So now we the people get to house and feed him until he dies. Maybe wont be too long considering what they do to child rapists in the big house. Im all for the instant death sentence.
Better. But if this were in California, you know they'd give him a week that includes yoga sessions and a Scientology indoctrination just so they'd be sure to make good use of his kind of evil when the seven days is up.
I think that this sort of crime should garner a death penalty verdict. Do you really want any of these evil assholes back out in the community ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE? Of course not. So why house and feed and cloth their useless carcasses?
I would want them dead too, but death penalty actually ends up costing more in the end than even full life in prison, due to all the years of appeals, etc.
No appeals when it comes to this kind of crime. Go straight to firing squad from the court ruling. Children are ruined or dead because of this, why should abusers get to live?
That is the trotted out claim by those against the death penalty. I have not seen or run the numbers myself but I won't take their calculation on faith. And if true, it is a solvable problem. There is no law of nature that says that the cost of a death penalty case are higher than the cost of housing and feeding and clothing and SECURING them til death by natural causes.
COLLECTIVE EFFORT TO FIND DELETED BREADCRUMBS/THREADS on 4CHAN
Cannot make new thread -- not enough points?
I HAVE DATA!!!
Maybe I can help..not sure. I wanted to save threads on 4chan just in case.
6th NOVEMBER!
Tested grabbing of whole website with
HTTRACK
....it started following thousands of links....it grabbed like 80.000k in files and x number of threads....TOTAL 16GIB...grabbed for 10 hours...maybe I can help? how? new to 4chan.... lost in data...lol
I started grabbing at CBTS ~#100...so followed mostly Q related.It was start of grab...so thread 1-100 should be covered!?
according to ((
https://voat.co/v/CalmBeforeTheStorm/2249129
"4chan mods are editing the thread posts"))
Threads are getting messed with,.....and I also realized that important threads got deleted several minutes after creation.
I guess not all where archived?
Do archives get also messed with?
please explain!!!
I am not the only one who has live grabbed websites, and we should coordinate a upload of all the data and
START LOOKING FOR THE DELETED STUFF!!
I am new to 4chan,....so sorry if this is stupid suggestion,...and
EVERYTHING
got already archived somewhere.
I got no clue how this forum stuff works.....my INTUITION showed me 4chan the first time on 1st November.
since then I read everyday...but still new to this stuff.
But I am here on voat from start of pizzagate...read only mode.
So I am eager to learn,...and/or help to setup this shit...
Do archives get also messed with?
please explain!!!
I
BET
there are
ZERO
kids involved from conservative families. ALL are the spawn of "liberal" parasites (single moms, welfare, etc). Right? It's called CONSEQUENCES people. Liberal policies spawn all manner of horrific downstream consequences.
Did you LOOK at the message chain? Which exists. I AM "thebearfromstartrack". Is that whom you are attempting to speak with? Is this Reese WItherspoon? Would you PLEASE stop bugging me? It was ONE kiss. I know you were happy and seeing skyrockets and shit, but you are WAY too stupid and stinky for someone like me.
Conservative isn't necessarily the same as rich elite oligarchy families. And some of those, the kids can end up pretty messed up. I've met a fair share and there very often suicides and drug addicts among them. For example, Anderson (Vanderbilt) Cooper's brother threw himself out a window for reasons I don't know. I'm not suggesting we be lenient to criminals but I'm thinking that criminals or evil people sometimes hurt the people closest to them the most.
There are CRIMINAL rich people. THey are NOT conservatives, though they might WEAR that (affectation) like a sheep costume (Hillary/Bill Clinton). Evil is ALWAYS disquised. Obama isn't even a nigger, he just LOOKS like one.
I'm absolutely certain that a lot of CONSERVATIVES are criminals too. Not really sure your point. But blaming one party over another is a divisive tactic that won't fly in this subverse.
Not the way I define conservatism. You seem to be unable to distinguish (you're not a true Christian then) between them. Fake conservatives are not conservatives JUST LIKE fake Christians are NOT Christians (and WILL be shown the door, when they trot up to Jesus all happy with themselves). It's not an affectation (LOT's of people USE it that way). Just like nigger is not JUST about skin color.
Conservative here. It's never that simple. It's about good and evil, not conservative/liberal. Also, you may be confusing liberalism with radical leftists. Some of the greatest minds in history have been liberal thinkers. Liberal is relative, as is conservative. You can be a conservative Muslim and think it is ok to slice off a girl's private parts, or a liberal Democrat that advocates for zero restrictions on abortion. But yes, we are definitely reaping what we've sown for the past forty or fifty (more?) years and the harvest is quite rotten. Someone did a study that basically linked all kinds of downward social trends to the year that the supreme court of the U.S. took the daily morning prayer out of public schools...Satan really scored a victory that year. He'll score another one when "In God We Trust" is removed from our money.
supreme court of the U.S. took the daily morning prayer out of public schools
I upvoated you for your sentiment but I don't think your comment above is anything more than just another symptom of the cause. The CAUSE is Communists/Cultural Marxists and the damaging blitzkrieg of Post Modernism. We have been losing the battle of ideas because we have failed to recall our own history and the values that represent the Enlightenment.
Jesus was arguably the most important Enlightenment thinker but the Roman Church buried his ideas and truths under a pile of Latin Prayers and Rituals. It took Martin Luther, the next most significant Enlightenment catalyst, to unearth the core and fundamental notions that underpin the Christian ethos. That was 5 centuries ago. And then, of course, you have the others who synthesize the political implications of the Message of Jesus and others, like Spinoza, who distill elements of this fundamental message. Thomas Paine and John Locke take the argument to the political leadership and
voila!
, the notions of democracy and Tolerance bulldoze the corrupt power structures that kept everyone subjugated for centuries.
But now we are in a vacuum of forgetting and the Critical Theorists have entered this space as though the younger generation were Tabula Rasa, free of all prior wisdom. And that is not wrong. The System of Education has been captured as have the MSM outlets. What is needed is for the irrefutable arguments of the past that created the Enlightenment to make a brand new debut. So far, there is little sign that this is happening except from a few speakers like Jordan Peterson, folks that rarely are allowed a platform.
I feel like it's splitting hairs either way. I could argue that the abolition of school prayer gave Satan the "in" he needed for said Marxism to gain a foothold, but I don't have a magical window into the realm of the spirit. I just think it's an awfully strong coincidence if the statistics are valid. I've always been taught that "the prayer of a righteous man availeth much" and "whatsoever ye ask in Christ's name", etc. In short, prayer is nothing to shrug at. I truly believe the gains being made today are a result of MANY prayers and without CONTINUED prayer, repentance, faith in God, what we are seeing is but a brief respite...
But the time sequence is wrong. The Marxists came in first and then the Prayer (and notions of patriotism and national pride) went out the window due to indoctrination in the schools and colleges. And don't forget the admonition of Christ to not pray on the Street Corner (eg Don't demonstrate you virtue to be seen as virtuous. Just be Virtuous!). Praying in a school seems like:
1) Praying on the street corner
2) An industrialization of prayer and
3) Public Schools are not Churches and public school Prayer led by the paid staff on school time is a violation of the separation of Church and State. Trust me. You DO NOT WANT the government to be endorsing a branch of Christianity or opening that door for any other religion. We can all pray or not pray in our own way. The Creator is not housed in a cube in Mecca and requires you to face him with geographical precision and pray at particular times and manner!
Hey, I hope your Thanksgiving is with a happy and healthy family and good cheer all around!
I never said God was housed in any cube in Mecca or required us to face it while we pray? Prayer in schools was still reverence to the authority of our creator, and one need not all believe in the exact same things about God to ask Him for the things we surely all want from Him. And think of the psychological effect of removing that daily reverence to something greater than ourselves. While I do see your point about government mandated anything, it went on in our schools for 200 years...and I would not in good conscience be able to argue that things have improved since that time. :) But you make some good points.
Thank you for the well wishes! I hope the same for you! 😊
Of course you didn't! You are not a benighted human being who subscribed to Islam and the lies of Mohammad. So, awesome person, you missed the point I was making. That is my bad. What I was trying to emphasize is that, unlike Islam, Christians can pray anywhere, at anytime, and yet expect their creator to hear their words. So "School Prayer" is no more sacrosanct to a Christian than is praying in private while making widgets at a factory. But for Muslims, they have created necessities and places and times as being sacrosanct and become enraged when their dogma is not catered to.
And think of the psychological effect of removing that daily reverence
It is a valid concern. I think you are correct I am a nonbeliever (I don't believe in magic of any kind) but I am also an ardent appreciator of Jesus Christ. And it is important to the survival of our culture to value and teach the core Judeo-Christian story and meaning to the youth. And we need to teach the scientific method and the skeptic mindset. From those starting points, the individual can assemble their world view grounded in Western Thought. Currently, neither of those foundations are taught and so education in the USA and the West has become "hallowed" out (excuse the pun).
Again, I hope your THANKSGIVING is super-duper! Ta'
When I'm being "racist" I'm speaking in GENERAL, not absolutes. I KNOW it's now that simple. What you are explaining to me, is what I already am aware of. I'm speaking to the overarching effect on EVERYONE.
Speaking of Satan, it probably wasn't a good idea to allow mainstream protestant churches to STOP teaching the Bible (chapter by chapter and verse by verse) and START social (anti poverty) activism...This is WOMEN who are SUPPOSED to shut the fuck up in church.
ALSO, not a good idea to have them teach that everyone is EQUAL,,,,GIVEN (Bible) the WARNINGS about kenites, tares, BAD figs.
The Key of David is "real" and it DOES close doors that CANNOT be reopened and OPEN doors that CANNOT be closed to those who possess it.
I cannot ABIDE the way you CAPITALIZE various words at RANDOM as if this will cause the READER to be more easily INFLUENCED somehow. Also, I'm guilty of cursing when I get angry sometimes, heaven knows, God forgive me... but it's not expedient or Christ-like to drop f-bombs or racial slurs while spreading the message of God. Neither are they kind. Can you imagine Jesus calling people niggers? Does that fit with what you know of the savior of mankind? No? Then stop doing it and stop defending it! As for this stuff about the Key of David...I've only heard of Solomon's Key. As you may know, he was the son of David and a King of Israel, and he dabbled in witchcraft, idolatry, adultery, and lead Israel astray. I'll not be messing around with his grimoires of demons, thank you. As far as women being forbidden to speak in church, I'm not sure how this is even relevant top the topic at hand but since you brought it up...you will not find any God fearing house of Christian worship that requires total silence of women. Strong cases can be made against women holding positions of authority over men in the church (Yes I'm a woman and I do believe that is what the Bible teaches!) but the verse you are referring to is generally thought to be about women disrupting the service by asking questions because they struggled with the language. They were told to be quiet during the sermon and ask their husbands at home. 😌 Smh.....
You THINK it's RANDOM. Do you know what random MEANS? The BIBLE uses caps to emphasize.
It's like cussing. Should I not use offensive language (to you) either?
Jesus said "GET AWAY FROM ME, I NEVER KNEW YOU"....God hated Esau (IN THE WOMB).
Stop hating EVIL? You MUST be evil yourself.
The Key of David is the genetic lineage (and lifestyles) of Christ. YOUR faith OPENS
AND
closes doors.
"Strong" cases. SHEESH. I SUSPECTED you were a woman. You have a JOB. I'ts an IMPORTANT job. DO IT CORRECTLY. MEN do what men MUST do. It is NOT pleasant. EVIL makes it LOOK glamorous. It is NOT something we LIKE to do. We are following the LAW.
Keep the KIDS...and STOP being ungrateful. Your role IS important, but it's NOT on the FRONT lines. Mistakes WILL be made, YOU are NOT the correction.
I JUST want what is CORRECT. (just so you know). I DETEST power and responsibility. I would PREFER to be a LOVED CHILD of a WOMAN. That is NOT reality.
God sends strong delusions to the unbeliever to keep you out of our hair. I plant a seed, I move on. I'm not here to drag you kicking in screaming into heaven.
I wonder if God actually hates me sometimes. You? I NEVER hear from him directly, even just to see if he hates me? I pray for death. I don't get it. Still I study. I'm NOT trying to con God, but maybe I just have no clue what sincerity IS? I try and I try. Since I was saved, my life has been turned upside down. I see evil where I didn't before, and goodness where I thought evil WAS before!
I wish I were dead. Either way, God hates me, or God loves me....seems like I'm so insignificant, there should be NO problem...an insignificant IMPROVEMENT in the universe in fact. I don't get it. God wants me humble. I'm HUMBLE. I'm an IDIOT. I don't GET it. I just want ETERNAL PEACE! Let's get started!
No I don't think God hates me. Quite the contrary. You have to learn to be quiet and listen to His voice when your thoughts get turbulent. Read your Bible. Pray. Meditate on His goodness. Let your heart be broken and made anew. When I strayed away from God, I did so for about a decade. Coming back was not as easy as snapping my fingers. He does everything in His own way and time. I did not give up on wanting to feel that blessed assurance. I begged for God to do whatever it took for Him to get it through my thick skull! I realize now He was teaching me patience. I feel a lot more confident about Him now than I ever did when I was a new Christian. Remember Satan hates you and wants you to fail, but God is higher and stronger. He can't separate you from the Father, all Satan can do is give you temporary doubts but if you have Christ in your heart your place in eternity is already reserved and there is nothing that old devil can do it. That said, we can never obtain that peaceful knowledge in THIS life if we aren't obeying His will. God is loving but he does NOT spare the rod from His wayward children. If you're feeling the rod, examine what is going on. That may be His way of trying to correct you. No offense meant. All God's children feel that feeling, so don't think I'm preaching. God bless you!
Yeah I heard if God doesn't punish you, he doesn't care about you, and he doesn't care about everyone.
Anyway, I'm still a "baby" in the word (Hebrews says get PAST that). I don't even know if the messages (prayers for wisdom, protection from evil, guidance, support, etc) I get are from God or somewhere evil (opportunity for it). I just know EVERYTHING is different now and I feel LOST a lot, but I'm NOT quitting, since I REALIZE it's the ONLY thing worth HOPING for (salvation and eternal life WITHOUT the presence of evil!).
Anyway thanks again. I would say "God bless you" but I don't know if I have that kind of pull, and might get pounded for that. So I say, God's will to you, it's probably good given what I think I've learned about you.
Do you ever wonder what God does for fun? Does he even have fun?
Of course you can say God bless you! 😁 Thank you. God's will is perfect so thank you for that too. Stay strong, be of good cheer, and be patient with yourself. God knows what you are going through and He ABSOLUTELY loves you. He loves the world, but He doesn't force Himself on it.
I do wonder that! Lol. I do think God has a spirit of playfulness, because His creation does. What does God do for fun? Well for starters I think he creates for His own enjoyment. The "original" artist, you could say. Beyond that, I can only speculate, but the Bible says we will one day worship Him "in spirit and in truth" and we'll see and know His true face. We will find out one day everything we want to know, and I look forward to that very much. There's nothing in this life we'll miss because Heaven will be infinitely better. Until then, it's wonderful to wonder! 😁
I imagine him ( in heaven as ALWAYS) not needing to move, but VERY comfortable, then I think of things that might be fun for ANYONE. All ideas fall short. Someone who always has been and will ever be the same (an idea I LOVE). There has to be something. Can't be at others' expense, can't be wasteful or destructive (I'm guessing, though infinity makes waste a moot issue). He can have everything EXACTLY as he wants it to be. SO what is fun when you have that? I wonder!
THANKS again. You help make me know what God's love IS. Peace be with you. Happy Thanksgiving!
Thanks. Yeah but, Esau (in the FIRST Earth age) was uninterested in his heritage. In the second Earth age (present) he sold his inheritance for soup. God KNEW his way.
I'm not saying salvation isn't open to EVERYONE (including Satan). I'm saying they CHOSE their course. People who choose without knowing have the millennium to figure it out. People who CHOSE before (Satan, Esau, et al) are (unknown reason) destined for SEGREGATION (at least, I don't know what "blotting out" means specifically except for OUR perception of it...no MEMORY of them).
Hence the kenites, the tares, the bad figs...I might be one...I'm repenting (ORDEAL) though.
Jacob got screwed...But leah bore MOST of Israel's (Jabob's) tribe. So THAT makes me think that just because I don't LIKE something doesn't mean it's not for the BEST!
Jacob was CHOSEN (most aren't) so he got the breaks.
Esau cried to Isaac (dad), NOT to God. WRONG move, after CHOSING to squander his inheritance (first born).
It's simple, but also sophisticated, that's what makes if BEAUTIFUL to me. BEYOND me. BETTER than me.
I'm thinking I LOVE you. First friend (maybe?) I've had SINCE I repented! I feel like I just encountered someone, for the FIRST time, in a forest, I've been wandering in. that looks friendly to me.
I'm never one to turn down friends. ☺ Just don't let your emotions carry you down the river and confuse the relief of peace you feel with something magical about me. I'm just a regular joe (jane?). It's just I remember how that confusion feels. I even still feel that myself from time to time, God knows I stumble constantly. 😒 I'm happy I was able to be a blessing for you in some way, that's a blessing to me as well! 😁
I'm not. I'm just THANKFUL that I'm getting to exchange ideas with someone like you. OKAY? I'm not a wacko sort. Just a lost soul...who has, until now, NOT found a person who doesn't think I'm a wacko for this thing I've undertaken (salvation)...and doesn't want to USE me to "help" (GIVE ME MONEY) others.
You are a BRIGHT light in my opinion. Stumbliing is NOT an issue.
I think God may be about to BLAST you with a blessing (let me know when it happens). He probably shoved you into my path.
You know it's ALL God, not us. WE just want what HE wants right? You know that. Remember if you get hit by a bus, that God just REWARDED you with a lighter sentence, I cannot imagine a reason why God would want to hurt you at this point despite your failings. Though, Who knows?
Anyway, MUCH love to you. God's will to you. You have been helpful. If God doesn't hate me, then you're probably not going to get punished for this. I'm REALLY trying. It's my ONLY hope now (in mortal life). Hope to see you on the other side (the good side of the gulf). I'm not sure that I'm worthy, but if not, I'm FINE with working it out in the millennium rule (1000 years) after Christ's return. I just hope I'm not stuck with dealing with the REALY evil sorts for 1000 years!
Just blow their brains out. I'll volunteer for that duty for free. And I would have to take a number after the families of the and the victims themselves.
This is directly related to child sex trafficking and not the elite, but it's relevant to PG as this is a record-breaking sentence for human trafficking. The man, who was part of a group sexually trafficking children, was charged today with a long, long list of crimes related to child sexually abusive activity, and he was sentenced to 472 years in prison.
It is possible he could be tied to the elite in some way. The covens are connected together in a network. He could be tied to one.
Makes sense - when you put up shop you will certainly have to deal with others who're already in the business (and who might not like what you are up to). In Italy, the Nigerian mafia successfully tried to rival the old Italian mafia factions (trafficking women and possibly children from Africa to Italy).
They are said to have been accepted by the old mafia in certain areas, but have to give them their share.
So you need someone who 'protects' you and approves of what you're doing higher up.
▼ pipilongstockings
So now we the people get to house and feed him until he dies. Maybe wont be too long considering what they do to child rapists in the big house. Im all for the instant death sentence.
▼ FritzTheKat
the bastard will probably be out in 150 for good behavior..
▼ Rigg5
I'm just waiting for the mods to tell us why this isn't Pizzagate related
▼ sLnTsRvC
Any sentence over 100 years should come with an automatic death penalty.
▼ FuckYourSafespace
I agree. Lop their dick off, let them live for a year, then put a bullet in their Brian.
▼ Whizwit21
Now there's a sex change I can get behind
No pun intended
▼ FuckYourSafespace
Hahahaha. Ba-dum tiss
▼ migratorypatterns
Better. But if this were in California, you know they'd give him a week that includes yoga sessions and a Scientology indoctrination just so they'd be sure to make good use of his kind of evil when the seven days is up.
▼ 3141592653
yoga + scientology = lofl
▼ novictim
I think that this sort of crime should garner a death penalty verdict. Do you really want any of these evil assholes back out in the community ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE? Of course not. So why house and feed and cloth their useless carcasses?
▼ 3141592653
I would want them dead too, but death penalty actually ends up costing more in the end than even full life in prison, due to all the years of appeals, etc.
▼ pipilongstockings
No appeals when it comes to this kind of crime. Go straight to firing squad from the court ruling. Children are ruined or dead because of this, why should abusers get to live?
▼ novictim
That is the trotted out claim by those against the death penalty. I have not seen or run the numbers myself but I won't take their calculation on faith. And if true, it is a solvable problem. There is no law of nature that says that the cost of a death penalty case are higher than the cost of housing and feeding and clothing and SECURING them til death by natural causes.
▼ FuckYourSafespace
Death penalty. It needs to be changed so that they just execute them. They clearly proved guilt. That part is over.
▼ tarnished_spoons
Appeals are a contention that guilt was not proven. So you still have to deal with that.
▼ FuckYourSafespace
Oh ok. My main concern is them avoiding their execution with countless costly appeals or something.
▼ tarnished_spoons
It is inevitable. We either allow criminals to abuse the system or abolish due process. Neither is desirable but one is worse than the other.
▼ FuckYourSafespace
Yeah that's true. I've always agreed with that ideology and argued for it. But holy shit is it frustrating sometimes.
▼ Greenzero86
He's just the pawn. The psychopaths would never set up a precedent for death.
▼ Tetr4gr4mm4ton
COLLECTIVE EFFORT TO FIND DELETED BREADCRUMBS/THREADS on 4CHAN Cannot make new thread -- not enough points?
I HAVE DATA!!!
Maybe I can help..not sure. I wanted to save threads on 4chan just in case. 6th NOVEMBER! Tested grabbing of whole website with HTTRACK ....it started following thousands of links....it grabbed like 80.000k in files and x number of threads....TOTAL 16GIB...grabbed for 10 hours...maybe I can help? how? new to 4chan.... lost in data...lol
I started grabbing at CBTS ~#100...so followed mostly Q related.It was start of grab...so thread 1-100 should be covered!?
according to (( https://voat.co/v/CalmBeforeTheStorm/2249129 "4chan mods are editing the thread posts")) Threads are getting messed with,.....and I also realized that important threads got deleted several minutes after creation. I guess not all where archived? Do archives get also messed with? please explain!!!
I am not the only one who has live grabbed websites, and we should coordinate a upload of all the data and
START LOOKING FOR THE DELETED STUFF!!
I am new to 4chan,....so sorry if this is stupid suggestion,...and EVERYTHING got already archived somewhere. I got no clue how this forum stuff works.....my INTUITION showed me 4chan the first time on 1st November. since then I read everyday...but still new to this stuff. But I am here on voat from start of pizzagate...read only mode.
So I am eager to learn,...and/or help to setup this shit... Do archives get also messed with? please explain!!!
▼ Narcissism
HTtrack won't grab everything I.e non index pages. So worth checking for them and grabbing them just in case.
▼ 2impendingdoom
If a post has a comment by derram, that is both a person and an auto archiving bot. So yes, some posts get associated links automatically archived.
Not sure how 4chan works so stay over at https://voat.co/v/CalmBeforeTheStorm for more info on that.
ps, welcome to pizzagate as a commenter. finally.
▼ 3141592653
so half human, half android?
▼ 2impendingdoom
borg...
▼ thebearfromstartrack
I BET there are ZERO kids involved from conservative families. ALL are the spawn of "liberal" parasites (single moms, welfare, etc). Right? It's called CONSEQUENCES people. Liberal policies spawn all manner of horrific downstream consequences.
▼ 3141592653
just no.
▼ thebearfromstartrack
Is this how you go through life? You actually think I would CALL you on a phone?
▼ 3141592653
ummm I think you're responding to the wrong person
▼ thebearfromstartrack
Did you LOOK at the message chain? Which exists. I AM "thebearfromstartrack". Is that whom you are attempting to speak with? Is this Reese WItherspoon? Would you PLEASE stop bugging me? It was ONE kiss. I know you were happy and seeing skyrockets and shit, but you are WAY too stupid and stinky for someone like me.
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
Are you on drugs? 😏
▼ thebearfromstartrack
Have you CALLED the phone number?
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
I have better things to do.
▼ thebearfromstartrack
What things? Can I do them to? I JUST want a better life.
▼ 2impendingdoom
Conservative isn't necessarily the same as rich elite oligarchy families. And some of those, the kids can end up pretty messed up. I've met a fair share and there very often suicides and drug addicts among them. For example, Anderson (Vanderbilt) Cooper's brother threw himself out a window for reasons I don't know. I'm not suggesting we be lenient to criminals but I'm thinking that criminals or evil people sometimes hurt the people closest to them the most.
▼ thebearfromstartrack
DId I SAY it was?
There are CRIMINAL rich people. THey are NOT conservatives, though they might WEAR that (affectation) like a sheep costume (Hillary/Bill Clinton). Evil is ALWAYS disquised. Obama isn't even a nigger, he just LOOKS like one.
▼ 2impendingdoom
I'm absolutely certain that a lot of CONSERVATIVES are criminals too. Not really sure your point. But blaming one party over another is a divisive tactic that won't fly in this subverse.
▼ thebearfromstartrack
Not the way I define conservatism. You seem to be unable to distinguish (you're not a true Christian then) between them. Fake conservatives are not conservatives JUST LIKE fake Christians are NOT Christians (and WILL be shown the door, when they trot up to Jesus all happy with themselves). It's not an affectation (LOT's of people USE it that way). Just like nigger is not JUST about skin color.
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
Conservative here. It's never that simple. It's about good and evil, not conservative/liberal. Also, you may be confusing liberalism with radical leftists. Some of the greatest minds in history have been liberal thinkers. Liberal is relative, as is conservative. You can be a conservative Muslim and think it is ok to slice off a girl's private parts, or a liberal Democrat that advocates for zero restrictions on abortion. But yes, we are definitely reaping what we've sown for the past forty or fifty (more?) years and the harvest is quite rotten. Someone did a study that basically linked all kinds of downward social trends to the year that the supreme court of the U.S. took the daily morning prayer out of public schools...Satan really scored a victory that year. He'll score another one when "In God We Trust" is removed from our money.
▼ novictim
I upvoated you for your sentiment but I don't think your comment above is anything more than just another symptom of the cause. The CAUSE is Communists/Cultural Marxists and the damaging blitzkrieg of Post Modernism. We have been losing the battle of ideas because we have failed to recall our own history and the values that represent the Enlightenment.
Jesus was arguably the most important Enlightenment thinker but the Roman Church buried his ideas and truths under a pile of Latin Prayers and Rituals. It took Martin Luther, the next most significant Enlightenment catalyst, to unearth the core and fundamental notions that underpin the Christian ethos. That was 5 centuries ago. And then, of course, you have the others who synthesize the political implications of the Message of Jesus and others, like Spinoza, who distill elements of this fundamental message. Thomas Paine and John Locke take the argument to the political leadership and voila! , the notions of democracy and Tolerance bulldoze the corrupt power structures that kept everyone subjugated for centuries.
But now we are in a vacuum of forgetting and the Critical Theorists have entered this space as though the younger generation were Tabula Rasa, free of all prior wisdom. And that is not wrong. The System of Education has been captured as have the MSM outlets. What is needed is for the irrefutable arguments of the past that created the Enlightenment to make a brand new debut. So far, there is little sign that this is happening except from a few speakers like Jordan Peterson, folks that rarely are allowed a platform.
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
I feel like it's splitting hairs either way. I could argue that the abolition of school prayer gave Satan the "in" he needed for said Marxism to gain a foothold, but I don't have a magical window into the realm of the spirit. I just think it's an awfully strong coincidence if the statistics are valid. I've always been taught that "the prayer of a righteous man availeth much" and "whatsoever ye ask in Christ's name", etc. In short, prayer is nothing to shrug at. I truly believe the gains being made today are a result of MANY prayers and without CONTINUED prayer, repentance, faith in God, what we are seeing is but a brief respite...
And yes, Jordan Peterson is pretty great! 👍
▼ novictim
But the time sequence is wrong. The Marxists came in first and then the Prayer (and notions of patriotism and national pride) went out the window due to indoctrination in the schools and colleges. And don't forget the admonition of Christ to not pray on the Street Corner (eg Don't demonstrate you virtue to be seen as virtuous. Just be Virtuous!). Praying in a school seems like:
1) Praying on the street corner
2) An industrialization of prayer and
3) Public Schools are not Churches and public school Prayer led by the paid staff on school time is a violation of the separation of Church and State. Trust me. You DO NOT WANT the government to be endorsing a branch of Christianity or opening that door for any other religion. We can all pray or not pray in our own way. The Creator is not housed in a cube in Mecca and requires you to face him with geographical precision and pray at particular times and manner!
Hey, I hope your Thanksgiving is with a happy and healthy family and good cheer all around!
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
I never said God was housed in any cube in Mecca or required us to face it while we pray? Prayer in schools was still reverence to the authority of our creator, and one need not all believe in the exact same things about God to ask Him for the things we surely all want from Him. And think of the psychological effect of removing that daily reverence to something greater than ourselves. While I do see your point about government mandated anything, it went on in our schools for 200 years...and I would not in good conscience be able to argue that things have improved since that time. :) But you make some good points.
Thank you for the well wishes! I hope the same for you! 😊
▼ novictim
Of course you didn't! You are not a benighted human being who subscribed to Islam and the lies of Mohammad. So, awesome person, you missed the point I was making. That is my bad. What I was trying to emphasize is that, unlike Islam, Christians can pray anywhere, at anytime, and yet expect their creator to hear their words. So "School Prayer" is no more sacrosanct to a Christian than is praying in private while making widgets at a factory. But for Muslims, they have created necessities and places and times as being sacrosanct and become enraged when their dogma is not catered to.
It is a valid concern. I think you are correct I am a nonbeliever (I don't believe in magic of any kind) but I am also an ardent appreciator of Jesus Christ. And it is important to the survival of our culture to value and teach the core Judeo-Christian story and meaning to the youth. And we need to teach the scientific method and the skeptic mindset. From those starting points, the individual can assemble their world view grounded in Western Thought. Currently, neither of those foundations are taught and so education in the USA and the West has become "hallowed" out (excuse the pun).
Again, I hope your THANKSGIVING is super-duper! Ta'
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
It is! I'm also super duper stuffed. Dessert will have to wait. 😵
▼ thebearfromstartrack
When I'm being "racist" I'm speaking in GENERAL, not absolutes. I KNOW it's now that simple. What you are explaining to me, is what I already am aware of. I'm speaking to the overarching effect on EVERYONE.
Speaking of Satan, it probably wasn't a good idea to allow mainstream protestant churches to STOP teaching the Bible (chapter by chapter and verse by verse) and START social (anti poverty) activism...This is WOMEN who are SUPPOSED to shut the fuck up in church.
ALSO, not a good idea to have them teach that everyone is EQUAL,,,,GIVEN (Bible) the WARNINGS about kenites, tares, BAD figs.
The Key of David is "real" and it DOES close doors that CANNOT be reopened and OPEN doors that CANNOT be closed to those who possess it.
Mortal life is DIFFICULT until you HAVE that key.
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
I cannot ABIDE the way you CAPITALIZE various words at RANDOM as if this will cause the READER to be more easily INFLUENCED somehow. Also, I'm guilty of cursing when I get angry sometimes, heaven knows, God forgive me... but it's not expedient or Christ-like to drop f-bombs or racial slurs while spreading the message of God. Neither are they kind. Can you imagine Jesus calling people niggers? Does that fit with what you know of the savior of mankind? No? Then stop doing it and stop defending it! As for this stuff about the Key of David...I've only heard of Solomon's Key. As you may know, he was the son of David and a King of Israel, and he dabbled in witchcraft, idolatry, adultery, and lead Israel astray. I'll not be messing around with his grimoires of demons, thank you. As far as women being forbidden to speak in church, I'm not sure how this is even relevant top the topic at hand but since you brought it up...you will not find any God fearing house of Christian worship that requires total silence of women. Strong cases can be made against women holding positions of authority over men in the church (Yes I'm a woman and I do believe that is what the Bible teaches!) but the verse you are referring to is generally thought to be about women disrupting the service by asking questions because they struggled with the language. They were told to be quiet during the sermon and ask their husbands at home. 😌 Smh.....
▼ thebearfromstartrack
You THINK it's RANDOM. Do you know what random MEANS? The BIBLE uses caps to emphasize.
It's like cussing. Should I not use offensive language (to you) either?
Jesus said "GET AWAY FROM ME, I NEVER KNEW YOU"....God hated Esau (IN THE WOMB).
Stop hating EVIL? You MUST be evil yourself.
The Key of David is the genetic lineage (and lifestyles) of Christ. YOUR faith OPENS AND closes doors.
"Strong" cases. SHEESH. I SUSPECTED you were a woman. You have a JOB. I'ts an IMPORTANT job. DO IT CORRECTLY. MEN do what men MUST do. It is NOT pleasant. EVIL makes it LOOK glamorous. It is NOT something we LIKE to do. We are following the LAW.
Keep the KIDS...and STOP being ungrateful. Your role IS important, but it's NOT on the FRONT lines. Mistakes WILL be made, YOU are NOT the correction.
I JUST want what is CORRECT. (just so you know). I DETEST power and responsibility. I would PREFER to be a LOVED CHILD of a WOMAN. That is NOT reality.
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
You are rambling and incoherent. I don't think YOUR place is on the front lines. Because....well, you don't make a lick of sense. shrug Bye!
▼ thebearfromstartrack
God sends strong delusions to the unbeliever to keep you out of our hair. I plant a seed, I move on. I'm not here to drag you kicking in screaming into heaven.
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
I don't need your help to get there. Jesus saves, not you.
▼ thebearfromstartrack
I wonder if God actually hates me sometimes. You? I NEVER hear from him directly, even just to see if he hates me? I pray for death. I don't get it. Still I study. I'm NOT trying to con God, but maybe I just have no clue what sincerity IS? I try and I try. Since I was saved, my life has been turned upside down. I see evil where I didn't before, and goodness where I thought evil WAS before!
I wish I were dead. Either way, God hates me, or God loves me....seems like I'm so insignificant, there should be NO problem...an insignificant IMPROVEMENT in the universe in fact. I don't get it. God wants me humble. I'm HUMBLE. I'm an IDIOT. I don't GET it. I just want ETERNAL PEACE! Let's get started!
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
No I don't think God hates me. Quite the contrary. You have to learn to be quiet and listen to His voice when your thoughts get turbulent. Read your Bible. Pray. Meditate on His goodness. Let your heart be broken and made anew. When I strayed away from God, I did so for about a decade. Coming back was not as easy as snapping my fingers. He does everything in His own way and time. I did not give up on wanting to feel that blessed assurance. I begged for God to do whatever it took for Him to get it through my thick skull! I realize now He was teaching me patience. I feel a lot more confident about Him now than I ever did when I was a new Christian. Remember Satan hates you and wants you to fail, but God is higher and stronger. He can't separate you from the Father, all Satan can do is give you temporary doubts but if you have Christ in your heart your place in eternity is already reserved and there is nothing that old devil can do it. That said, we can never obtain that peaceful knowledge in THIS life if we aren't obeying His will. God is loving but he does NOT spare the rod from His wayward children. If you're feeling the rod, examine what is going on. That may be His way of trying to correct you. No offense meant. All God's children feel that feeling, so don't think I'm preaching. God bless you!
▼ thebearfromstartrack
Thanks for the fertilizer and the watering.
Yeah I heard if God doesn't punish you, he doesn't care about you, and he doesn't care about everyone.
Anyway, I'm still a "baby" in the word (Hebrews says get PAST that). I don't even know if the messages (prayers for wisdom, protection from evil, guidance, support, etc) I get are from God or somewhere evil (opportunity for it). I just know EVERYTHING is different now and I feel LOST a lot, but I'm NOT quitting, since I REALIZE it's the ONLY thing worth HOPING for (salvation and eternal life WITHOUT the presence of evil!).
Anyway thanks again. I would say "God bless you" but I don't know if I have that kind of pull, and might get pounded for that. So I say, God's will to you, it's probably good given what I think I've learned about you.
Do you ever wonder what God does for fun? Does he even have fun?
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
Of course you can say God bless you! 😁 Thank you. God's will is perfect so thank you for that too. Stay strong, be of good cheer, and be patient with yourself. God knows what you are going through and He ABSOLUTELY loves you. He loves the world, but He doesn't force Himself on it.
I do wonder that! Lol. I do think God has a spirit of playfulness, because His creation does. What does God do for fun? Well for starters I think he creates for His own enjoyment. The "original" artist, you could say. Beyond that, I can only speculate, but the Bible says we will one day worship Him "in spirit and in truth" and we'll see and know His true face. We will find out one day everything we want to know, and I look forward to that very much. There's nothing in this life we'll miss because Heaven will be infinitely better. Until then, it's wonderful to wonder! 😁
▼ thebearfromstartrack
You are helping. I actually feel better now.
I imagine him ( in heaven as ALWAYS) not needing to move, but VERY comfortable, then I think of things that might be fun for ANYONE. All ideas fall short. Someone who always has been and will ever be the same (an idea I LOVE). There has to be something. Can't be at others' expense, can't be wasteful or destructive (I'm guessing, though infinity makes waste a moot issue). He can have everything EXACTLY as he wants it to be. SO what is fun when you have that? I wonder!
THANKS again. You help make me know what God's love IS. Peace be with you. Happy Thanksgiving!
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
You as well! 😊
▼ thebearfromstartrack
Eucalyptus spearmint...SO refreshing INVOLUNTARILY!
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
http://jesusalive.cc/ques33.htm By the way you spoke of God hating Esau... so I couldn't resist showing you this... ;)
▼ thebearfromstartrack
Thanks. Yeah but, Esau (in the FIRST Earth age) was uninterested in his heritage. In the second Earth age (present) he sold his inheritance for soup. God KNEW his way.
I'm not saying salvation isn't open to EVERYONE (including Satan). I'm saying they CHOSE their course. People who choose without knowing have the millennium to figure it out. People who CHOSE before (Satan, Esau, et al) are (unknown reason) destined for SEGREGATION (at least, I don't know what "blotting out" means specifically except for OUR perception of it...no MEMORY of them).
Hence the kenites, the tares, the bad figs...I might be one...I'm repenting (ORDEAL) though.
Jacob got screwed...But leah bore MOST of Israel's (Jabob's) tribe. So THAT makes me think that just because I don't LIKE something doesn't mean it's not for the BEST!
Jacob was CHOSEN (most aren't) so he got the breaks.
Esau cried to Isaac (dad), NOT to God. WRONG move, after CHOSING to squander his inheritance (first born).
It's simple, but also sophisticated, that's what makes if BEAUTIFUL to me. BEYOND me. BETTER than me.
I'm thinking I LOVE you. First friend (maybe?) I've had SINCE I repented! I feel like I just encountered someone, for the FIRST time, in a forest, I've been wandering in. that looks friendly to me.
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
I'm never one to turn down friends. ☺ Just don't let your emotions carry you down the river and confuse the relief of peace you feel with something magical about me. I'm just a regular joe (jane?). It's just I remember how that confusion feels. I even still feel that myself from time to time, God knows I stumble constantly. 😒 I'm happy I was able to be a blessing for you in some way, that's a blessing to me as well! 😁
▼ thebearfromstartrack
I'm not. I'm just THANKFUL that I'm getting to exchange ideas with someone like you. OKAY? I'm not a wacko sort. Just a lost soul...who has, until now, NOT found a person who doesn't think I'm a wacko for this thing I've undertaken (salvation)...and doesn't want to USE me to "help" (GIVE ME MONEY) others.
You are a BRIGHT light in my opinion. Stumbliing is NOT an issue.
I think God may be about to BLAST you with a blessing (let me know when it happens). He probably shoved you into my path.
You know it's ALL God, not us. WE just want what HE wants right? You know that. Remember if you get hit by a bus, that God just REWARDED you with a lighter sentence, I cannot imagine a reason why God would want to hurt you at this point despite your failings. Though, Who knows?
Anyway, MUCH love to you. God's will to you. You have been helpful. If God doesn't hate me, then you're probably not going to get punished for this. I'm REALLY trying. It's my ONLY hope now (in mortal life). Hope to see you on the other side (the good side of the gulf). I'm not sure that I'm worthy, but if not, I'm FINE with working it out in the millennium rule (1000 years) after Christ's return. I just hope I'm not stuck with dealing with the REALY evil sorts for 1000 years!
Anyway,,, much love tio you, and THANKS again!
▼ 3141592653
High five
▼ thebearfromstartrack
Be QUIET Reese.
▼ Grunge
Just say life with no possible out.
▼ 3141592653
they definitely do not deserve to be breathing
▼ Beast-mode-freak
Well, if he maintains good behaviour he can get out in 236 yrs.
▼ ESOTERICshade
roflmao
▼ 3141592653
lofl
▼ ToFat2Fish
472 years is retarded and in no way makes the punishment worse. It should just be life with weakly waterboarding sessions.
▼ novictim
Just blow their brains out. I'll volunteer for that duty for free. And I would have to take a number after the families of the and the victims themselves.
▼ Whizwit21
Shoot him in the dick first
▼ Chiken-lover_Hater
It should be life plus the ball-beating that Bond receives in Casino Royale with a knotted rope.
▼ think-
What about 500 years for Hillary? :-P
▼ The_Savant
One day she'll be sentenced to eternity in burning sulfur, don't you worry.
▼ 3141592653
This is directly related to child sex trafficking and not the elite, but it's relevant to PG as this is a record-breaking sentence for human trafficking. The man, who was part of a group sexually trafficking children, was charged today with a long, long list of crimes related to child sexually abusive activity, and he was sentenced to 472 years in prison.
▼ ESOTERICshade
It is possible he could be tied to the elite in some way. The covens are connected together in a network. He could be tied to one.
▼ 3141592653
I agree
▼ think-
Makes sense - when you put up shop you will certainly have to deal with others who're already in the business (and who might not like what you are up to). In Italy, the Nigerian mafia successfully tried to rival the old Italian mafia factions (trafficking women and possibly children from Africa to Italy).
They are said to have been accepted by the old mafia in certain areas, but have to give them their share.
So you need someone who 'protects' you and approves of what you're doing higher up.
▼ 3141592653
good point
▼ carmencita
Yes! I think the ones that are of measurable size have to be connected in some way. They are part of the rat lines.
▼ 3141592653
yup, just like someone must've known about that sick Olympics dr.
▼ carmencita
This is a Great Thanksgiving Gift. Thank The Lord. We should all pray for More Justice for the Children during Grace.
▼ 3141592653
can't wait to see what our Christmas gift's gonna be!
▼ carmencita
The Downfall of Disney?
▼ 3141592653
wouldn't that be wonderful
▼ carmencita
It is my dream :)
▼ argosciv
Holy fucking shit...
Cop that you fucker!