pizzaequalspedo

LOL

tech-adm

The photo was an original attachment in the Podesta Emails which are 100% authentic. My Shill radar is sending up red flags.

CantStopCrying

Your shill radar needs calibration.

It was directly posted on JP's OWN Twitter. I personally scrolled back and back and back and back about 4 months ago and found it there from much earlier, and it related specifically to this:

http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

I've been trying to clear the record on it for months only to be deleted, shamed and shill-shocked out of existence.

That pic is a load of B.S.

The mythology around it is legendary.

It is disgraceful that that pic has survived this long.

Someone go and scroll through his Twitter until you find it. Assuming he has not deleted it and prove me wrong. Good luck.

tech-adm

You're claiming it was photoshopped - the original attachment here https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/39999 has the 14 fish symbols. The intent behind the symbols is open for debate but the pic is genuine as it came right from his leaked emails which you clan see for yourself.

CantStopCrying

Wake up:

The original pic with the 14 and the fish was posted directly on JP's personal Twitter feed!

It has been obnoxiously and fraudulently misrepresented over and over.

It simply referred to this: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/oceans/

Note the 14 and the fish.

Wow.

The 14 and the fish.

Here is is again: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/

All you need to do is scroll down his Twitter feed, if he has not deleted it and you will find it IN CONTEXT for what it meant.

On the matter of this pic, we have been TROLLED and many have re-purposed it to troll others.

https://twitter.com/johnpodesta

Total scam.

VivianMcGloob

That's like connecting this tweet just because people tagged it with #TeamBluePlanet https://twitter.com/dannydutch/status/779618842884575233?lang=en

VivianMcGloob

No it wasn't lol

CantStopCrying

Do the homework and go find it for yourself.

If he has not deleted it, it is right in his own feed: https://twitter.com/johnpodesta

I personally found it myself and I've been here since Reddit days.

VivianMcGloob

Lies.

CantStopCrying

What part?

WhoWhatWhere

This is now the second thread in a few hours where someone is debunking JP fish/hand picture. Why the push all of a sudden....hmmmm?

CantStopCrying

I was the original one. I have no connection to this one, but find it fortuitous.

The 14 and the fish pic needs to be re-thought.

It refers to this:

Look at #14: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

and came directly from here: https://twitter.com/johnpodesta

And insofar as I can tell has been used as a truth weapon of mass destruction over and over.

It alone was most likely a huge ruse and it is cause for disturbance, due to how frequently it is deployed.

HugoWeaving

All you need to do is provide the DATE of the original posting on Podesta's Twitter and we can verify this once and for all. The burden of proof, however, lies on you now because you claim to be the original one. End this charade.

Find the original pic, provide the date and time, and we will find it on his Twitter history page.

Until then, the questions remain...

CantStopCrying

I don't know how to search Twitter. All I did was keep scrolling back and back and back on his page. Twitter is bogging down and I can't get before Feb 18 2016.

It is BEFORE that date.

If your computer is NOT slow and Twitter is NOT bogging down, search for it.

This is all I did originally to find it. It was there and 100% tied to:

http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

It was a PUBLICITY stunt for: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

Look too!

HugoWeaving

So what is your claim again?

  • That the fish and 14 were photoshopped onto his hands?
  • That he posted a picture without this symbols?
  • Or that people have incorrectly associated that pic with pizzagate when in fact it was referring to something else?

I will share my findings when I understand what you are claiming.

CantStopCrying

My claim is that JP posted that image HIMSELF (or someone did using his Twitter account.)

The symbols WERE drawn on already in his own post and it was something cute to call attention to the UN Climate Goal #14 about Oceans.

It was a publicity tweet!

I personally viewed the image on Twitter almost a year ago, and am trying to get it back again, but can't scroll past Feb 2016. Twitter keeps locking up. I'm guessing it was posted in 2015 sometime.

I had another account and told this to people and was just shamed off the site over it. What I'm saying is true.

If you are good at Twitter and know of a way to search, assuming he has not deleted it, you will find it yourself.

The pic has been passed around with the origin stripped away.

It was merely for this: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

Look at 14 and the fish.

Prove me wrong.

In short: JP's twitter account posted that pic on twitter. WITH the symbols drawn in to cutely promote #14 this: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

HugoWeaving

I agree with your claim then. I did the research myself. This is where I stand (with the evidence publicly available):

  1. John Podesta wrote on his own hands a 14 and a fish - NOT photoshopped.
  2. He attached it to one of his Wikieaked emails, with the symbols on it. -- Whether it was on Twitter or not is really irrelevant.
  3. It likely relates to the specific UN proposition you linked to -- #14, Save the Oceans.
  4. The picture itself is not PROOF of anything (in particular with ancient symbology)

All that said...

  1. His hands and fingers are clearly damaged / cut up - even the bandaid reveals that.
  2. His connection to people involved in Spirit Cooking is backed up with many sources.
  3. Spirit Cookers reportedly cut their fingers and take chunks of flesh and blood from one's hands.
  4. His close connection with people (you yourself admit) are questionable and disgusting is clear -- JA, for example.

Therefore, the FISH PICTURE cannot be used as evidence of anything beyond the fact that Podesta cut himself (intentionally or not) and that his gross, lanky fingers are hard to look at.

The picture, like all other pictures, emails, comments, etc. are DATA POINTS. Each data point is like a pixel. Individually, when viewed from a far, you see nothing. But when connected to all the other data points, a picture slowly begins to take form.

While you find it necessary to debunk the Fish Photo as "proof" of anything, you should understand that not everyone believes the fictional narrative behind it. It does, however, contain evidence that supports the general belief that JP is a bad, bad man...

CantStopCrying

Found it: https://tweetsave.com/johnpodesta/status/647493788869365762 Relates to ths: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/oceans/

That is the subject of his tweet and all the other UN Goals he highlights around the same timeframe.

CantStopCrying

Good work and THANK YOU. NIce reasoning.

That said:

What evidence does that Fish Photo contain that supports the general belief that JP is a bad, bad man?

and exactly How was that "general belief" established?

I'm concerned, that at least in part, it was established on the basis of wild stories about such things as that very Fish Photo for example, which I'm serving presently to show is total bologna.

If that Fish Photo is bologna and you have 20% of the internet screaming about all the alleged symbolism and he fucks 14 year olds over it, then seriously maybe there is some significant re-thinking to do.

This is why I am pumping the brakes on this issue.

This data point has been used and misused over and over.

If it merely means what it means, then maybe much else does to.

In such a case, what do you really have other than rumors and wild assumptions to back ANY of this with specific regard to him?

CantStopCrying

I'm looking for it. Found it months ago. Not sure how to search Twitter. All I did was scroll back and back and found it. Have tried to alert others. Everyone just shill-shames.

Three things you will see:

1) Many posts about climate concerns 2) And this post itself about the UN Goals 3) And this pic on his own feed!

ConsumateArtist

I personally think it is because the Egyptian symbology would relate directly to Las Vegas.

VivianMcGloob

News has a tendency to do that. Surprised you hadn't noticed before.

AndrewBlazeIt

Member for 2 months

CantStopCrying

I've been here since Reddit.

Check my facts:

The pic came from https://twitter.com/johnpodesta -- It was posted ON HIS ACCOUNT.

It directly related to: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

Look at number 14 and the fish.

See any similarity?

You were schnooked on this one.

AndrewBlazeIt

Member. For. 2. Months.

Prove you've "been here since Reddit," or go find the biggest dick you can, then eat it.

CantStopCrying

Member with this account for 2 months. Been here since Reddit.

AndrewBlazeIt

Member for 21 days

Git ur story straight, mane

CantStopCrying

You're very stupid.

I've been here since Reddit and have had several accounts over time. Not providing an email address has made it easy to forget my passwords and then not be able to recover them.

So, I started again with a new account.

I've been here since Voat started with PG and before that with Reddit.

You saying otherwise is just conjecture and personal fantasy.

So STFU.

Millenial Falcon certainly has a long history deleting my posts. I've been here buddy. I've been here.

AndrewBlazeIt

You responded to this

Member for 2 months

with this

Member with this account for 2 months.

Your account is 21 days old.

So, either you and @VivianMcGloob are the same person, or you are completely full of shit.

CantStopCrying

I just echoed what he said idiot. The key part was "with this account".

I'll state it again.

I was here since Reddit.

I don't post a lot and often forget my passwords in general.

Not having provided an email has meant just creating a new account several times.

Your thinking you know better is just beyond stupid.

Just STFU

AndrewBlazeIt

I was here since Reddit

This sentence makes no sense at all.

Since Reddit... WHAT?

CantStopCrying

If you were here, you'd know that PG started on Reddit and then was taken up at Voat.

I was here since Reddit, as in, from the early days of PG.

Get lost.

AndrewBlazeIt

PG didn't hit the radar until last year. Pizzagate did not start on Reddit. Voat is older than Pizzagate.

You're dumb as a rock.

CantStopCrying

Pizzagate was banned from Reddit. And took up residence here on Voat.

Doh! https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pizzagate%20banned%20on%20reddit

I didn't say Voat wasn't older than Pizzgate.

I said that I followed PG while it was with Reddit. When it was banned there, I followed it here, like everyone else at the time.

Your point is just lost in bogus assumptions.

You're attempting to prove something you can't prove.

Give it up.

You can't possbly convince me that your imagination trumps reality. You're wasting your time.

AndrewBlazeIt

If your account is only 21 days old because you forgot your password, why are you getting so defensive about me questioning that?

Why don't you just tell me what the old account is?

Because you're a fucking liar, that's why.

CantStopCrying

The Google search shows you that PG was once and Reddit and was banned. I was AT Reddit when it happened.

I then came here to Voat to continue following it.

You know knowing this says a lot about whether you should be attacking me or not.

The Google search link was to educate you.

You're outgunned Bud. Give it up.

Go back to the original content of my post or buzz off.

CantStopCrying

Why don't you address the facts of my post before hanging yourself with a stupid noose.

I've addresses your concerns multiple times.

I have had several Voat accounts in the past. At times I came and was so upset by what I read that I left for a while. Then when I could handle more, I'd come back. Since I'd forgotten my password, it was just as easy to make a new account. I've done this several times over time.

You're picking a stupid fight with someone that has a full deck of knowledge about their own history. It is not a fight you can win.

Shall I furnish you with anything at all, it will not settle the argument, because the argument is really about wanting to fight the CONTENT of my post.

The content is what was important.

But, you went with attack the messenger.

Go back to the content of my post and argue that.

Calling me a liar is laughable when you haven't facts to back it up.

You're reading forgetfullness as defensiveness. Wrong read Dude.

AndrewBlazeIt

If your account is only 21 days old because you forgot your password, why are you getting so defensive about me questioning that?

Why don't you just tell me what the old account is?

I'm not just going to take you at your word that you have old Voat accounts if you can't even point to the usernames.

That's like claiming you've read a book, but you can't tell me anything that happened in it.

CantStopCrying

I think you're not listening.

I don't remember.

Forgetfullness < > Defensiveness.

I've had at least three or four of them. WTF is wrong with you?

I could probably go through old threads and find myself in them. I know all the players here. Many know me.

I unfortunately have treated past accounts as disposable as there is no password recovery when you forget your password and didn't provide and email.

I'd have 20 gmail accounts too, it it wasn't for password recovery. And I'd probably have 10 amazon accounts.

Maybe not what I should do, but what I have done.

Why don't you now get back to the original substance of my post?

If I blow 30 minutes and turn up my old usernames, you'll never believe they are mine anyway, because your intention is to shit-post against my valid post about the fish-pic, so I won't appease you further.

A mark of your sincerity might have included anything I said in my posts.

Instead, you just don't have any.

The facts I laid out are easy to follow. If you're interested, you will. If not, you won't.

But the facts won't change merely by your making false accusations against me without a leg to stand on.

I've been here for as long as this and pizzagatewhatever have existed.

So just stop.

AndrewBlazeIt

I've been on Voat since PizzaGate. Lots of the movers and shakers know who I am. But I refuse to provide any evidence of this

But you should believe all the "evidence" I'm providing about something else

CantStopCrying

All you need to do is look at what I claimed.

It is either true or not.

I could be a bot for all you know.

It doesn't change what I wrote:

Podesta's Twitter account hosted the Fish and 14 Pic itself. Even as far back as Nov 2015, he was tweeting about Ocean issues. And further back as well. I'm still searching for original pic. Don't know how to search twitter and it keeps locking up as I scroll back in time. Try it yourself. I'm as far back as Nov 2, 2015:

Tweet: "The mysterious effects of a warming Pacific", but as I try to get to older tweets, it keeps getting stuck.

The fish and 14 pic was related to Climate Advocacy - specifically about protecting the oceans a theme repeated MANY times on his Twitter feed. That and global warming and environment, etc. The pic was to promote: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/ Specifically #14.

If you aren't a lazy moron, you can read Podesta's Twitter feed for yourself and see that Ocean's and environment are big themes for him. If you're patient enough, you may find this pic posted. I've been trying to get the exact date for for last three hours. I shared this months ago and all I got were idiot responses from shitheads like you.

Anything more than that and you're grasping at straws.

Do your homework.

I would have give you the specific date and screenshot of the tweet, but Twitter keeps hanging as I scroll back in time.

AndrewBlazeIt

Do your homework.

Would you say it's.... not your job to educate me?

CantStopCrying

No.

I would say that if you are having a sincere conversation with me, you'd be checking the facts I shared, but since you are not, you won't which is too bad, because if you did, you might learn something useful.

AndrewBlazeIt

Go look on John Podesta's Twitter for this thing that completely exonerates John Podesta

CantStopCrying

Um yes asshole. That's the point. It exonerates that misued pic that has been abused by PG in general.

On Oct 21st, 2015 JP tweeted: "When we stand together there is no limit to what we can achieve." The UN has a plan to change the World.

The Tweet includes this graphic: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

It was around this time that the Pic of the Fish and the 14 was Posted on his Twitter, which I am still trying to call up, but Twitter keeps locking up.

He posted each of the UN Goals one by one, as I recall.

14 was: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/oceans/

Low and behold the 14 and the Fish!

That was the point.

The widely distributed photo is a RUSE. He posted the photo himself to call attention to the 14th UN Initiative.

That was the point. Done here for now.

AndrewBlazeIt

Yep. And "do you think I'll have better luck playing dominos on pasta rather than cheese" is a completely innocent an innocuous thing to say in an email.

CantStopCrying

You're misunderstanding me Andrew.

My post was about one fact that has been widely used to crucify a stranger.

That was all.

If you want to debate ALL of PG, bring it on, but that is not what the purpose of my post was.

If that ONE fact is what your entire belief is rested upon, that IS the point of how dangerous that is!

AndrewBlazeIt

Done here for now

More proof that YOU LIE.

CantStopCrying

Dude -- view this now:

https://tweetsave.com/johnpodesta/status/647493788869365762

I just found it.

Checkmate asshole.

AndrewBlazeIt

Because he couldn't possibly be LYING about that

CantStopCrying

Nice diversionary blame-shift.

Why don't you address the content of my post?

AndrewBlazeIt

Why don't you do the same?

CantStopCrying

Trying to re-find it.

Is there an easy way to search someone's twitter feed without scrolling through the whole thing?

VivianMcGloob

Yes, google Advanced Search Twitter for the control panel. ;)

VivianMcGloob

You will see I am authentic by the consistency of quality in my postage.

ESOTERICshade

You will see I am authentic by the consistency of quality in my postage.

Can't wait. See ya in the deleted submission bin!

VivianMcGloob

"Oh look Mummy a malcontent" "Don't feed it Darling, you wouldn't want to catch general malaise or a bad case of ennui, would you?" "Certainly not." "Leave the creature be then Darling."

ben_matlock

Doubtful. If my memory serves, I believe the pic (w/fish) was found attached to 2 or 3 of the Podesta email chains.

CantStopCrying

It was in JP Twitter itself: and directly referred to this:

Look at #14: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

Kacey

Per rule 3 your submission lacks the clarity of how this relates to Pizzagate.

CantStopCrying

The pic of the fish and the 14 has been widely miscontrued to mean all sorts of truly crazy shit.

It may/may not have had a hidden meaning, but it certainly had an obvious reference:

It was related to this: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

Look at number 14.

The pic was posted directly on JP's own twitter and referred to that.

People used the pic and trolled the rest of us into believing it meant something more.

Fact check it yourself.

VivianMcGloob

Spirit cook out.

Flat_Truth

Or photoshopped off.

VivianMcGloob

The CIA can't photoshop.

Flat_Truth

lol, funny. They have the best CGI artists in the world.... just look at all the photos from the "missions in outer space". Well, they might hire the best... but they really aren't that great. I can see how people bought it ruse 50 years with images on black and white TV, hypnotic music and smooth voice narrating satanic story telling time... but nowadays, looking at some of the stuff they put out from "up in outer space"... its like going to see a Chris Angel show and getting a cheap nightclub act instead. :/