GreenDell144

Let’s keep this story hot. Don’t let them bury this report!

DeceptionSniper

This is the institutional currency to be promoted and to be in high offices. If a piece of THE RING breaks, then comes the domino effect.

GreenDell144

We just need to keep hammering to get that first real break.

3141592653

Can't wait to see 'em fall

DeceptionSniper

And not just Australian Royals. They are linked all together in a bigger ring.

3141592653

Agreed

kazza64

the church and government orphanages were run by pedophiles and the children taken into homes were molested

Factfinder2

The Church might throw a few of their own under the bus here and there to manage public outrage, but it will not undertake truly meaningful reforms until its tax exemption status is revoked.

3141592653

Yup, and its in their highest and most classified doctrines that abusers will be protected. Infuriating

21yearsofdigging

I just hope that the whistle blowers are safe. Pray for Fiona Barnett

GreenDell144

For real. She’s got a lot of courage.

SavedbyJCfromRSA_MK

I'd like to think we have the get up and go left in America to face our own situation squarely like Australia is doing. I've not seen much evidence of this, but we can turn on a dime faster than most countries.

Thanks Australians, lets get this ball rolling over here Now.

Weightstone

actually what is happening in Australia now, is a knock on from the 2001 blow up of catholic cover-ups from Boston ... that case cracked it open enough so they couldnt put a lid on it. Then the cracks spread, pretty soon it was oh and this city..and this city ..and this state...and this state...and this country. Just how much and how far can be seen in the end of the movie about it (stars keaton, ruffalo) just before the credits. it lists some cities.
and then another full screen of cities.. and another.... and another.

took 15 or so years... but hey. late is better than never?

atimeandplace

U.N is currently, according to a fellow I follow on twitter, going after NZ for it's long-standing refusal to acknowledge state abuse and rape of children in a place I believe is called Lake Alice... amongst many others. We have the all friendly lefties in and they're as arrogant in their treatment of the state abuse victims as the past cunty government.

Watch, there'll be fresh headlines against New Zealand soon. I hope they get tossed to the wolves, the arrogant fucks.

Narcissism

"Most of those suspected of abuse were Catholic priests and religious brothers." Usual Narcissistic professions... https://steemit.com/psychology/@psychopathy/what-makes-a-sadistic-pedophile

Z11Mama

This is good. In the big picture, this is good. So glad Australia has the courage to admit this.

GreenDell144

It’s surprising to see the government of such a huge country investigating itself. There must be a big clamor for justice down under... this is good news. Hopefully it will lead to more.

DerivaUK

And the U.K. commission grinds on anonymously with not an ounce of mainstream coverage. Big up to Oz for even completing theirs. And although this inquiry has revealed so much, the focus on the Catholic Church as the mainstay of the guilty and not a hint of the involvement of politicians or people in power let alone the ubiquitous Satanic Ritual aspects of what we here know is there is glaringly obvious to us who know better. This report, as welcomed as it is, succeeds in hiding what lies beneath, imo.

Factfinder2

Well said.

jizzswizzler

we fucking know.

but its against men so no one ever hears about it and its not illegal and not a crime.

argosciv

from nytimes article: (formatting added by me for emphasis)

The commission, the highest form of investigation in Australia, urged government action on its 189 recommendations, including the establishment of a new National Office for Child Safety and penalties for those who suspect abuse and fail to alert the police, including priests who hear about abuse in confessionals . It also urged Australia’s Roman Catholic leadership to press Rome to end mandatory celibacy for priests.

@alphabravo @LightlyToasted @The_Savant @carmencita @Gothamgirl

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Factfinder2

Pell has been charged, but what sentence will he receive if convicted and how much of that sentence will he actually serve?

Too often the public is satisfied with charges filed and are not even aware that those charges are often dropped later or that abusers often wind up receiving no meaningful punishment even when convicted.

You're right--we must keep the pressure on.

carmencita

Holy Mackerel! How was this accomplished? We must start a movement here to push forward here. Bergoglio will certainly push against this and not get rid of the celibacy of priests. This is for sure, the plan to further the abuse of more children. What a sick plan by the Jesuits. We must do what we can do to get rid of this poison NOW! Upvoat4U!

argosciv

Holy Mackerel! How was this accomplished?

Nothing is set in stone just yet, but, the fact that they recommended penalties for those who do nothing about pedos who use the church as a cover, screams "victory" to me. Or at least, "victory invoming", lol.

This is for sure, the plan to further the abuse of more children.

Wait what? Do you mean voluntary celibacy?

They're pushing for an end to mandatory celibacy, because it can be a contributing factor in 'making a pedophile', which isn't to say that celibacy always leads to sexual abuse - for the record. They're just talking about allowing priests to have a choice in the matter of celibacy - when combined with the idea of penalties for those who commit or ignore sexual abuse(especially of minors), it's fair to say that any priest who chooses to be non-celibate, is subject to the same laws as a celibate priest; any priest who sexually abuses someone or by way of inaction, allows another person to get away with sexual assault, should be held accountable.

carmencita

Thanks for spelling that out, that is what I meant actually. The law of the church as it is is fuzzy and lets priests off the hook so to speak. Bergoglio will surely fight this in the EU and in the US if attempted.

AnAnonandOnandOn

LOL! CELIBATE OBVIOUSLY MEANS HOMOSEXUAL

Catholic priests 4x as likely to die of AIDS

fathersmanifesto.net/aidsdeaths.htm

tholinz

Look at the wording there. This is about undermining essential, fundamental tenants of one of the largest religions on the planet.

I am not denying that evil things have been done. I am pointing out their solution is to destroy everything. You people are so concerned about Satanists but don’t see any harm in destroying a massive segment of Christianity?

finska

If you believe in God you must accept that God made humans sexual beings....why would God want us to go against his own design and become celibate? Especially when we have so much evidence of the crimes this lifestyle can lead to. A kind God does not want children being raped either. It is a no brainer. This would not destroy the Catholic religion it might be the only hope of fixing it.

argosciv

Sorry, but I can't equate "undermining essential, fundamental tenants of one of the largest religions on the planet" to "their solution is to destroy everything"...

The world won't crumble if religions suddenly decide to out the pedos who are using said religions as a cover or as a means to absolve themselves of their guilty conscience.

You people are so concerned about Satanists but don’t see any harm in destroying a massive segment of Christianity?

What even? I'm one of the (seemingly)few people here that doesn't jump on the "OMG IT'S THE SATANISTS!" bandwagon at every opportunity lol. I'm certainly not out to destroy Christianity either... I mean, that's kinda the funny part of all of this, who would think it possible, that someone could defend both Christianity AND Satanism, among others? :O

Mind-boggling, I know...

tholinz

What takes the void left if organized religion is destroyed?

projection

It's heartbreaking, but you've got to know the truth. Thanks for the post.

3141592653

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-42361874 Another article. "A national tragedy has been exposed."

new4now

Acknowledgement is the first step

Going up against the Vatican might be a no win situation

Bless and give strength to the victims that came forward

And may their efforts not be in vain

Will be watching how the Aussie Goverment handles this, and what other groups may come out

Thank you for Posting

3141592653

The Catholic Church has caused generations of pain in my family

new4now

Went to one when I was young

Amazed at all the icons and shiny stuff

Smoke thing he was swinging around made me sneeze repeatively

I had to leave, boy was I glad, the neighbors were in there forever lol

Never cared for that type of Christianity

I grew up Lutheran, things were a lot simplier

finska

And mine.

3141592653

Thanks for sharing

finska

You too. This post sounds promising.

3141592653

Thx for sharing

derram

https://archive.fo/jjSvG :

Australia ‘Failed’ Abused Children for Decades, Royal Commission Finds - The New York Times

'The report released Friday said 62 percent of the survivors who told the commission they were abused in religious institutions were abused in a Catholic facility. '

'Australia created the commission in 2012 to investigate decades of sexual abuse in religious institutions, schools and other establishments — the only country in the world so far to initiate such a sweeping government-led inquiry. '

'More than 4,000 institutions have been implicated in abuse allegations, the commission found. '

'Australian government investigators identified 4,444 victims of abuse and at least 1,880 suspected abusers from 1980 to 2015. '

'Most of those suspected of abuse were Catholic priests and religious brothers. '

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3141592653

Derram, buddy