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The Boys Network website is suspicious AF

chabon

Yup.

Narcissism

Franks house is nice, though but a bit unoriginal..

Eggs-Vs-Bacon

The more I look into this, the worse it is. Imagine saying to your wife or your buddy - "I'm going to go hang out with some random teenage boy for Lessons from the Locker Room". Yeah no I'm NEVER saying that. This is all so obvious now. What man wants to spend money on a "luxury adventure" with some strange kid? A pervert, that's who.

chabon

What man wants to spend money on a "luxury adventure" with some strange kid?

Note: It doesn't say, anywhere, that kids will be part of the 'experience' -- but that's definitely the vibe I got from the whole thing. Could my mind be warped by all the research and I'm reading too much into it? Sure. But do I trust my hunch on this anyway? Yes. Too many creepy signals.

Eggs-Vs-Bacon

Well I'm presuming if the kids aren't present, how are they supposed to be "mentored"? If the boys club "adventures" have nothing to do with the boys, why wouldn't a man just... do something else that wasn't through the boys club? So yeah, I think the implication is that these activities are with the boys.

chabon

Ya, most of the activities, of course, are with the boys -- but the Live Auction 'experiences' are marketed as get-aways for "you and your friends." No mention is made of boys being involved specifically with those 'adventures.' But the wording, the remote locations, the people we're dealing with and what we know of their behavior -- all suggests something darker to me.

Eggs-Vs-Bacon

I agree. Also the packages being "friends-friendly" I mean WTF is that? Not family-friendly. Or couple-friendly, like you could bring your girlfriend. It's more like code, bring a friend who can be on the DL. Dunno, just so depressingly and obviously vile, all of it.

chabon

Exactly. That "friends-friendly" hit me like a punch in the gut. Vile is an apt descriptor.

paulieweb

holy f. this might be the real deal....

chabon

Right in plain sight.

Factfinder2

They guarantee secrecy to their mentors: http://boysclubnetwork.com/mentors/

"...these men, behind closed doors and in the guaranteed anonymity of the Boys Club Network sanctum , share their stories and their insight with Boys Club members. They share not only their wisdom and stories of personal struggle, development and success, but also and perhaps most important, they share their definition of what defines and how to become a 'good man' ."

chabon

With Guistra's connections to Clinton -- and likely connections to Geffen and Ari Emanuel from his years at Lionsgate -- he draws people who need guaranteed anonymity.

rickman

"guarenteed anonymity" is like a big hand waving potential abusers in. Don't worry guys, we'll keep you safe.

Factfinder2

This is a great find. Thank you.

Why would a legit boys club choose this photo with this Churchill quote to illustrate their Mentors page? This pic alone is enough to throw suspicion on the whole operation.

https://imgoat.com/uploads/3afdbd66e7/62718.jpg

chabon

Ya. The whole site made me nauseous.

Truthseeker3000

That auction features winning a getaway at Frank Giustra’s personal Whistler retreat... Frank Guistra is the same guy who spoke about mentoring young boys at hockey games and going out to restaurants etc spending time with them. That’s great and all but it’s so odd. The man is very busy why is he spending time with boys, he’s got two kids of his own. This is also the man who had the boy lover symbol used for his El Pida (or el pedo) charity and then it was vanished a day after we spoke out about it on here. Remember the shit eating grin on his face with the other guy in front of it? Sick. Of all the logos u could have used u chose a boy pedo logo, coincidence I’m sure!! This guys got his hands in so many different charity organizations he can’t keep them all straight, boys and refugees are the two things he seems to love. Remember the article where he mentioned how he loves going for walks late at night around the crime ridden drug areas of his hometown? Why? For what reason? So many questions about this guy and it’s not looking good. Especially with his Clinton partnership, really, REALLY bad...

chabon

This whole organization was founded by Guistra and his pals.

I hadn't seen the articles talking about all the things you mention -- but none of them surprise me.

Eggs-Vs-Bacon

Fantastic research! God all that crap gives me the creeps.

Voatwontletmesignin

Have you seen this? Your name comes up as a comment from voat. https://youtu.be/TMdxOngH0UA

Eggs-Vs-Bacon

Not a bad video, glad our discussion got out there. All the credit goes to the CDAN community for solving the blind item though, I had no idea that the boys club existed til I read about it there. All the other stuff - the Elpida logo etc - we already talked about here a year ago. Good to see it all tied together in that.

carmencita

There is a picture at the Mentor Event at the Hotel Georgia, of a Very Decorated Military Officer, I believe may from another country. He has a sash and many many medals and wears a turban. Who is that man! Also notice of how many LE and Sports related Mentors listed. Yes, and you mention the Summer Camp. This is especially worrisome. It is sad that there will be boys coming to hopefully find kind and caring men that want to help these boys succeed, when the boys will end up being abused in many ways. Under the List of Mentors next to Giustra's name, it connects him to the Clintons. Very Incriminating with all of this Evidence, imo.

carmencita

Thank you. I have only one concern and that is his connection to Trudeau, other than that Sikhs are pretty gentle and peaceful people. We will have to see if he shows up with The Boys Club or Giustra again.

chabon

Who is that man!

Wondered that too.

carmencita

Amazing, Right? I am hoping someone will be able to find out. He looks like some really High Up There Royal Saudi General. Maybe some friend of Walleed..

chabon

Found him. And want to say ... maybe there are good people in the organization, too? As cover? I absolutely don't want to cast aspersions on everyone. This is just first pass research.

https://www.sikh24.com/2014/06/30/sikh-war-veteran-gets-canadian-militarys-highest-recognition/#.Wiiy4LaZPrI

carmencita

Sikhs are very gentle and peaceful people. They are many times confused by some as Muslim and some have lashed out at them when thinking they attack Muslims. Neither is right of course. The only think that jumped out at me that worries me is this: Sajjan, who is rumored to be running for the Vancouver South federal Liberal nomination and close to federal Liberal leader Justin Trudeau, is the son of the former member of the World Sikh Organization (WSO) Kundan Singh Sajjan. HIS connection to Trudeau. Other than that though you may be right and yes it is wrong to brand everyone.

chabon

I found many articles praising him in my quick search -- although some say he has fully adopted the liberal, globalist agenda.

This glowing article mentions how he took time to visit with the children in three separate locations: https://www.theworldsikhnews.com/harjit-singh-sajjan-came-saw-conquered-sikh-hearts-spread-cheer/

This is one of the moments I wish I could go back a year and still believe everyone who took an interest in children truly had their best interests at heart.

carmencita

I know. And it is hard reading this stuff all day every day and keep thinking good thoughts about some people. But we have to remember that most people are good. It just gets so hard to know which ones are the bad ones or the good ones.

chabon

I agree completely. Now if we could only get all the good people -- or just enough of them -- to look in a direction they can't, in their innocence, imagine -- we'd root out these weeds.

carmencita

Don't you wonder what made us believe this stuff at the start of it all? I wonder why I kept reading and did not stop, why I did not say, this is disgusting so I just can't think about it, and would walk away. I guess there must be some kind of gene that we have, but don't know what it is. All I know is that knowing what I know now, I just can't step away. I also know, being on here every day, that there are so many more that will never walk away as well. That is part of what keeps me going. And the children.

chabon

I do wonder about this. My current inner understanding is that we've accepted certain spiritual gifts/responsibilities: to be able to become more deeply rooted in Faith and carry the Light of Truth into the blackest corners of this world. And yes, I know not everyone here considers themselves a Believer, but (laughing) they certainly are devoting themselves to Truth and Light and Good -- so, since they are not against Him, they are for Him, however they understand it for themselves. And I wholly appreciate all who are willing to sincerely undertake this work for the children, and for what this world could be.

For those of us who are Believers -- I think we are building something like a bridge, within our very beings -- so that as people wake up, there will be some who are prepared to guide them from darkness and confusion and terror to the safety of knowing God's eternal Love.

This is my hope, and my prayer :)

carmencita

Well, I very much agree with you. I do believe that I have felt that I will be a kind of buffer for those that will be Dazed and Shocked when they realize the truth. But there are those that I will not be all that kind to. That one that made a fool out of me in front of others at my home and said Franken was being thrown under the bus and would not back down. I am gloating now, not even having talked to them, I know they are in Mortal Shock that others they adore, are asking him to step down. Revenge Is Sweet.

chabon

Revenge Is Sweet.

I have thoughts in this category as well -- there have been so many kinds of pain through all this. Yet sweeter than revenge in my mind is the vision of everyone waking up and seeing ALL the crap for what it is -- so that ALL the divisions based on LIES can finally be dissolved.

carmencita

I dream of that as well. But I dream of just my own group of friends and family just seeing the light. What a day that will be!

Eggs-Vs-Bacon

His connection to the Clintons is indisputable. If Uranium One ever sees an investigation, he'll be on the first roster of witnesses to be deposed.

carmencita

I cannot imagine that Uranium One could be passed up. But we have seen the strangest happenings before.

Eggs-Vs-Bacon

Sorry, not understanding you. What do you mean, Uranium One being passed up?

carmencita

I meant that I don't understand why such an operation would be passed up, but we have seen before that stranger things have happened. Such as ignoring Interrogations and Charges.

gaystapo

The fuck