mrremix

does he mention anything about THE VANGUARD GROUP ?

reasonedandinformed

No idea.

Votescam

That's interesting because TRUMP seems to be involved in "serious human rights abuses"... where he is now trying to separate family members from one another -- Sounds like its actually about creating new opportunities for the sexual abuse of women and children.

Forestdly23

This refers DIRECTLY to Eric Schmidt and Larry Page at Google. Just you wait and see! Why are all of the DNC’s big politicians and financiers turning out to be Pedes, sex abusers, covert homosexuals, felony stock market manipulators and criminal-type people?

Samime

Human rights abuse... pedophila... FGM... looks like Muslims are gonna get the great flinging off the cliff. It encompasses a lot more than people recognize! Let it begin!

SChalice

I am sure the Feds can find a way for each and every one of you to be convicted of said crimes. Why bother having assets anymore?

On the way to a totalitarian state....

13Buddha

Look at all these upvoats.

ESOTERICshade

Look at all these upvoats.

I think there is a fleet of alt up vote accounts voting whenever a thread is posted that correlates to cheering for the Republicans. There is a ton of them about 10 and 11 months old with real low CPP that were suddenly put on stage about a month or so ago.

independenceday

People better behave! Just think of all those crytocurrency gains some of those bad boys and girls are gaining for their dark web activities....ALL their digis could confiscated! They could be put out of business ;O...OMG!

ESOTERICshade

There ain't but one reason I am able to interpret these "its happenings" as "not happenings" and that is because I am interpreting the moves of the Republican Zionists as moves to keep stealing the world blind because that is what the NWO does and our government is the military arm of the NWO.

A lot of people are interpreting our president's moves as taking down the NWO and its actually the opposite. Its bizarre watching people cheer for the NWO that don't realize they are cheering for the NWO. I only see this in voat though. Outside voat this ain't happening that I can see.


Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican and chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, applauded the administration’s decision to sanction the five Russians and Chechens under the law.

“Corruption and human rights abuses have become rampant in Vladimir Putin’s Russia, and the Magnitsky Act serves as important tool in holding Putin and his cronies accountable,” Mr. McCain said. “I hope that these sanctions will provide the Russian people with a small measure of justice that they are denied under the Putin regime, and bolster the efforts of those who carry on the fight for freedom in Russia and around the world.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/21/donald-trump-sanctions-dozens-foreign-individuals-/

The1stLantern

Id gladly live under the NWO, or a King, or worship a floating head in the sky or whatever the fuck have you - so long as it meant the black practice of murdering and raping children were cast off this world forever.

Shillaxe

My thoughts exactly.

13Buddha

Agree @ESOTERICshade that this news is lame in its entirety as pizzagate relevant and related.

Narcissism

Awesome !

lamplight

Wonderful news!!! Expose and arrest these evil enemies of humanity.

The1stLantern

Its bigger than just the signing - President Trump has declared a national emergency

Letter to Congress:

I hereby report that I have issued the enclosed Executive Order (the “order”) declaring a national emergency with respect to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States posed by serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/text-letter-president-congress-united-states-6/

Executive Order:

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption that have their source, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States, such as those committed or directed by persons listed in the Annex to this order, have reached such scope and gravity that they threaten the stability of international political and economic systems https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

List of To-BeTFO'd Companies and Individuals https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20171221.aspx

Votescam

TRUMP is actually one of the greatest abusers of human rights -- as someone about as racist, sexist, and homophobic as one can get ...

And for the damage being done to American citizens with tax cuts for Elites and their corporations at the expense of the poorest and neediest citizens here.

Attacks on Medicare and Social Security are also planned by Paul ...

Social Security costs the US government NOTHING ... In fact, the Social Security Trust Fund PAYS the government to administer the program.

There is NO reason whatsoever for Social Security to be included in the General Budget -- it has been put there to hide the insane costs of our MIC which Trump continues to expand.

There has been a campaign against Social Security being run by the right wing -- out of the Wall Street Journal -- for more than 30-40 years now as a "Ponzi Scheme" which is a lie.

Social Security was NEVER intended to run a Surplus -- it was a "pay as you go" system only raising sufficient funds each year/month to pay citizens who were already retired.

Since then the SURPLUS -- hundreds of billions of dollars every year raised needlessly from citizens -- has be "borrowed" by our government to pay for its wars and tax cuts for the rich.

reasonedandinformed

Excellent. Thank you for this relevant comment. Things are beginning to come together. It is like a huge, complex puzzle where you don't even have the final image to look at. We now have a good picture of the end result and some of the key pieces are falling into place. The EO covers the whole gamut, the way it is written, from trafficking/pedogate to bribery to extortion to money laundering. It is written as if they want all needed counts to charge the Clinton Cabal...but knowing that both sides of the aisle, as well as branches of govt/agencies, are involved.

reasonedandinformed

Think about this in relation to UraniumOne or extortion-control opps: (B) to be a current or former government official, or a person acting for or on behalf of such an official, who is responsible for or complicit in, or has directly or indirectly engaged in:

(1) corruption, including the misappropriation of state assets, the expropriation of private assets for personal gain, corruption related to government contracts or the extraction of natural resources, or bribery; or

bopper

“I met with Eric Schmidt tonight,” John Podesta, the longtime Hillary Clinton adviser, told campaign manager-in-waiting Robby Mook in April 2014, more than a year before Clinton announced her candidacy for president."

reasonedandinformed

ES and HRC were VERY tight.

bopper

Wow. Surprise surprise.

bopper

"Q" has just mentioned this executive order, for those following Q. @reasonedandinformed

https://qcodefag.github.io/

reasonedandinformed

Thanks. Interesting. Q apparently referenced the coming EO on 12/19 from his posting comments today. He also referenced the resignation of Eric Schmidt from Google today...coincidence? Time for some popcorn as the show is getting ready to play. We were all getting really tired of the year-long preview.

bopper

Yes, I was getting tired of waiting. And yes I noticed someone mentioned he referenced the EO on the 19th. Fascinating. Sure appreciate your work here.

datadawg

This feels like a good thing, but a part of me is concerned that this could end up like the patriot act.

'on the surface it is done for safety, but actually just us an excuse to take away citizens rights'

SecondAmendment

Thanks a lot for taking time to post this, @reasonedandinformed . Upvoat. This is so amazing and so awesome. Soros, Clinton, McCain,and everyone else must be absolutely shitting themselves. Seems like a damn good time to buy some stock in the company that makes Depends. This is so huge. Wow.

srayzie

Lol

NoRagrets

Be careful of allowing upon the Government a power you would not allow upon your enemy.

Random101

Derativa potestas non potest esse major primitiva. The power which is derived cannot be greater than that from which it is derived.

thingsudontknow

Wisdom.

Anything like this is bad news to me as it will be used against the little people as usual, as history shows us has happened over and over.

blockwartklaus

i remember that in both - Sessions AND Wray's HJC hearing two different Dems were asking how they stand on asset forfeiture..i knew what to think of this..but now it makes perfect sense to make that EO happen..they basically are that greeedy and stupid..they send some black congresswoman there to ask if their stuff will be seized..she actually tried to hide it and turned it into a totally fuckin normal question about some drug cases in the hood..i hope someone remembers this too or could pull it up..think it's good material for the tube to just edit trumps EO under the voices of these fuckin dummies..it's fuckin sad how hilarious they are in all oft his..i hope all of these sick fucks go down..in here from day one..love all you guys! let's put these fuckers in prison together!greetings from germany!

Cheesebooger

Well then Israel is fucked because of their treatment of Palestinians. Right Trump? RIGHT?

Narcissism

Jews helped put Trump in power.... without their help where would we be right now... 8 years of Hillary?

Cheesebooger

Jews tried to put Hillary in power and had they, where would be right now? Those same jews put Obama in place and Bush before.

Narcissism

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

tholinz

Jews verses the niggers of the Arab world. Do you really want to claim anybody's in the right there?

Cheesebooger

well...I mean...no. I hope both are eradicated.

DonkeyPunched

I'm donkeyDich and I like it when Cheesebooger pees in my mouf!

Cheesebooger

I have to pee....

DonkeyPunched

DinkeyDick like man pee! Hose away.

Cheesebooger

Alt here, Alt there! Alt everywhere!!

ESOTERICshade

find that the prevalence and severity of human rights abuse and corruption that have their source, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States,

Did anybody even read it? He said its OUTSIDE the United States which is a bunch of bullshit.

WhereWeLiveNow

Seems he can go after United States person(s) as well...?

Section 1. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in:

It also has two sections below this; one stating "any foreign person" and another stating "ANY person" (as in, this section includes, any United States person and foreign person?). If it is only for foreign people then why have two sections with two groups of people?

(iii) any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General:

(A) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of:

(1) any activity described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section that is conducted by a foreign person;

(2) any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(3) any entity, including any government entity, that has engaged in, or whose members have engaged in, any of the activities described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section, where the activity is conducted by a foreign person;

(B) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(C) to have attempted to engage in any of the activities described in subsections (iii)(A) or (B) of this section.

The section above seems to make it where he can go after Americans as well?????

Sec. 6. For the purposes of this order:

(a) the term “person” means an individual or entity;

(b) the term “entity” means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and

(c) the term “United States person” means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

I think we are good...as long as your not one these "persons".

Another note: "Current and former government official" and "an entity, including any government entity" are mentioned...?

independenceday

If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone ;)...i just have to figure out how to get more cash into my checking account, before they spend it all.

ESOTERICshade

He could use it to bust our well known important pedos here in the U.S. of course but he can do that anytime he gets ready as well. All the info needed is already known by everybody that is somebody in D.C. because this sort of stuff is woven into their culture. Neither party wants to crack the pedo blackmail ring egg open and fuck up their nest. The pressure to do that will have to come from us redpilling a large enough segment of the public to finally cause a tsunami.

Votescam

Doesn't take much thought to understand that a man who has absolutely no respect for females or their rights -- which include protecting children ... a right accorded to them by Nature's trust in them -- will not in the end have any respect for children, either.

The harm that TRUMP is doing in expanding the poverty among families will without doubt do harm to children. The obvious problems with the government agencies intended to protect children don't happen by accident either ... they are the work of those running government today. What is happening to children in these organizations is intended to happening by those running government, clearly. Otherwise, it wouldn't be happening.

Looking to this lame brain "Pussy Grabber" as a protector of children is about as inane as looking to him to protect females.

reasonedandinformed

Yes. This relates to assets of those who are outside of the US...an important aspect since these trafficking routes are international.

ESOTERICshade

This relates to assets of those who are outside of the US...an important aspect since these trafficking routes are international.

If it had anything to do with our WELL KNOWN pizzagate guilties they could bust them today but they are not doing it because both parties would get fucked in the process. I keep saying over and over that people need to stop cheering for the Zionist republicans and get back to redpilling the public which is what created pizzagate in the first place.

Votescam

The first and most important steps in protecting children are to empower women with equality in our societies -- and I mean all over the world.

The first unraveling's of Elite patriarchy are happening with revelations about sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women which are being reported.

Another prime unraveling of Elite Patriarchy is the many who are walking away from organized patriarchal religion -- male-supremacist religions.

If you want to protect children STOP supporting organized patriarchal religion.

ESOTERICshade

The first and most important steps in protecting children are to empower women with equality in our societies -- and I mean all over the world.

Fuck off divide and conquer shill.

Votescam

Seems that fascists aren't too happy with concepts of "Equality" ....

As Elites have always known and used the information, Inequality and creating impoverished classes are useful ways for them to disunite and conquer nations.

ESOTERICshade

Seems that fascists aren't too happy with concepts of "Equality" ....

Equality and SAME are not the SAME THING which is where you fascist divide conquer shills miss the boat. Thankfully most of humanity is smart enough to realize that men and women are equal but not the same. YOU KNOW, PEINIS AND VAGINA ARE DIFFERENT you transgender pushing prick. Be gone with your family wrecking self

Votescam

Constitutional Equality is the same --

either it exists in the Constitution or it doesn't.

Female Constitutional Equality does NOT exist in our Constitution.

ESOTERICshade

yawn

migratorypatterns

Yeah, baby! This is what I'm talkin' 'bout!!!!

I approve this message.

hypercat

The law was first signed in 2012, and expanded globally in 2016. This information is saying Trump has been given a list of bad guys to enforce sactions on through not letting them in the US and by freezing any US assets they can find, probably not much.

This law is okay, but we already have the no fly list, and other ways to freeze assets of criminals, or just fucking take their shit, iminent domain.

The addendum added was for specific visa sanctions and additional financial sactions, as a money laundering company was guilty and just paid a fine of a few million dollars before transfering assets abroad. It was written to attack the russian corruption in the business world.

pby1000

Probably why Soros transferred all that money to a foundation...

obvious_throwaway1

Is there an Archive of the order? Whitehouse.gov links do not appear to work through my VPN tunnels.

pizzaequalspedo

This is significant

Bluebirdsolitud2

Surreal. What we've been waiting for.

Are_we__sure

This has to do with the Magnitsky Act passed by Congress before Trump became President.

It was nothing to the fantasy football coup you guys are larping about.

Gilderoy

Treasury Dept tweeted this morning:

Trump Administration launches new sanctions regime targeting human rights abusers and corrupt actors around the world, building on the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act:

https://twitter.com/USTreasury/status/943868664369111046

Syndicalism

Im very interested to find out how this EO will be used. We assume its for our cause. (corruption, treason, pizzagate)

ESOTERICshade

Hapsburg Dynasty descendants, the Rothschilds, just got a huge Christmas present. I need to keep posting this until the light bulb starts coming on for some people.


The satanic Rothschild family funded and controls Israel, they despise Jesus. Trump administration condones giving the most holy shrine in Christianity (Jerusalem) to the control of satanic Rothschild funded Israel (satan)

PICTURE ISRAELI SUPREME COURT BUILDING ILLUMANITI PYRAMID:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=israeli+supreme+court+building&t=palemoon&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images


Rothschild Blvd in Israel:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ROTHSCHILD+BLVD&t=palemoon&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images


But ESOTERICshade, that means cheering for the Republicans is cheering for the Rothschlds? Yes. Now we are getting somewhere.


KEEP REDPILLING ON PEDOPHILIA:

JUST SAY NO You are here: >>> https://files.catbox.moe/txm1fu.PNG


Life is a process not an event. Humanity did not become enslaved in a short amount of time and it will not be freed by the Republican Zionists AIPAC buddies.


Pedophilia is the Only Battle Hill that people of ALL colors, ethnicity, and political flavor will fight both parties on. That is why neither party will talk about it.

dozer_

Even with such great news, you've still something to say... Trump could hang himself the pedos in front of the WH that would still be complaining about how zionist he is.

Talking about zionism is actually being too WEAK to use the real word : judaism. That's what evil is all about : still rejecting Christ (aka. Being a jew). You need to make the difference between zionism, which is a racial and religious form of nationalism in the middle east, and jewish globalism. The globalist jews don't care about Israël, I won't even be surprising if they had planned to use it to make a second holocaust in order to legitimize the NWO.

The zionists want Israël. The globalist jews want the world under a NWO, and Jerusalem to be its capital. Israël may be sacrificed.

Netanyahou is a zionist. Soros is a globalist jew. They hate each other.

Trump may be zionist. The puppet masters behind Hollywood, the media, the social networks and the banks are globalist jews. The Rothschilds are. The Clinton Cabal has its roots in jewish globalism, not in zionism. The United Nations, who just condemned the Jerusalem embassy decision, is 100% a jew thing. The ones deeply butthurt about the zionist Trump being elected are actually jews.

Make the fucking difference.

ESOTERICshade

The zionists want Israël. The globalist jews want the world under a NWO, and Jerusalem to be its capital. Israël may be sacrificed.

Netanyahou is a zionist. Soros is a globalist jew. They hate each other.

I think somewhere in there is a ring of truth because I am familiar with that concept. Attempting to unravel all this stuff is tedious. We can't know how accurate the following is without spending tons of time trying to figure it out but I thought you might be interested in it as food for thought.


Caveat: This guy is number V. The guy that wrote this is a Calvinist Zionists and his vision is for Israel to be a nation state FOR NOBODY BUT JEWS AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO GET OUT. So we know he is a bigot.


In number VI the bigots want to have control over the archetype of Jesus so that Jesus can be the Lord of the whole world AS THEY SEE IT OF COURSE. Before its over they will have fabricated that Jesus says for the gentiles to worship "Gods Chosen People" the Zionists themselves.

Messiah will be the world lawgiver, ruling restored Israel and the Gentile nations from his Fourth Hebrew Temple in Jerusalem—from Zion! He is That Prophet, the Hope of Israel, the One yet to restore the Kingdom of David during which his repentant and born-again Nation of Israel will be the “Head of all Nations”


In number III he says the Talmudists are walking arm in arm with the Muslims which sounds like shit because I have read enough of the Talmud to know that they hate everbody and are a bunch of satanic pricks.

http://vaticanassassins.org/2012/05/21/historical-and-biblical-review-six-different-kinds-of-zionists-which-one-are-you/

dozer_

Hitler himself didn't like the jews but was zionist in some way. I guess you are aware of the Haavara agreement : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

I think it's not that bad that the talmudist jews move at some place where they will stay and isolate themself from the rest of the world with nationalist policies. If every jew was a zionist, at least they would not be in Hollywood, or in DC, or representing almost 90% of the big corpo's executive committee in USA and Europe.

About Islam : I strongly believe muslims can get along with talmudists at some level, since they are united in Satan's name. Mohammed denied that Jesus was the messiah, which makes him no better than a jew. The bible was very clear about the Coran being a false and satanic revelation :

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." Gal 1:8

ESOTERICshade

Make the fucking difference.

Its actually more complicated than you realize. If I actually said what I DO KNOW about this situation the butthurt and denial would be epic around here.

dozer_

I would like to hear it, if you don't mind.

ESOTERICshade

I would like to hear it, if you don't mind.


tl:dr Trump has a jesuit background and just commuted the sentence of a child trafficker, meth lab owner, cruelty to animals, and money launderer because the Chabad community and U.S. government officials asked him to. His total sentence if run consecutively would have been over 700 years. Chabad pressures say "he good boy, he dindu nuffin, let him go."

This would not be ok for anybody but Trump, around here...the rest of the internet notices.


Trump Commutes Prison Sentence of Sholom Rubashkin

http://www.newnationalist.net/2017/12/21/trump-commutes-sentence-of-sholom-rubashkin/

http://archive.is/GrmPf

https://youtu.be/0YEyNer_HE4


https://www.reddit.com/r/RomeRules/comments/3g7zgf/donald_trump_secret_jesuit_agent_for/

http://archive.is/eKtRB

https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/12/chabad-trump-family-cult.html

http://archive.is/vq32H


Kohsher meat plant owner and child trafficker also had a meth lab. Some of the children were 15 years old and reports of rape of employees done by managers.

https://www.jta.org/2008/05/13/news-opinion/feds-drugs-made-at-kosher-meat-plant


Wake-up, listen, Leuren Moret, (evil) jesuits world history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLQBcGlQQXI

dozer_

Fair point. But this is very recent, so what would you have said before ?

ESOTERICshade

Fair point. But this is very recent, so what would you have said before ?

I have known about the Jesuit connection to Freemasonry and the vatican for many years, so I would have been suspicious. I will be eternally suspicious of high level politicians with a jesuit education.

shortpenis

jesus was a nazarene.

and using Jewmantria, Kek and Elohim are equal.

but you all know that.

Random101

The whole world hates Israel and our government wants to give Jerusalem, the place where Jesus rose from the dead, to Rothschild funded Israel.

The name of Jerusalem means "teaching of peace". The word Islam is derived from the same root word meaning peace. The word Christ is a Hellenization of a Semitic word meaning annointed, and is primarily associated with Paul in the Bible. The religious associations of annointing don't support the Christian interpretation of the crucifixion: "Touch not mine anointed (messiah), and do my prophets no harm." (Psalms 105:15)

Votescam

A few thins you need to know ... Here are two of them ...

The Vatican created Islam ....
See: The Islamic Connection by Walter Veith https://youtu.be/QCmSBfVXEmAYouTube

The Vatican is the most violent organization ever created and it underpins Elite Patriarchy.
The Vatican's Papal Edicts carried out by their Crusades and Inquisition which filled the soil of Europe with blood ... were brought here to "enslave or kill" native people here whom they labelled as "pagans ... only fit to be fed to dogs." Same for Africans enslaved here.

What was it really all about -- religion? Of course not.
It was about Christianity being used once again to steal land from native people. Christianity invented Capitalism when Feudalism was no longer sufficient to run their Papal States. Capitalism is a system intended to move nations, their wealth and natural resources from the many to the few. And it has done that successfully all over the world. All of this is protected by use of Mafia and legislative criminals to serve Elite Patriarchy.

There is NO crucifixion of Jesus in the Bible.

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful."

Also note that "Christmas" is actually a pagan celebration based in Winter Solstice ...

QUOTE ---

OCCULT MEANINGS

OF WINTER SOLSTICE AND CHRISTMAS

"For three days, December 22nd, 23rd, and

24th, the Sun rises on the exact same latitudinal

(declinations) degree. This is the only time in

the year that the sun actually stops its

movement northward or Southward in our sky.

On the morning of December 25th, the Sun

moves one degree northward beginning its

annual journey back to us in the Northern

Hemisphere, ultimately bringing our spring.

Anything steadily moving all year long that

suddenly stops moving for three days was

considered to have died. Therefore, God's Sun

who was dead for three days, moves one degree

northward on December 25th and is

symbolically born again!"

www.dictionary.com/browse/occult

Occult definition, of or relating to magic, astrology, or any system claiming use or knowledge of secret or supernatural powers or agencies. See more. UNQUOTE

Random101

A few things you need to know ...

Really? What do you think the threat is?

From your video: "Pilgrimage is a symbol of the great pagan religions of the past"

A major category of Jewish holidays is the pilgrimage festival. Described in the Hebrew Bible as celebrating both agricultural festivals and historical events in the history of the Jewish people, these three holidays were set aside in biblical times for people to travel to the ancient Temple in Jerusalem. These three holidays are Passover, Shavuot, and Sukkot.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/pilgrimage-festivals/

Votescam

Rand -

What do I think the threat of religious fables are which brainwash children and enslave minds to organized patriarchal religions?

Perhaps I gave you the wrong link -- but it should have been Walter Veith on the subject of the Vatican creating Islam. You'll find it at YouTube. I'll also follow and re-post the correct link.

it is, of course, important to know that the Vatican created the Islamic faith and continues to use it in its own interests.

It's also important for everyone here looking at the involvement of the Vatican/RCC in sexual abuse of children to understand the violence of the Vatican and historically its involvement with sexual abuse of children. The Old Testament was written to cement patriarchy.

Random101

it is, of course, important to know that the Vatican created the Islamic faith and continues to use it in its own interests.

No, it is important to consider opposing arguments and investigate the facts impartially rather than cherry pick them like your video did in support of your bizarre theory.

The Old Testament was written to cement patriarchy.

No, it was written to describe mankind's encounter with deity.

Votescam

Since I gave you the wrong link.... you were not looking at the video on RCC creating Islam.

I have no idea what the video was that you looked at ... so your criticism is irrelevant.

If you wish now to look at the intended video -- fine. I've given you a new link to it.

NO -- it was written to cement patriarchy ... and the New Testament's rebel is Jesus and he is rebelling against what was done in the Old Testament to downgrade females. There was an immense change brought about by the Old Testament for women ... rather than the case in what was once matriarch-centered societies, women and children were down-graded and replaced by male-supremacy.

Hebrew is, after all, just another male-supremacist religion.

In the New Testament, Mary's family line history was given to Joseph .... because Mary's family line was the more important.

And what do you think "deity" is....?

Random101

I have no idea what the video was that you looked at

You have no idea what the video was when you posted a link to it?

Votescam

WHAT does it take for you to understand that I gave you the WRONG LINK?

It happened because Veith is involved in a series of videos ...

Now .. either watch the LINK to the correct video, or not ...

Depends on whether you want to know IF RCC created Islam...

That's up to you.

Happy Holiday --

Random101

Depends on whether you want to know IF RCC created Islam...

If videos like that are your source of information then I wouldn't waste my time. There's no reason for the RCC to create Islam, your videos are probably just cover for the usual deranged atheism that pretends to be an objective study of religion.

Votescam

Veith has a series of 36 videos -- I support the video which connects you to the story about the Vatican creating Islamic religion.

Have no idea what the video was that you watched so I don't support it.

Since all "religion" is a matter of faith and one's personal opinion, so is atheism. They are the same thing.

Organized patriarchal religions are a "cover" for white-male-supremacy vouched for by a fake "god."

Stop wasting my time, either watch the video or don't --

Random101

I support the video which connects you to the story about the Vatican creating Islamic religion.

What do you think the essential point of the video is?

Have no idea what the video was that you watched so I don't support it.

Well, you could just look at the link that you posted to find out.

Since all "religion" is a matter of faith and one's personal opinion, so is atheism. They are the same thing.

That's irrelevant to the issue of whether or not the RCC created Islam.

Organized patriarchal religions are a "cover" for white-male-supremacy vouched for by a fake "god."

That's absurd.

Thou shalt not wrest judgment; thou shalt not respect persons, neither take a gift: for a gift doth blind the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous. Deu 16:19

Votescam

No one has done more violence in this world than the Vatican -- and also by use of the Islamic religion.

The Papal Edicts to "enslave or kill" Africans here and the native people were brought here to continue the Crusades and the Inquisition which was done in new spilling of blood here.

112 million Native people they labelled "pagans ... only fit to be fed to dogs."

Our Founders saved the system of slavery for Elites/wealthy which guaranteed the Civil War which further benefitted Elites by splitting the nation into two camps of hatred which continue to echo today.

Same for the killing of "pagans" here which was not righteousness ... but simple theft of their lands and Genocide.

Random101

No one has done more violence in this world than the Vatican

I seriously suggest you read up on the Bolshevik revolution.

and also by use of the Islamic religion.

That's absurd, Islam contradicts the central doctrine of vicarious sacrifice of Pauline Christianity.

ESOTERICshade

I use "jesus rose from the dead" because that is how people understand it. Getting into a discussion with people about what it might really mean is not something I am willing to do :)

Votescam

ESO --

It's really all about astronomy -- the 12 apostles -- originally 13 represent what was originally 13 months ... and based on the female body.

Here's the actual meaning of Winter Solstice and the Sun turned into a religious fable ....

QUOTE --

OCCULT MEANINGS

OF WINTER SOLSTICE AND CHRISTMAS

"For three days, December 22nd, 23rd, and

24th, the Sun rises on the exact same latitudinal

(declinations) degree. This is the only time in

the year that the sun actually stops its

movement northward or Southward in our sky.

On the morning of December 25th, the Sun

moves one degree northward beginning its

annual journey back to us in the Northern

Hemisphere, ultimately bringing our spring.

Anything steadily moving all year long that

suddenly stops moving for three days was

considered to have died. Therefore, God's Sun

who was dead for three days, moves one degree

northward on December 25th and is

symbolically born again!"

www.dictionary.com/browse/occult

Occult definition, of or relating to magic, astrology, or any system claiming use or knowledge of secret or supernatural powers or agencies. See more.

ESOTERICshade

It's really all about astronomy -- the 12 apostles -- originally 13 represent what was originally 13 months ... and based on the female body.

Here's the actual meaning of Winter Solstice and the Sun turned into a religious fable ....

Fuck off trying to teach me about occult history. I already know all this stuff. Go away divide and conquer shill.

Votescam

ESO --

If you "already know all this stuff" -- i.e., that religious fables are based on actual natural and astronomical positions and changes, such as Winter Solstice which brings us "the return of the light" every winter ...

sure does seems that Nature and Natural events make you really angry when people see how they've been used to create religious "myths."

ESOTERICshade

If you "already know all this stuff" -- i.e., that religious fables are based on actual natural and astronomical positions and changes, such as Winter Solstice which brings us "the return of the light" every winter ...

No shit, yawn....

Votescam

That wasn't a yawn you posted -- I was anger. Why would Winter Solstice as the basis of male-supremacist religious lore make you so angry?

Random101

Pity, it goes to the root of the issue IMO.

YogSoggoth

I agree to some point, but Trump did fulfill his campaign promise. If the rest of the world is not having it. He can turn around and say "I tried." I seriously doubt that this Yinon plan was ever going to work given the size of a country that has no right to exist. Israel is the only country with no laws against slavery.

DonKeydich

Omg could you be more of a vain faggot? The cool voice of reason, spotting shills, euphemizing about Zionists LMAO all ethnicities will fight pedophilia and ZOG right? Even ETHNIC JEWS including total atheists who produce all the pedofriendly media and films referencing pizza itself?

What a fucking CLOWN. Quit trying to ride my coattails you faggot. AIPAC YOU GUYS, JERUSALEM BELONGS TO JEEBUS YOU GUYS, HE WILL RETURN TO FINALLY CONVERT OUR JEWISH BRETHREN XDDDDD

DonkeyPunched

I'm donkyDich and i like butthole!

reasonedandinformed

I agree with you on the Tavistock dual-party manipulation, but I do not agree w/regard to Trump and Zionism. There has already been too much evidence that Trump is going after the pedos and rolling them up. This is WHY he is hated by both parties. I agree that both sides (DEM + GOP) have heavy corruption, so #DrainTheSwamp brings them together in fear that Trump wants to actually go after them. We will see who is right on this, but I can say 100% that I agree with you that we need to bring both sides together in going after the pedo evil that affects both sides of the aisle.

ESOTERICshade

This is WHY he is hated by both parties.

It is one political party pretending to be two. Nothing new. I understand the hope but there is no evidence that trump is busting up a pedo ring, but there is plenty of evidence that his ego is whacking his political opponents and threatening worse.

IVIVI

There is evidence he is against the NWO agenda. He blocked paris agreement and tpp both set up for NWO by Obama. Its common knowledge these agreements were set up to bring about the NWO agenda and Hillary was suppose to win the election and move forward with the NWO agreements. Trump got in and blocked the NWO agreements. Blocking the NWO movement is enough evidence for me. Willing to hold judgement and see how it plays out. So far he's doing good.

Blacksmith21

It is a new political party.

ESOTERICshade

It is a new political party.

Same people. Same networks. Nothing new about it except that Trump stacked his deck slap full of Goldman Sachs bankers and similar zionist trash. I tried to be hopeful early on but the Hopium wore off.

I'm glad we got Trump though for the simple fact that we got rid of the SJW's and the Marxist Communism. We traded it for National Socialism. As far as Isms go I guess its better than communism because it comes without SJWs. An ISM is an ISM none the less.

Shillaxe

National Socialism is lame, Utopian style equality for me please.

Blacksmith21

National Socialism = Nazism. We aren't under an totalitarian or authoritarian government. What are you talking about - you can't have it both ways.

You can keep taking the soft shoe approach with the Zionist shit, but bottom line is some of his family is Jewish. Are you part of the problem or part of the solution? Trump is the solution. Always has been.

ESOTERICshade

This is how bad the Trump timeline screwed up people's perspectives. This post has 45 up votes already ONLY because it has a Democrat's name it.

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2301819


The post about Twitter leaving up Child Porn for a week should have equally as many.

https://m.hooktube.com/watch?v=Yh4oRwnbodA


Zionism is a curse on humanity and people have lost sight of that fact since this last presidential election. The Rothschild's are affiliated with Zionism. Our Republican party is too. No amount of Hopium smoking can change this fact and it takes a hell of a lot of denial not to see it.

ESOTERICshade

We have no more freedom than the day Trump came into office. As a matter of fact by the time they get through screwing with net neutrality stuff and the internet becomes regulated like a telecommunications company people will need a unique ID like an internet telephone number. The word "anon" will dry up like a rain drop in the sunshine.

The government just announced that it is getting back into the civil forfeiture business and will again join the horde of law enforcement thieves riding the highways taking cash and valuables from people without charging them for a crime.

Nobody is telling the DEA to get off the backs of marijuana industry so that CBD oil can be turned loose to help people. Instead they are still coddling the pharma industry.

Nobody has dared mention the pedophilia problem in our government.

The government is fast tracking the NSA spying powers through it reapproval process so they can continue to spy on us.

Corporations were just given a windfall tax break.

Are you part of the problem or part of the solution?

I could keep going with the list but naaahhhh. The problem with pizzagate right now is that Trump put a wrinkle in the timeline and caused people to trust political parties. Not trusting political parties is what allowed pizzagate to grow in the first place. Trusting political parties is a sure fire recipe to get the movement co opted in the end.

The bizarre thing about it is that we don't have to take that risk of being co opted because if our spineless political parties intend to bust up a pedo ring they will do it, or not, and we don't have to take the risk of being co opted. In the meantime we just need to quit cheering for Zionists and the Zionists IS NOT SHIT ITS CANCER.

Blacksmith21

You do some good research my friend, but you still sound like a Bernie Bro.

We've always been under surveillance. Long before you were born Echelon existed. The "ATT Building" has existed in NYC for a long time for a reason. Think of it as "Old Bluffdale".

We are in sympatico on cannabis laws. It isn't a DOJ priority. Sessions realizes that is a lighting rod and not worth the fight. Much bigger fish to fry.

Understand that NSA is .MIL not .GOV. They were corrupted at the top, but had enough patriotic backstop to become part of the solution. NSA wouldn't play ball so CIA targeted/hired/stole/hacked all the sources and methods as best as they could from the NSA. They built their own NSA. The DS strong armed the NSA politically to give them the raw feeds under DOJ writs.

NSA has never been the bad guy. Not a "fan boy" just citing history.

Be patient. The breadth and depth of corruption, DS, pedogate, etc. is mind boggling. Remember 30%. What would happen if 30% of the people you knew/know are pedos? How would you take them down? Not all at once.

ESOTERICshade

You do some good research my friend, but you still sound like a Bernie Bro.

naaahhhh, not one of those either :)

rarepeeks

There has already been too much evidence that Trump is going after the pedos and rolling them up.

I understand your thought process but I need more proof. For me Trump remains nothing more than the leader of the Neocon Zionists until he starts speaking about pedophilia in the government.

IVIVI

I understand the need for proof. Hes already blocking the NWO agenda by pulling out of paris agreement and tpp. This pedo ring is a delicate situation. He can't just open his big mouth and start screaming pedophilia in government. Thats stupid. Trump needs to grow the economy and simultaneously bring down the pedo ring. If its not done correctly the economy could crash or worse. Crashing the economy just to scream pedophilia in Government is immature. Trump is protecting the economy and ultimately, the American people.

Shillaxe

T Man is here, to try and usher in Fascism , he's not smart enough to be running anything but cheesy casinos.

Shizy

Yawn

Shillaxe

Point being he isn't running anything, he owes Nat Roth... everything.

reasonedandinformed

I am with you in the sense that there has not been 100% proof, but the evidence continues to build in the right direction. He has had to spend his first year fighting both sides of the establishment and the #RussiaCollusionLie, but it looks like he has been able to, in parallel, build the case for the extreme level of treason he has faced internally while quietly gaining all the unsealed indictments (4000+ last I looked). I have seen enough verification from Q Anon (independently) that I think he is on the same team, but it is an extremely hard/long battle that takes time. The recent trafficking shutdown post by Q Anon was encouraging. See: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2298748

rarepeeks

I have seen enough verification from Q Anon (independently) that I think he is on the same team, but it is an extremely hard/long battle that takes time. The recent trafficking shutdown post by Q Anon was encouraging. See: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2298748

Saw that. So far that person has made a lot of claims and none of it can be proven to be true. Not a fan.

reasonedandinformed

"Trust Sessions" (12/19) and this: https://www.dailywire.com/news/24940/breaking-jeff-sessions-orders-new-look-uranium-one-ryan-saavedra

Q Anon pointed to need to roll things out in stages...first the sexual perversions/assaults (in HollyWood + DC), then onto the more disturbing pedo issues, which are slowly starting to break in PedoWood.

2impendingdoom

issues of Jerusalem are confusing, I think ( I hope) there is more to what is going on here than meets the eye. I hope it is a case of Trump setting a trap. I am so exasperated by the lack of arrests of big fish so I hear you loud and clear.

Gilderoy

Mega dittos, @2impendingdoom . Couldn't agree with you more.

2impendingdoom

Merry Christmas, Gilderoy, I hope you get your whole wish-list in a timely manner.

(that goes to all of you dedicated pizzagaters)

Gilderoy

Merry Christmas to you, too. It's been quite a year.

Shillaxe

Simply put, Trump does what Israel tells him to do.

ESOTERICshade

issues of Jerusalem are confusing, I think ( I hope) there is more to what is going on here than meets the eye. I hope it is a case of Trump setting a trap. I am so exasperated by the lack of arrests of big fish so I hear you loud and clear.

Thanx. The Trump phenom caused a lot of people to trust the Republicans and i'm trying to undo the damage. The quickest route back to the redpill is the Israel/Rothschild/Republican connection. Its short and to the point.

21yearsofdigging

True. I get it. Smoke and mirrors do not distract us from the FACT that yeah, Trump, as much as we wanted to believe in him, he has been I believe, handcuffed by the Zionists. He also doesn't want Wall Street to crash under his watch and let's be serious, The Rothschilds can crash ANY stock market anywhere if they choose to. Many of us are myopic and our concern is stopping the child trafficking and the pedophiles including those Elites(God I hate that word) involved in ritual abuse. Some more token arrests just won't cut it

Neinlife

this satanic and jesus shit is garbage. there are enough real crimes and horrible shit going on that inserting your fucking fan fiction into it is pointless.

you are not a paladin, they are not undead

ESOTERICshade

this satanic and jesus shit is garbage.

Oh really? Who the fuck do you think is committing them? Both Republicans and Democrats. Q is a clueless larper who is cheering for Zionists and so are you.


I need to save this comment and keep posting it until the lightbulb starts coming on for some people. Initial pizzagaters knew this and fought both parties. New pizzagaters are confused.


Hapsburg Dynasty descendants, the Rothschilds, just got a huge Christmas present, which was Trump's endorsement for Jerusalem to become Israel's capitol city. I need to keep posting this until the light bulb starts coming on for some people.


The satanic Rothschild family funded and controls Israel, they despise Jesus. Trump administration condones giving the most holy shrine in Christianity (Jerusalem) to the control of satanic Rothschild funded Israel (satan)

PICTURE ISRAELI SUPREME COURT BUILDING ILLUMANITI PYRAMID:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=israeli+supreme+court+building&t=palemoon&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images


Rothschild Blvd in Israel:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ROTHSCHILD+BLVD&t=palemoon&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images


But ESOTERICshade, that means cheering for the Republicans is cheering for the Rothschlds? Yes. Now we are getting somewhere.


KEEP REDPILLING ON PEDOPHILIA:

JUST SAY NO You are here: >>> https://files.catbox.moe/txm1fu.PNG


Listen to Zionist shill Haley try to make victims out of the U.S. and Israel because vote a few minutes ago was 128-9 against the U.S. decision. 128 countries told Israel and the U.S. to go fuck itself. The whole world hates Israel and our government wants to give Jerusalem, the place where Jesus rose from the dead, to Rothschild funded Israel.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=981PGehcrjM


And Haley is telling you that YOU AGREE with this. Bullshit. I do not. "Christian Zionism" is a mental illness. The goal is to use Jerusalem as leverage to eventually HAVE YOU WORSHIP "God's Chosen People" the Zionists.


Life is a process not an event. Humanity did not become enslaved in a short amount of time and it will not be freed by the Republican Zionists AIPAC buddies.


Pedophilia is the Only Battle Hill that people of ALL colors, ethnicity, and political flavor will fight both parties on. That is why neither party will talk about it.

Neinlife

you dont seem to know how crazy you sound.

ESOTERICshade

you dont seem to know how crazy you sound.

I tend to sound that way to people that do not have pattern spotting abilities. Its called "association" and cognitive dissonance busting. Keep practicing. You don't coddle the Rothschild's by giving them Jerusalem and fight them at the same time. Its also known as common sense.

Neinlife

are you saying we should steal the declaration of independence because there is a map to the treasure of Dread Pirate Kikebeard on it

ESOTERICshade

are you saying we should steal the declaration of independence because there is a map to the treasure of Dread Pirate Kikebeard on it

naaahh, that map was engraved into the back of Geronimo's skull which is why the Skull and Bones fraternity from Yale dug up Geronimo's grave and stole his head.

bopper

". . . the Jews in all their dispersions shall cast away their old infidelity, and shall have their hearts wonderfully changed, and abhor themselves for their past unbelief . . .

They shall flow together to the blessed Jesus, penitently, humbly, and joyfully owning him as their glorious King and only Savior, and shall with all their hearts, as one heart and voice, declare his praised unto other nations.. Nothing is more certainly foretold than this national conversion of the Jews in Rom 11.

Besides the prophecies of the calling of the Jews, we have a remarkable providential seal of the fulfillment of this great event, by a kind of continual miracle, viz. their being preserved a distinct nation...the world affords nothing else like it. There is undoubtedly a remarkable hand of providence in it.

When they shall be called, that ancient people, who alone were so long God's people for so long a time, shall be his people again, never to be rejected more. They shall be gathered together into one fold, together with the Gentiles..." *The Works of Jonathan Edwards, Vol 1 Banner of Truth Trust, 1976, pg 607.

This is what's behind Trump's Jerusalem move (whether Trump knows it or not), and ancient and not so ancient quotes like this are too numerous to mention, one has to decline the Khazar theory to embrace these prophecies, made by the godliest and most brilliant men to walk the earth since the time of the apostles.

A forum like this won't allow further meaningful discussion but I feel compelled to at least give it some mention. They are presently despised and cursed for their rejection and continual hardhearted contempt of Christ but what better testament to the boundless forgiveness that is with God to make such Christ despisers and miserable and unhappy people trophies of eternal grace.

Then I need to say that this does not, as Christian Zionists falsely teach, viz a viz Scofield and other false doctrines, mean that (they will not) the Jews will restore the temple and reinstate animal sacrifices and so on which would be to blaspheme Christ who was the "anti-type" of these rituals, and this is why I say that the Roman Catholic celebration of the Eucharist is blasphemy in that it is a continual sacrifice of the "once for all time" historical sacrifice of Christ "in the fullness of time, God sent his Son, etc."

Apologies for the length of this, as I said, it is a complex subject.

ESOTERICshade

Apologies for the length of this, as I said, it is a complex subject.

I appreciate your faith brother but my opinion is that the Talmudist filth baby raping cult has to be wiped off the face of the earth and that goes for its support network.


the Jews in all their dispersions shall cast away their old infidelity, and shall have their hearts wonderfully changed, and abhor themselves for their past unbelief . . .

Not in a million years. The Jews are too far gone.


They shall flow together to the blessed Jesus, penitently, humbly, and joyfully owning him

This is the reality the Zionists are looking for. They want to OWN the archetype of Jesus and use it to further enslave humanity with the mental illness of "Christian Zionism" which is a total blasphemy to Christianity.


one has to decline the Khazar theory

Its not a theory. That is why they look like white people instead of semites. They are not semites. The Palestenians they are committing genocide against are semites. As usual its the Luciferian reversal trick. Larping as semites in broad daylight and too many people are buying it. One of the most famous and respected authors Arthur Koestler wrote a book named "The Thirteenth Tribe" in which he traced the lineage of today's Jews and like many other researchers he found to be from the Caspian and Black Sea area. This is not even in dispute anymore, its well known.


made by the godliest and most brilliant men to walk the earth since the time of the apostles.

The Jews of 2000 years ago are long gone and what is left is mostly Khazar Luciferians.

Watch this two minute video on mainstream Israeli TV to see how they feel about Jesus. They DESPISE Jesus and that ain't gonna change. Israel is full of Talmudists and they literally say that "jesus is in hell boiling in hot excrement." These people are the FILTH that will take control of Jerusalem. They will have people worshipping "God's Chosen People" within a couple of generations and that is their plan.

As Seen On Israeli TV, Jews make fun of Jesus being Crucified

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRyVzVNY1fI

ArtificalDuality

If I could, a million upvotes.

bopper

Yeah I'm well aware of how they feel about Christ, I thought I said as much. You're missing my point. In fact, that was a big part of my point. That they would be redeemed. Because they are indeed the ancient Hebrews.

I'll drop the Khazar stuff, your source is not the last word on it as I'm sure you know. We'll have to agree to disagree.

ESOTERICshade

We'll have to agree to disagree.

Of course. I hope you are right and i'm wrong because it would be the best outcome :)

bopper

Good attitude, appreciate that :)

lordoftheonionrings

Of the people listed in the annex this one jumped out to me:

Mukhtar Hamid Shah

Shah is a Pakistani surgeon specializing in kidney transplants who Pakistani police believe to be involved in kidnapping, wrongful confinement, and the removal of and trafficking in human organs. As an owner of the Kidney Centre in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, Shah was involved in the kidnapping and detention of, and removal of kidneys from, Pakistani laborers. Shah was arrested by Pakistani authorities in connection with an October 2016 incident in which 24 individuals from Punjab were found to be held against their will. Impoverished and illiterate Pakistanis from the countryside were reportedly lured to Rawalpindi with the promise of a job, and imprisoned for weeks. Doctors from the Kidney Centre were allegedly planning to steal their kidneys in order to sell them for a large profit. Police state that one of the accused arrested in connection with the events estimated that more than 400 people were imprisoned in the apartment at various times.

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm0243

Factfinder2

Extremely significant. Thanks for pointing this out.

Primus_Pilus

This is aimed right at the Rothschilds, Sassoons and the Rockefellers.

* The Trump Administration quietly issued an Executive Order (EO) last Thursday which allows for the freezing of US-housed assets belonging to foreign individuals or entities deemed "serious human rights abusers," along with government officials and executives of foreign corporations (current or former) found to have engaged in corruption - which includes the misappropriation of state assets, the expropriation of private assets for personal gain, and corruption related to government contracts or the extraction of natural resources.

Furthermore, anyone in the United States who aids or participates in said corruption or human rights abuses by foreign parties is subject to frozen assets - along with any U.S. corporation who employs foreigners deemed to have engaged in corruption on behalf of the company.*

Oh_Well_ian

YES !!

I have been saying for months this is what is behind Sessions' refusal to roll back asset seizure laws and now I have been proven CORRECT.

racmo

Yay for you! Seriously !!!! smartee pants

jealoushe

Holy shit...this is good.

Meatus2Beatus

Good stuff