It is not a coordinated effort to do anything other than question that one fact. If by questioning that one fact, it casts the entirety of PG into doubt for you, then perhaps it should!

But, that was not the intent.

The intent was to make it plain that assertions do not make facts. Wild speculations do not makes facts. Truth is not just someone's Youtube channel fairy-tale.

The truth has to have more behind it than what someone simply claims.

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What led to my post?

I watched the interview with JP that was just posted. The comments were all pretty lined up with "Look, he's lying. See how nervous he is. See you can tell he is guilty."

And I got to thinking:

What would an INNOCENT person look like under the situation?

Well, the guy's life has been pretty destroyed over PG, Just go to his Twitter and verify that.

True of NOT true, he has sufferered enormously with these "allegations".

So, would an innocent person be angry, nervous, agitated and defensive potentially?

Sure would.

Does that make him innocent? No.

But ASSUMING he is guilty because he is UPSET about this, doesn't make him guilty!

Who WOULDN"T be upset? The guy has been tarred and feathered.

What got ME upset, is that I pretty much concluded that the 14 and fish photo narrative was total B.S. and when I tried to alert people of that, I was tarred and feathered myself.

So, it did not invalidate may of the questions and concerns I have surrounding the totality of PG, it did make me wonder if I'd been a witness to something that was unsavory and perhaps I'd been trolled into beleiving some things that may not be as clear as they were represented to be.

I can find no excuse for the Insta accounts and the bands and creepy as fuck shit out there. Something is at the very best vile here, but there are also "so-called" facts that have been used to create wild fairy tales and the conflation of both facts and fairy tales needs attentions.

We must be able to separate facts and fairy-tales.

Though I admit that is HARD to do, it simply must be attempted, else we get a predetermined result and end up with a witch-hunt in an internet kangaroo court. That is not a place I want my soul to be.

I also do not want my soul to overlook truth's that require my attention for love's purposes to be served.

I am not here to manufacture either guilt or innocence.

I am here to try and help determine guilt or innocence and that is a very different posture than defending facts that are often much too easily explained and too thin to be used as a weapon.

Don't be a jerk.

Talk about a diversion. Apparently, questioning one fact is tantamount to denying all of PG?

That's pretty sad.

I made a specific post. You should note all of the strategies used to attack what I had to say.

They are all pretty manipulative, such as yours.

If the strength of your belief can be rattled so easily by my posing a question about one fact, then it ought concern you. Stick with this: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/oceans/

Was the 14 and the Fish something more nefarious or was it merely a reference to the U.N's 14th climate sustainability goal AS it was directly purported to be, on JP's orignal tweet, whererin the pic appeared?

My concern -- is that it may simply have been what it was purported to be. A Tweet to promote the agenda of protecting the ocean's.

Amazing the hornet's nest I stirred up over a fairly benign question.

I addressed this one fact, because it has been used SO frequently to harangue the guy.

If you look at all of the other facts in the thread you posted. exactly how many of them have to do with JP?

Can we be real for a minute?

How good to you think your Cell Phone service would be in your under-ground, subterranean, "Torture Chamber".

Oh wait, hold on just a moment. I just cut off your left left, but hold on, I have a call to make.

"Oh yes, I'm still in the torture chamber."

That is patently ridiculous.

It is JUST A PHRASE to mean "Yeah, still under some stress here, or things still shitty, or still in the grind or blah, blah, blah."

To take that LITERALLY is easy to do, but what are the odds that someone IN a torture chamber is going to be sending that message out from within the torture chamber.

It is stuff like that that makes some of this just nutty to me.

OTHER stuff does NOT appear so nutty. Artwork, bands, insta's, etc, but some of this IS beyond ludicrous.