little bird drop some crumbs on 4chan like Q has been doing about certain Podesta emails? Who first used the term "pizzagate"?

Anyone recall?

I think we would be well served to construct the timeline of our grand adventure.

ESOTERICshade

Who made the first post about it? Did a little bird drop some crumbs on 4chan like Q has been doing about certain Podesta emails?

Wikileaks dumped the emails and people started digging. Assange sat back and watched people dig. Every now and then he would tweet hints. If I remember correctly from one of the hints people noticed food was being used out of context. Then more people noticed. Somebody found CP or cheese pizza somewhere as a reference to child porn and it started a brush fire that turned into a blaze. At least that is how I remember it.

Verite1

Podesta emails which show he’s friend with James Alefantis is Comet Ping Pong And then everybody hacked into his account to see all those very suspicious photos and all the comments were uspicious, like-minded individuals

Vindicator

I would love to see the blow-by-blow, wouldn't you?

ESOTERICshade

I would love to see the blow-by-blow, wouldn't you?

Yes but I don't know how we would find the definite moments when the aha! revelations were made. It would make an interesting book if somebody would take the time to track it all down.

logjam

from youtube: "Seems that way but he's referring to his pizza date with Sarah Palin where the media went crazy about him eating pizza with a fork. He called it 'pizzagate'. It is creepy that he's saying this word on an Anthony Weiner segment and the fast forward to 2016 and pizzagate & Weiner are in the news."

karenrussell63

it would have been out of place if he didnt have a valid reason to coin the term in 2011

logjam

I don't think it was a "coined" expression back then. There was a controversy about him eating his pizza and since it was a big deal, he used "gate" at the end.

Improbablyanasshole

Kek works in mysterious ways.

logjam

How in the name of fuck? How?

Cheesebooger

After what Hollywood/news medias did to him he went for the jugular. Its fascinating. He may be our man after all

2impendingdoom

that reminds me. I don't remember which year it was but at a whitehouse correspondants' dinner Trump was once completely humiliated. It was awful.

DonSombra

2008 when Obama was having his inaugural dinner. Barry O gave the future prez major shit for stating the fact that Obama's birth certificate is fake, and he's not eligible for the presidency. He followed it up with a somewhat comical rehash of the opening scene from The Lion King depicting Obama's African birth.

Thesheeplfollowuhome

2012

Joe10jo

Wouldn't it be awesome if along with everything else Trump's doing, he provides irrefutable proof that Obama's foreign born!

Verite1

That would indeed be mind blowing. If they have the goods they should do it. For the country. The CIA is evil

followthedolla

sheriff joe already showed us that his birth cert. is total hoax, as is the man known as b.o. in general

hels

Unfortunately it's a day late and a dollar short. Let's pretend he did it today, what would that gain him? Obama has very little power with the US Population right now so the media would report, "Why is Trump trying to discredit the great president?" "Trump grasping at straws" "Does Trump think Obama can run for a third term?"

It sounds stupid and it is stupid. Anyways, pretend Michael Obama has a 2020 run (he won't) but we can pretend. The media would only sway this as Trump not having anything negative to say about Michael so he goes after barry. It's a game that Trump knows how to play and if he has proof he knows when it has to be used.

Verite1

True. A trump card, if you will

2impendingdoom

that's probably what I'm thinking of, I mostly remember thinking that steam was coming from trumps ears.

TrishaUK

It is a** Felony Offence** to lie under Oath in America and if, as these documents prove, B.Obama lied about his place of birth, surely that constitutes as a Felony Lie under Oath when he claimed that he was born in Hawaii? @Joe10jo @hels @DonSombra @ Thesheeplfollowuhome

Skeptical2017

It was the fork/pizza picture that caused controversy then.

Skeptical2017

It supposedly had to do with a pizza commercial where he ate his pizza with a knife and fork. Not like everyone else.

alphabravo

Well, how about that. No coincidences :)

srayzie

Isn't that something. From Trump himself!

Factfinder2

Pictures at the secret party: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2084800/Inside-Obamas-secret-Alice-In-Wonderland-themed-Halloween-party-White-House.html

Featuring Tim Burton and Johnny Depp.

Voat thread: "Tim Burton: The Secret Peophile King of Hollywood" https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1712299

Hopevoats

And there are the cards...

think-

Featuring Tim Burton and Johnny Depp.

Why we are not surprised? /s

AngB23

Wonder what he was eluding to by saying “Alice AND Wonderland” versus “Alice IN Wonderland”

ESOTERICshade

& fundamentally means "more" or "more to come" and beyond that i'm not sure. I also know that the cult sometimes uses that sign. One of there greedy themes is "always more more more" becuse they feed on the labor and productivity of humanity like pigs. But in the context of Wonderland I'm not sure.

ESOTERICshade

I already know about Oz programming. What everybody is puzzled about is why it has to be Alice "&" (and/more) Wonderland instead of Alice "in" Wonderland. But thanx for the link.

Blacksmith21

So if Lewis Carroll was a pedo, then the garden party was most likely a pedofest. Think Trump knew what was going on with O in 2009?

GHDW

Trump ate pizza with a knife and fork in 2011 and called the media attention around it "pizzagate".
After everything I've seen so far there truly are no coincidences and I'm pretty sure knew all along but if he spoke out back then he wouldn't be here to lead now.

GeorgeT

I forgot about that - his way of saying I like my pizza - food!!!!

independenceday

Thanks! Check out this tweet by Jacob Rothschild I just found over at Twitter, how ironic:
Lots of #conspiracytheories seem to be emerging about me all of a sudden... Jacob #Rothschild 2:42 PM - 26 Mar 2014

srayzie

They always pull out the "conspiracy theory card" don't they?

derram

https://archive.fo/UKRrn :

LIZ THE🌪IS HERE‼️🍕 on Twitter: "President Trump's tweet in 2012 about Barack Obama's Alice & Wonderland party.♣️Simply amazing! #QAnon #FollowtheWhiteRabbit 🐇 t.co/aeyH2073jx"

This has been an automated message.

NoPatience4UrShit

Twitter won't let me view the tweet the rat bastards

Stukov

Well that is not the same as Q specifying Alice & Wonderland (not in).

Vindicator

You're turning into a rockstar, srayzie. :-)

srayzie

That's better than a terrier 😆

NoPatience4UrShit

Awesome, thank you

srayzie

You're welcome 🙂

argosciv

Jeeze, the quote that just keeps on giving...

("Alice & Wonderland", that is)

BlindB

I cannot find that tweet so unless Trump went and deleted it this is fake. Even if Trump deleted it how would someone else find that tweet right now.

You can see for yourself

https://twitter.com/search?l=&q=from%3ArealDonaldTrump%20since%3A2012-01-01%20until%3A2012-01-18&src=typd&lang=en

I don't normally post here but checking to port info to /pol/

According to the search he didn't tweet anything on 12th Jan 2012.